Talk:Tupi people
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merger
editshould be merged with Tupi languages. — ishwar (SPEAK) 11:59, 2005 May 20 (UTC)
There is a Tupi language family which consists of approximately 70 languages, one of which is Tupi. The family and the individual language should have separate articles, I think. To be consistent with other articles, they should be located at Tupi languages and Tupi language, respectively. --Tabor 19:13, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
For now I removed the language stub, since this article is about the ethnic group. Also, I removed the references to Paraguay, since 95% of its people are actually Guarani-Spanish (according to the wpedia article). Also, I don't think the Tupi (as an ethnic group) are really majority in North/Northeast/Center-West Brazil, so I changed that affirmation to something more conservative. We need actual statistics. -- leoboiko 14:38, 2005 August 10 (UTC)
I have two observations:
First, "In southeastern Brazil they are an important presence in the genetic pool" is a scientific affirmation and should be follow by a reference to a scientific study about it.
Second, "while constituting a considerable portion of the lower classes in the North, Northeast, and Center-West." sounds like they still been consider Tupi people inside the Brazilian society, while the great majority are no longer consider Tupi and are blended with European decedents.
I suggest the sentence be change to "In Brazil, the majority of Tupi decedents are in some degree blended with European decedents (called caboclo), are part of the Brazilian society and no longer consider Tupi".--ClaudioMB 05:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Allright I have greatly expanded the article with correct information. And we need proves to say they first inhabited the Amazon then the coast. They're usually related to the coast. --El Chemaniaco 01:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
cannibalism
editWeren't they thought to have practiced cannibalism?
They aren't thought, they really did. It's there now.--El Chemaniaco 01:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
This cannibalism section is misleading. Tupi from the Amazon... is there evidence of cannibalistic practice? I can't find it. The Hans Staden refers to Tupinambá which would be linked to the Tupí-Guaraní that had migrated out of the Amazon river basin to the region (Araruam, Rio de Janeiro or São Paulo). It is a wide "brush-stroke" to say all Tupi practiced cannibalism. Especially since the article states ... tribes had independence, yet shared a language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.241.209 (talk) 01:08, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Tupinambá
editI just changed "Tupinambá redirects here" to "Tupinamba redirects here," because Tupinambá doesn't -- someone has created a one-sentence Tupinambá article that should probably be merged/deleted. Languagehat (talk) 19:57, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- Merged. In case the pix or refs are useful, here's the text. — kwami (talk) 05:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Unmerged. The Tupinambá were merely one of the several Tupi tribes, not the whole ethnic group. "Tupinambá" is by no means synonim with Tupi. Ninguém (talk) 11:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
The Tupinambá were one of the various Tupi ethnic groups that inhabited present-day Brazil before the conquest of the region by Portuguese colonial settlers. Their language survives today in the form of Nheengatu.
The usages and habits of the Tupinambás were abundantly described in the Cosmographie universelle (1572) of André Thevet, and in Histoire d'un voyage faict en la terre du Brésil (1578), by Jean de Léry. They inspired the work of Montaigne Des Cannibales (Essais, Book 1, Chap.31), and they influenced the creation of the myth of the "noble savage" during the Enlightenment.
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"Brazilian ball" for Henry II of France in Rouen, 1 October 1550. 300 naked men were employed to illustrate life in Brazil and a battle between the Tupinambá allies of the French, and the Tabajara Indians.
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"Salutations larmoyantes" ("Tearful salutations") describing the Tupinambás, in Histoire d'un voyage faict en la terre du Brésil (1578), Jean de Léry, 1580 edition.
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A Tupinambá named "Louis Henri" who visited Louis XIII in Paris in 1613, in Claude d'Abbeville, Histoire de la mission.
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Catarina Paraguaçu, wife of Portuguese sailor Diogo Álvares Correia, in a 1871 painting
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Léry, Jean , and Janet Whatley. History of a Voyage to the Land of Brazil, Otherwise Called America. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1990. Print.
Wiki Education assignment: Modern Brazil
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 August 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): FinnMal (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Jimmycarp.
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To be Added
editAdding more information to the "European colonization" section about the beginning of European colonization and the interactions between Portuguese colonists and the Tupi people. I'll also add more to the "history" section.
Here are some of the sources I plan on citing:
https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/AMNKRR285775359/BPHC?u=ohlnk162&sid=bookmark-BPHC&xid=e1014492&pg=7
https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/BHUIDR695299930/BPHC?u=ohlnk162&sid=bookmark-BPHC&xid=f2bc80c9&pg=6
https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/AXEDEK959562971/BPHC?u=ohlnk162&sid=bookmark-BPHC&xid=fb121ff8&pg=11