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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 22:36, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

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Olive Temple

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Olive Temple
Olive Temple

Created by Ficaia (talk). Self-nominated at 04:49, 21 November 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - For hook citation, I suggest adding another sentence to the lead, something like "Her book" (give title) "recounts her journey and records her observations about Africa." followed by a citation.
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Ficaia:, Nice article! I am fascinated by these intrepid women travellers! This just needs a little cleanup work for the DYK (see notes above). The lead could also include a second paragraph to quickly summarize her later life. I have added one of the images from the article to the hook. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:04, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

@Mary Mark Ockerbloom: I've replaced "lover" with "fiance" and removed "treacherously". As for the copyvio concerns, the paragraph in question is taken from this public domain source, and is attributed. π•±π–Žπ–ˆπ–†π–Žπ–† (talk) 15:23, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Thanks @Ficaia:. You're right that the source is PD in the USA, because it was published in 1910. However, as an anonymous work first published in London I believe it may still be under copyright in the UK, which gives anonymous works 120 years of copyright after publication. If appropriate licensing is PD-US-expired-abroad, you will still need to rephrase that paragraph. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:58, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Great job, @Ficaia: issues have been resolved and this is ready to go. MaryMO (AR) (talk) 13:20, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
@Ficaia and Mary Mark Ockerbloom: could Nedrutland's {{dubious}} tag be resolved before promotion? theleekycauldron (talk β€’ contribs) (she/her) 01:18, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
@Theleekycauldron: I've removed the tag. The ODNB says she wrote a book based on her observations, so I don't see how the claim is at all dubious. π•±π–Žπ–ˆπ–†π–Žπ–† (talk) 04:22, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
All right. We'll see if Nedrutland turns up to explain further; if that doesn't happen in a few days, ping me back and I'll re-add the tick. theleekycauldron (talk β€’ contribs) (she/her) 04:24, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
Also, I've replaced "experiences in the French Sudan" with just "observations". Other sources cited in the body (probably less reliable) do say that she travelled through parts of the French Sudan, but perhaps that doesn't need to go in the lead. π•±π–Žπ–ˆπ–†π–Žπ–† (talk) 04:26, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
Nedrutland doesn't seem to object to removing the tag, so I'll retick. theleekycauldron (talk β€’ contribs) (she/her) 18:55, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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