Talk:Tragedy of the commons

Latest comment: 1 month ago by JustAnotherCatLover... in topic "Information entropy" links to the wrong thing?

Label, and the thing it denotes.

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While the edit by user Novern Linguae means to get to the heart of the matter at once, which is usually desirable, in this case it really is quite important not to telescope two quite different entities. The Tragedy of the Commons is not, and never was, a concept: it is just one modern label (arguably, even a glib label) for a concept (or, more accurately) a range of concepts, imperfectly defined, that have been debated since Aristotle. The lead section got into a mess in the past -- see above, Lead is a tragedy in itself -- for failure to stress this philosophical distinction. Ttocserp 11:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think before I made my edit, the Google Knowledge Panel was saying The tragedy of the commons is a metaphoric label for a concept that is widely discussed in economics, ecology and other sciences, without saying what the concept is. That's one of my motivations for the change. I'm not particularly invested in that edit though. Up to y'all. –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

NPOV

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This article is an uncritical presentation of a viewpoint regarded by most economists as having been refuted decades ago. The criticism section is buried so far down that no one will see it, and the Ostrom's who demolished Hardin, are quoted as if they endorse him. I've started trying to get some kind of balance JQ (talk) 18:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wrong Paul erlich in paragraph 5

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Not sure how to edit, but the main info points to the wrong Paul erlich. Should be https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._Ehrlich 2603:8080:7400:E6C:A532:D2D5:6442:B8B8 (talk) 20:15, 21 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done, on the balance of probabilities based on their respective academic fields. Without access to Nature Sustainability, I can't verify. Thank you for pointing it out. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 21:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
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In the resources section of the application section there is this sentence "Therefore, when talking about resources running out in a digital environment, it could be more useful to think in terms of the access to the digital environment being restricted in some way; this is called information entropy." information entropy is linked to the article about the concept of entropy in information theory, described as "the average level of uncertainty or information associated with the variable's potential states or possible outcomes" (our article). I may just not be knowledgeable enough, (I would say I have a casual understanding of entropy in information theory) but I do not see how these are the same thing. Either they're not the same thing, and that link should be removed, they are the same thing, but some information should be added here to make that connection clearer, or I'm kinda stupid. I don't really feel qualified to make the call JustAnotherCatLover... (talk) 04:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply