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hyperemesis gravidarum

Hi Oshwah, Why did you remove my edits to the Hyperemesis Gravidarum wiki page. The information you changed it back to is outdated. I cited the new information.2605:E000:8552:BC00:8840:F10A:6058:26AC (talk) 23:56, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) You only have one edit under this IP address. Did you use another account? Thegooduser Let's Chat 01:48, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions and concerns. I believe that you're taking about this edit made to Hyperemesis gravidarum, am I correct? The reason that the edit was reverted was because the edit also removed content without an explanation in the edit summary. If information is old, is it possible to keep the content to talk about it in a historical perspective and also add the updated information you found? (i.e. "Back in 2005, this is the information and research done"). I do see that you've referenced a source (Science Magazine), which is excellent - but we also want to consider whether or not the old content needs to be removed simply because it's old. An encyclopedia would usually keep this content, but simply section and explain it in a historical perspective. Let me know if you have any questions or need any assistance with this edit, and I'll be more than happy to help you :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:03, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

My edits keep getting deleted by "Eik Correll"

Today I checked out two Wikipedia articles before, and I found out my edits were deleted. The pages in question were Leisure suit Larry 6: shape up or slip out, and leisure suit Larry: magna cum laude. I had edited both pages to include the names of the female characters but a user named Eik Correll had removed my edits, and this the first time he/she/they/it changed one of my edits so this is the third time the user removed one of my edits (the first being List of The Smurfs characters), and worse when I checked Eik Correll's user page it was really "weird" to say the least. So can ya please help me? - Emilyiship'05 Emilyiship'05 (talk) 00:57, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Emilyiship'05! I see the changes you're talking about here and here, and I also see the two removals that Eik Corell made (here and here) where he cites WP:GAMECRUFT in each edit summary he wrote. Have you reviewed this guideline? If you disagree and believe that the content you added should be kept, have you reached out to Eik Corell directly and talked to him about it? This is the best first step to take; any dispute or misunderstanding (even complicated ones) can be quickly and easily resolved over a few messages back-and-fourth between one another - no need to be afraid ;-). Let me know how this goes and don't hesitate to message me if you have any more questions or need more of my input or advice. I'll be more than happy to help you. His user page is fine, by the way... it's just purposefully arranged to look silly. No big deal and nothing to worry about :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:14, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

/*Impact wrestling Canada*/

I am sorry to have been any trouble. It seems you have misunderstood my edits i changed Impact wrestling and the list of professional wrestling promotions due to the Fact that Impact wrestling has officially moved to Canada. Therefore Impact wrestling should be listed in the Canada section not the united states section on the list of professional wrestling promotions and refered to as Canadian on its own page.Just google Impact wrestling Canada ,Impact wrestling moves to Canada or Impact wrestling moving to Canada. Please update those pages. Thank you for your time.

Sincerly

A huge Impact wrestling fan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.223.182.96 (talk) 01:29, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for the message. I believe that you're referring to this edit you made to Impact Wrestling, am I correct? The removal of content wasn't explained, and it appears to be content that should be kept and (if anything) modified to reflect a historical perspective (i.e. "In 2005, this organization was in the US and did this..."). I recommend that you discuss your thoughts on the article's talk page and work with other editors to determine what the best solution to this change is. Two heads are better than one, right? :-) Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks again for the message and the explanation and I wish you a great rest of your day. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:22, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Simple Wikiquote

I wonder why new pages is restricted to stewards? 209.52.88.61 (talk) 19:17, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) because Simple Wikiquote is closed. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:39, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

See Xaosflux's response above - the project has been closed. Thank you, Xaosflux, for responding to this question while I was away :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:23, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Well, I need to create a page called q:simple:Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! as a soft redirect to 154.5.169.5 (talk) 23:56, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

" RV INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT PAGE BLOCK ISSUE"

Respected sir,

Recently, that is on May 31st 2018, I created a Wikipedia page by the name of "RV INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT". RV INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT is a very popular institute offering MBA courses under Bangalore University in Bengaluru, Karnataka, India. It is one of the sister concerns of RV College Of Engineering based in Bangalore. RV college of engineering has a Wikipedia page but RV Institute of Management does not have one.

So, as a student of "RV INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT", I was given the responsibility to create a page for our college in Wikipedia. But after creating the page, I needed some time to upload the contents and by the time I gathered the contents to upload, the page was blocked.

So kindly advice me as to how I should go ahead with setting up a page for my institute without violating any terms or rules that Wikipedia follows.

Thank You Regards Supreeth.T Supreetht02 (talk) 05:17, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

@Supreetht02: I suggest you to read WP:COI first before you continue. Thanks. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 05:31, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Supreetht02 - As stated above, please review Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest - it's highly discouraged to edit or contribute to articles that you have a personal conflict of interest with. I would also highly recommend that you review Wikipedia's guidelines on notability to make sure that this place is notable enough for its own article here. Otherwise, you'll be wasting your time and the article will end up being deleted due to the lack of notability. Rather than trying to create the article yourself, I would instead add the organization or institution to the list of requested articles if it hasn't been created here yet. But make sure you review the guidelines I list here first - having time wasted isn't fun and I want to do my best to make sure that you don't go through that frustration. I'm available should you have any questions or need additional help. Thanks again for the message and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Different Types Of Users

So I have seen three different types of users while on the wiki.

Registered Users

IP users

Then a third type of user that has something that looks like a UUID. See the giver of the most recent trout on my user talk page for an example.

What is up with that strange last type of user? I have seen a good number of them while using Huggle. Are they just people who the Wiki software can’t find an IP for?

Do you have any idea? Thanks! ~~ OH WAIT! I have one more thing to add

Don’t remove the trouts or warn that user. This guy is one of my online friends.and I made a bad joke which caused him to respond with “I have a wet fish with your name on it for that joke.” Okay. NOW, I can type thouse four tildes. Lakeside Out!-LakesideMiners^{Click Here To Talk To Me!} 12:28, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi LakesideMiners! There are only two types of users: registered users and IP users. The third type of user you are referring to is actually just an IP user but with a different type of IP address.

The IP's that look like '128.214.14.249' are called IPv4 addresses. IPv4 uses 32-bit addresses. The address is divided into 4 segments by using dots. Each of these segments has a number ranging from 0-255 and is worth 8 bits.

The IP's that look like '2A00:23C4:30C0:B300:4DF5:F782:76:50F4' are called IPv6 addresses. IPv6 uses 128-bit addresses. The address is divided into 8 segments by using colons. Each of these segments is written in hexadecimal (ie, having 0-9 and A-F) and is worth 16 bits.

Hope this helped. :) Jiten ^talk _contribs 14:28, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi LakesideMiners! As Jiten D explained, the user you're referring to is using a version 6 IP address (the IP addresses you're used to seeing are version 4 IP address). In a nutshell, IPv6 was created to address the future issues with IPv4 (such as the maximum number of them that can be allocated, and other technical things). If you're looking for an in-depth technical explanation of IPv6, you can read the explanation I made to Ivanvector on my talk page here (in my archives). That will explain the difference between IPv4 and IPv6, as well as ranges, how they're handed out etc. If you're not looking for a complication explanation, just know that it is an IP address, just a newer version ;-). Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Also, not sure what you're talking about with the "removing the trouts and warning the user"... If you know this person, I'd recommend that you encourage him to register an account instead of using his IP to edit ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Re Your message concerning a reversion of one of my edits.

Thank you for taking the trouble to send me a kind message explaining why you had undone my edit to the page on Harriet Harman, because of a perceived lack of neutrality.

I did not entirely agree with the decision, since my edit was a factual correction to a misleading statement that Ms. Harman was reported to have made. Ms. Harman's decision caused a degree of controversy, because of the Parliamentary post she held at the time. And because of wikipedia's very desire for neutrality, I think it important that any pages concerning politicians should reflect the correct facts - whether to their political advantage or disadvantage. Otherwise, they risk becoming mere vehicles of publicity for those politicians.

In this instance, my correction of the misleading statement that Ms. Harman was reported to have made was clearly not to her political advantage. Ms. Harman has done much very good and admirable work, and is to be commended for it. But her decision to send her son to a school which was not simply selective, but competitively selective, was highly controversial, as it seemed to many people to run counter to the stated policy of her party, and her post within the party.) I therefore feel it important that the wikipedia page reflect the correct facts concerning the school that she chose for her son, rather than that the misleading statement be left to stand uncorrected. I know that my information is completely accurate, because we lived in the borough. (In fact, my own son was awarded a place and would have been a contemporary of Ms. Harman's son, had my husband's job not taken us elsewhere. :-)) I probably still have the relevant prospectus somewhere, but that's obviously of no use in terms of the wikipedia entry!

However, I have no wish to dispute your decision, especially since you were kind and courteous enough to write to tell me of it and to explain your reasons. This message is intended merely to explain my own reasons for trying (on more than one occasion, actually!) to make this amendment in a manner which will be permitted to stand. And, of course, to thank you for all the work I see from your talk page, etc. that you do on behalf of wikipedia and those who use and contribute to it - and, of course, to offer you my apologies for creating still more of it!

I have made yet another attempt to amend the page, to correct without apparent bias. I hope that this time I have got it right! MrsJJHH (talk) 22:24, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi MrsJJHH, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns. I appreciate you for taking the time to tell me how you feel about the edit and the reversion that followed, and do so in a civil and respectful manner. The reason I reverted the edit you made here to Harriet Harman was because the content you added appeared to try and describe the school the article subject's son attended in a non-neutral manner. You added, "In fact, St. Olave's is not a mere grammar school. It selects its students on the basis of its own academically competitive entrance examination, held at the school" - which looks to try and describe the school as a high or prestigious educational institution. This was what caused me concern in regards to your edit and Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. I do see that your newest edit to the article here lacks that sentence (which is good and is an improvement in respect to neutrality). However, I still have concerns with the edit in the "big picture" aspect, as the content you added begins to go off-track with what the article section is focused on. It's supposed to be about the personal life of the article subject, and not go far into details over her son, the school he attends, and how prestigious that school is... the content reads like it's starting to go off focus. Aside from that concern, I'll definitely commend you for taking the time to understand my initial concerns and make an improved edit to the article with this in mind - the content still makes some implications and I think it introduces some other problems, but you improved what was advised and recommended to you - and that's a really good thing! If you have any more questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to let me know and I'll be more than happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing. Keep up the good work :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:42, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

MrsJJHH - Also, if you take a look at the article's current revision, you'll see that someone made some improved edits based off your changes. Take a look; I think you'll understand what I was talking about after you read the section and see the changes that were done :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:03, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	A sincere thank you for getting rid of those troublemakers (aka vandals) Happy Wiki and keep up the good work. ARMcgrath (talk) 02:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi ARMcgrath! I appreciate the barnstar - thank you very much! Recent changes patrolling is something I've enjoyed doing for a very long time, and probably something I'll continue to enjoy doing here regardless of what direction I wind up going on Wikipedia ;-). Again, I appreciate the wikilove and I hope you have a great rest of your weekend :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Your welcome and same here ARM

02:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

No subject

I may not know exactly how to add but I am using sources and it keeps changing. Is this a fact site or just for promo — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattyIceMoney (talk • contribs) 03:12, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

MattyIceMoney, your edits made to Catalina (magazine) are very confusing... what exactly are you trying to add or accomplish here? You first removed content from the article, then added an unrelated external URL to it, then added a bunch of unrelated content that appears copied straight from somewhere... Can you please explain so I can try and understand what you're doing and help you? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hey, the faroo site is down, permanently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.236.194 (talk) 04:07, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Adnan Khashoggi

Changes should not be revised. Names of children and spousal dates are referenced in existing citation articles.

Photo's added are already referenced by multiple citations. Commons already has references for existing photos of Adnan Khashoggi plane, yacht etc.

98.173.52.117 (talk) 05:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. The edit I made to Adnan Khashoggi was because of concerns with the recent changes not citing any sources. However, if they're already referenced elsewhere, that's fine by me... so long as the changes and additions are actually referenced ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:30, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

No subject

Hi Oshwah, First of all, sorry for such a delay in reply. I made changes because I read a few articles about Maharathi Karna and got a gist of his Life. He was actually the son of the Lord SUN which makes him a sibling of Lord Shani and Lord Yama etc. Karna was not conceived by a human or his rightful mother Kunti but was gifted to Kunti by Lord Surya which makes him his son. Please check and let me know.

Thanks & Regards Sumeet Deshpande mob : [REDACTED - Oshwah] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumeet150621 (talk • contribs) 05:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sumeet150621, and thanks for leaving me a message here. Holy cow... the edits you're talking about were made years ago (October 2015). Regardless, you're obviously welcome to message me and discuss concerns from any time period... I just might not be able to remember or speak much of them later ;-). The reason I reverted your edits to Shani back in October 2015 was due to the content you added being worded positively toward the subject instead of being worded neutrally. If you look at the changes you made (see link above), you added content describing Karna as "a tragic hero and one of the central characters in the Hindu" and "an inspiration to face difficulties in life". This reflects a non-neutral point of view, and is why the changes were removed and a notice left on your user talk page. I highly recommend that you review Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy as all edits and article content must reflect this viewpoint. If you have any questions about the policy after reviewing the policy page, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:38, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Sumeet150621 - Also, I removed and redacted the mobile number that you left here for me. It's a very bad idea to give out your personal or contact information like that; I removed and redacted this information for your safety and your protection. You should review this Wikipedia essay and take care to follow the advice given. Posting private information on a public page (like here) is something that can haunt you later, and very badly... don't put yourself in that position :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:44, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Are you sure this is a edit test? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 07:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - That's what I interpreted the edit as... unless you believe it's something else? What are your thoughts? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I just press Q. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 07:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - I see ;-). If you haven't read the essay I wrote on test edits, I highly recommend it. It's a good read and you might take some good information and thoughts away from it. In a nutshell, if it's not blatant vandalism but the edit surely doesn't belong, etc. - I'll assume that it may have just been a test and talk to the user by treating the edit as such. It's better to assume that an edit was just a test than to assume that it was vandalism in cases where the edits are clearly tests, or in cases where you may not be sure. Doing this avoids the potential of causing the user to become angry or frustrated if their edit wasn't meant to be vandalism, but your warning "accused them" of such ;-). Give the essay a read and let me know what you think :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Actually I think that "removal of a single word or a small number of words from the article" may not be edit tests. Sometimes I see people intentionally remove a few characters from the article and destroy the sentence structure or make it sounds funny (Example: mass --> ass). For the "slight or subtle modification of a template, table, or similar object. It may cause a huge impact to the article, but the edit itself will usually be small", I don't disagree with this, but if I remember correctly there will be a tip which asks you to press review button upon first edit, so they should see the difference. Removing or adding characters to destroy templates are generally marked as vandalism by me. Cheers, Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - The example you listed (changing "mass" to "ass") wouldn't be considered a test (depending on context). A simple removal of a letter or a word is usually a test, but you obviously need to use your common sense and look at the context. That's the "big picture" point of the essay - to explain what tests typically will be when you run into one, and to remind editors to look and use common sense when deciding how to proceed :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Well currently I only mark edits as edit tests IF AND ONLY IF they are 'Hi' or 'testing' etc. I just can't AGF all the time. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - I don't disagree with that at all... I just figured that you'd get some good insight from reading the essay I wrote, and that it would help explain why I considered the edit you asked about to be a test rather than vandalism :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:32, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice Oshwah. I will try :-) Happy vandal fighting Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Always happy to help. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:36, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh by the way are you sure that these are just random characters or they have other meanings? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:38, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Google translate says that it's French and spits out "nite of black" as the English translation... so you got me. I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean when you put it into context on the article... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:03, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Lol... Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Anubhav1997-04-2

What about all of Anubhav1997-04-26 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)'s edits? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 08:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Jim1138 - If they're positive changes, we can leave them. If they're questionable at all, they should be reverted. Are there edits that I should take a look at? Let me know. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:52, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

They probably are. It would take a fair amount of work to fully ascertain. They don't look nefarious. Leave 'em. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 08:54, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Jim1138 - Sounds good; thanks for helping to revert those edits to the LTA page. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:54, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Jim1138 and Oshwah, what about Category:Zanaki people? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus -  Fixed. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

175.138.71.161

175.138.71.161 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Is changing dates up to several a minute. I've AIV'd the anon. Would you please block? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 08:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Jim1138 -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Blocking hours

Hi. I wonder why some admins block users for 31 hours instead of 12, 24 or 36 hours. Bored Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Good question! The duration obviously depends on the offense, past offenses, severity, and factors like socking, etc... But if we're talking about why block durations are set differently between admins and over the same thing (vandalism, for example and on a user who hasn't been blocked before), it's a matter of discretion and preference, really. I asked a version of this question to someone else because I didn't understand why 31 hours is the default duration set in Twinkle, Huggle, other automated tools, etc. I was told that it's because 31 hours isn't easy for one's mind to count and remember, so it makes it harder for the blocked user to easily return right when their block expires and continue what they were doing. I personally think that 31 hours is random compared to 36 hours, but I do agree that having a block set to either duration does make a difference in that aspect compared to setting one for 24 hours. I just set a 36 hour block for things like that (1.5 days) and I just leave it at that ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Well that makes no difference IMO. People won't really calculate the duration, then do things like new year countdowns and finally "PHEW, my block has expired!" and continue to vandalize Wikipedia, right? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:47, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - HA! You'd actually be surprised... I've seen it happen many times. However, I don't think that making a block 31 hours as opposed to 36 hours makes any difference or deters that behavior at all. If someone really wants to make sure they continue what they're doing immediately after their block expires, they'll do it. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Speechless. They're not humans. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

They're humans that really have a grudge against Wikipedia and/or have nothing better to do :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:06, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

But if it's a IP, indef blocks are not applicable? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:07, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

What I'm talking about only applies to temporary blocks. Indefinite blocks don't expire, so they wouldn't be waiting to be able to edit again ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Trust us, it happens. Some vandals have no life outside vandalising Wikipedia. Many return like clockwork. I've always been of the opinion that editors tend to get into a routine, and the 31 hour rather than 24 hour block throws their routine out a little. So instead of editing from 9pm onwards nightly, to resume, they'll need to be up at 4am to get back on the game. That's how I've viewed it anyway, which is kinda what Oshwah (talk · contribs) said anyway :D -- Longhair\^talk 12:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Wow. I wonder if they are paid for doing this. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:15, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Mate, some folks are so alienated even negative attention is still attention, which is what many of them crave. It's a complex psychology, but once you've dealt with them you tend to see it from their side after seeing how determined some truly are to cause harm, just to get some twisted kind of award, even if that award is a kick up the arse :D -- Longhair\^talk 12:21, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

As Longhair says, it's a way of throwing vandals off a routine, especially schoolkids who have a fairly predictable window from which to vandalize, either at school or when they get home. The extra seven hours is enough to make it inconvenient to schedule more vandalism - 24 hours often guarantees a return the next day. Acroterion (talk) 12:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Acroterion and Longhair are both correct - this behavior is common with vandals, LTAs, etc., and setting a 24 hour block makes no sense compared to a 31 or 36 hour block because we already know that this exact time of day is when causing disruption is convenient for them. Setting a 24 hour block will simply allow them to do it the next day and during that same convenient period of time ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:33, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

@Acroterion: @Longhair: @Oshwah:  Thank you very much! Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:57, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

According to Acroterion, 31 hour blocks are likely for school blocks? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:03, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - They can certainly start with that duration, yes. As with most schools, the disruption will usually repeat in the future. When this happens, a longer duration will be applied with each additional block that is needed. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:06, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

But IP indef blocks are so rare. The longest IP block I've ever seen is 2 years. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I never apply indefinite IP blocks (except for those few times I did so accidentally... and that one other time...), and neither do most admins. We'll place blocks that expire many years from now if such a block is needed (I think the longest block I applied that wasn't indefinite was seven years), but IPs generally should never be indefinitely blocked. The exceptions to this general rule are so rare that it's not even worth mentioning ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:15, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Not sure how I stumbled on this, but a [=userblocks&wpOptions[]=tempblocks&limit=10&wpFormIdentifier=blocklist quick check] of active indefinite IP blocks that placed this year shows 10 blocks, 2 of which you made. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Xaosflux - Ruh roh! I'll take a look and resolve those now... thanks for running that query :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:55, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

That url is horriblly encoded, you can copy and paste from this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BlockList?wpTarget=&wpOptions[]=userblocks&wpOptions[]=tempblocks&limit=10&wpFormIdentifier=blocklist — xaosflux ^Talk 13:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Xaosflux -  Fixed. Thanks again ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:59, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Here is what you're talking about. And I think I've asked too much. It’s always a pleasure to chat with you. I've learnt a lot Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

That's correct - what you're asking about is explained in that section you found. And no, you didn't ask too much at all... questions are welcome here and your questions were perfectly fine. Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any more of them ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:22, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Posting in the middle of a pile of messages. Cheeky Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Mind your P’s and Q’s

I am not trying to sound arrogant but I am the only one that gave you the accurate definition of what it meant by mind your P’s and Q’s - i’ve come from several generations of educated African-Americans that date all the way back to slavery where the term was coined the people that are writing on this site does not really have a definitive understanding of what the term really means and I didn’t see where I was supposed to add what it was you were asking me for. If you decided to delete it it’s OK but I assure you I am the only one with the right definition a lot of the stuff that they’ve written doesn’t even make sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Nathan Thomas (talk • contribs) 12:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dr. Nathan Thomas, and thanks for leaving me a message here about your edit to Mind your Ps and Qs. Your edit added a lot of information that didn't appear to be the same as what the article content was describing, and you didn't provide or cite any sources with what you added. On top of this, you added this content to a location within the article that isn't correct (you added it to the "references" section). Did you maybe mean to add this elsewhere? I recommend that you add what you wanted to change to the article's talk page and have other editors verify what you're trying to add and assist you with any issues. Your changes are not permanently gone; they (as well as all changes to the article) can be viewed by looking at the article's edit history (or simply by clicking on the link I provided to you). I think that by doing this, you'll not only receive any assistance you may need, but other editors can collaborate and work with you and add changes that will improve the article. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. On another note, since you're new here... I'd also recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial. It will provide you with a good deal of guides, walkthroughs, and introductions and over information that you'll need to become familiar with. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Reverting vandalism on my talk page. Always happens when I'm not in my computer chair but there's always someone who keeps an eye on my talk page. Iggy (Swan) 15:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Iggy the Swan! Thanks for the pie, and sure no problem - that was a doozy for sure. Was able to get both ranges blocked and put at least a temporary stop to it all... we'll see what happens ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:54, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

About my edit on Mohamed Nasheed

Dear Oshwah, My sincere apologies for the delete of the information. I am relatively new to wikipedia so I was a bit confused so I happened to do that. I assure that no such action will be repeated from my side. Once again my sincere apologies. Cheers--Dhivehingewatan (talk) 16:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Dhivehingewatan - No apologies are necessary - we were all new here once ;-). If you need help with anything, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to lend a hand. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:32, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

137.90.136.81

• 137.90.136.81 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

FYI, this IP had [previously been blocked https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A137.90.136.81] for two weeks as a school block, albeit, the block was not all that recent. However, taking a glance at the IPs edits suggest that the IP editor may just come back after the shorter block expires. Would you be willing to increase the block duration? Thanks. 82.41.37.166 (talk) 16:32, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh damn... good call on the previous block. For some reason I managed to missed that -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:34, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Coalinga High School Revert

Was attempting to do a Rollback(AGF) but got tangled up in that rollback you did at the same time. Oops. All better now. :) — Mr X ^☎️ 16:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Mr Xaero - No big deal; it happens to all of us ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Our Whole Lives

Wilson, Pamela M. Our Whole Lives: Sexuality Education for Grades 7-9. 2nd ed. Unitarian Universalist Association and United Church of Christ, 2014.

Davis, Melanie, Ann Hanson, and Melissa Lopez. Sexuality and Our Faith: A Companion to Our Whole Lives, Grades 7-9. 2nd ed. Unitarian Universalist Association and United Church of Christ, 2015.

Hi, I will include these citations when I figure out how to do so. I haven't edited an article before, so going to go consult some tutorials! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.179.7 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! The tutorials you're probably looking for are this page on citing sources in-line, as well as this page on identifying reliable sources. If you decide to create an account, you'll be able to go through and complete Wikipedia's full new user tutorial, which provides you with many guides, walkthroughs, and exercises to help you. Think about it... but just know that you're absolutely not required to if you don't want to ;-). I hope you have a great rest of your day and I wish you happy editing. Thanks for the messages :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:13, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

CAT:REVDEL request for Dianne Feinstein

I have reverted two gross vandalism edits from an anonymous IP and was hoping you could remove them from history per CAT:REVDEL. Here are the edits:

• [REDACTED - Oshwah]
• [REDACTED - Oshwah]

FYI, I've also given the editor a final warning but otherwise am just watching for further vandalism.

Thanks!

--KNHaw ^(talk) 18:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

KNHaw -  Done. Thanks for reporting those edits so that they could be redacted ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

As always, thank *you* for your swift response! --KNHaw ^(talk) 18:38, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

As a thank you, here's a little something to go with the pie user:Iggy the Swan gave you. KNHaw (talk) 18:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

KNHaw - Ahh... perfect combination. Thank you ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, as always

Thanks for thanking me. It is always appreciated very much. Rock on. UnsungKing123 (talk) 19:41, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

UnsungKing123 - Keep up the excellent work! Patrolling recent changes and cleaning up vandalism and disruption is a thankless task; I try my best to make sure that others know that their time and energy in this area is appreciated ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Harpy eagle

Please stop reverting scientifically proven data (harpy eagle). The source is legit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.46.126.2 (talk) 19:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Your edit removes and modifies content that's referenced by a reliable source, and replaces it with content referenced from this URL... an IP address (no domain?) that displays a site maintenance notification... what exactly is this website? Who owns and runs it? What do they represent? How exactly is this reference reliable? I see that you've been warned in the past regarding your edits and repeated reversions to this article - please don't let yourself repeat this behavior. You should be taking this to the article's talk page and having it reviewed and discussed... Please follow Wikipedia's dispute resolution protocol and discuss this edit and allow others to get involved and view what you want to change. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Auditory scene analysis

Hi, is there any way you could have a peek and let me know what's there? I have no idea why this was on my watchlist, but I'd assume it might be because I'd seen some promise in it. Has the content been merged into Auditory scene analysis, or something like that? – Uanfala (talk) 20:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Uanfala - Sure, not a problem. It looks like that draft page was a copy of the content from Auditory scene analysis created 25 April, 2018. The content was then copy-and-paste moved to the creator's user sandbox (and is where you can view the content now) and a G7 was requested. Please let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else and I'll be happy to help. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:11, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Ah, so that's what's happened. Thanks a lot! – Uanfala (talk) 20:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Uanfala - No problem ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:40, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Laurie Smith

I can no longer edit Laurie Smiths page, but it would be irresponsible to leave out this important information about Ms. Smith since it can be easily confirmed and is definitely worthy of being included on her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gorbax85 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Gorbax85 - That's not how that works... like at all. You can't just walk up to an article about a living person and add unreferenced content like that... the changes being made add extremely contentious information, and doing so without citing a reliable source is a very serious violation of that policy. I figured something was up after the third time someone unrelated added similar content to that article - glad I caught it early and protected it before edits started getting out of control there. The article is protected in order to enforce Wikipedia's biographies of living people policy and assure that all edits made are in compliance. You're welcome to make an edit request if you wish, which will allow other editors to review your proposed changes and them apply them if there are no issues. Just follow the instructions listed on the page I linked, and you'll be able to leave one. Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

stoppit

I WANT TO MAKE CHANGES STOP NERDING THEM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.71.42 (talk) 22:22, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

You must block IP range

Haha. I love when admins lessen blocks which allows erryo and his sock accounts to infiltrate Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Opportunity is lovely (talk • contribs) 22:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Question about one of your reverts

What? Someguy1221 (talk) 23:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Someguy1221 - "What?" is a perfect question to ask... Yeah that was... uhh... not intended. Wow, okay then... I've gone ahead and manually added the new discussion back to the noticeboard and I appreciate you for giving me a heads up about it. Thank you :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Gulfstream Park Handicap— because it did not appear constructive

Thanks, but he official race name is essential. How do I do an essential redirect and change the actual title? Stretchrunner (talk) 00:46, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Stretchrunner - Hey, thanks for the message. Did the name of the race change? If it has, just request a page move at this page. You'll need to supply reliable sources with your request to prove that the name change is legitimate. When this is done and the article is renamed (moved), you can then use those same reliable sources to cite your edits to the article :-). Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to help. Thanks again for the message. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:49, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

User:Oshwah - much appreciated. Did full race table that was a lot of work fixing all my errors that appear when I click "Show Preview" so am tired and will request a page move tomorrow. Do they do a Redirect page too or is that automatic? Stretchrunner (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:53, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Stretchrunner - It's automatically created when the page move is performed, so the old page will be redirected to the new one. Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything, and I'll be happy to so. Get some rest, and I'll see you when you're back :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:56, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

User:MANJEET RANI

If it is not done yet, Could you delete this userpage: User:MANJEET RANI and block the user?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:09, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - I deleted the user page, but I'm going to hold off on blocking. We should give the user a final warning and to tell them that they need to review the page you gave them earlier and to go through Wikipedia's new user tutorial. I don't want to give up on this user yet... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:11, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Sounds Good.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:12, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - I just left the user a final warning. Let's see how that goes... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:14, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject

I've asked this at the teahouse. But if I wanted to create a WikiProject, What's your advice?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:14, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Easy... just go out there, create a project space, and don't let yourself be afraid of the little things. If you do it wrong, we can fix it - no big deal :-). Just make sure to search through the WikiProject list and make sure that one doesn't already exist that's similar to yours - otherwise, you can just join that project and boom, done. There isn't really anything complicated about starting a project... not that I can imagine... Just refer to that WikiProject page for information and guides and you'll be all set ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:18, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah I've Proposed it here.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:34, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Vandal

Hi Oshwah, can you pull Special:Contributions/TheWolfyMan's plug? He's already had his fourth and final warning. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 02:18, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

BilCat -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:19, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 02:21, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - Any time ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:24, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Admin stats

You blocked so many users lol... Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 02:44, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

OH MY GOD IT'S OFF THE CHARTS!!! :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

My addition to Hugh Dane’s page

I just wanted to let other fans know he has passed. I found out from Rainn Wilson’s Instagram page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgetheofficeandsuch (talk • contribs) 04:46, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Knowledgetheofficeandsuch, and thanks for leaving me a message here. I absolutely understand where you're coming from and I know you meant no harm, but we absolutely cannot make edits to biographies of living people and update the content and say that they're now dead without providing reliable sources that are secondary and independent from the article subject. That means Twitter, blogs, Facebook, posts, or information supposedly owned by the person, family, etc - do not count, and failing to do this is a very serious violation of policy. The deaths of famous people have been successfully hoaxed before and in cases where the "attacker or mastermind" of had control of their online accounts and/or had the ability to convince many people that it was true. This is the reason that we require that you provide sources that are independent of the person, are peer reviewed and scrutinized and that provide their evidence, and are written by people who have no personal conflict of interest with the person. It guarantees that the information we add or update on articles of living people are true. Wikipedia has been the center of internet and media attention in the past because we failed to enforce this policy and it resulted in having contentious, libelous, false, and hoaxed information about a living person added to an article and presented as factual and encyclopedic information... not good (lol). This policy is taken very seriously, and that's why I reverted your edit and added protection to the article today. We just can't have that going on... not with biographies of living people. Again, I know that you probably weren't completely aware of this, and it's really not a big deal - good faith mistakes are normal and they happen. I just wanted to take the time to explain so that you understand that we hold edits to these articles to high scrutiny and that you understand why. Anyways, let me know if you have any questions or need anything. Thanks again for the message, and I hope you have a great night. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:05, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Mikayla Parteli 1996

Mikayla Parteli 1996 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Was doing constructive edits until the last three. Compromised? No need for a reply. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 08:11, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I've indefinitely blocked; something tells me that this might not be a compromised account... Thanks for the heads up ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:15, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #21724

A user you have blocked has opened UTRS appeal #21724 on the Unblock Ticket Request System. The reviewing administrator, Dlohcierekim (talk · contribs), has requested your input:

MrSunshine83 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Time: Jun 05, 2018 09:20:27

Message: Well, he certainly has an on again/off again relationship. Doesn't really address the reasons for the block.

Notes:

• If you do not have an account on UTRS, you may create one at the administrator registration interface.
• Alternatively, you can respond here and indicate whether you are supportive or opposed to an unblock for this user and your rationale, if applicable.

--UTRSBot (talk) 09:20, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Melissa Hines

That IP marked Psychassist's edits as vandalism. I think that's inappropriate. What do you think? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - I think that the IP user was correct in reverting the edits made (Psychassist's two edits just removed a bunch of content and without a clear explanation as to why), but I would not consider those edits vandalism, no. I don't see where the IP user said anything about those edits by Psychassist being vandalism? Looks like the IP user just undid those edits... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:37, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

You talked to me

I believe you took down a article on Emmet I don’t know his last name but he is predicted to go into professional AFL or Cricket and plays in a very high grade in club state for both — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auzzie2006 (talk • contribs) 13:05, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Auzzie2006 - The edit you made here adds opinionated analysis about this player and his skills, which speaks positively about them and hence does not reflect a neutral point of view (which is required of all content and to all articles on Wikipedia). Please review this policy, take time to look through the list of words to watch out for and avoid using when you made edits and add content, and you'll gain a better understanding of why your edit caused concerns. Please let me know if you have any questions about the policies and guidelines I linked you here, and I'll be happy to answer them. I hope you have a great day and I wish you happy editing. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:16, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Boracay?

I see you reverted my edits. It really isn't all that important, but I feel like I should know what I'm doing wrong and I can't fathom the reason. Acqua Minerale (talk) 13:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Acqua Minerale! Please accept my apologies - I made that revert and left that warning accidentally. I've restored the changes you made back to the article and removed the warning I left. Please let me know if you have questions or concern and I'll be happy to help you. Sorry for the mistake, and I hope it didn't cause you too much frustration... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:11, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

No frustration at all. Thanks for the fast reaction and keep up the good work! Acqua Minerale (talk) 13:13, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Acqua Minerale - You bet, and thanks for letting me know about the mess-up. I'm happy that I was able to resolve it quickly for you so that you can continue editing. I'm here and available should you run into any questions or need anything. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:19, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Vivienne Westwood

Hi Oshwah,

I hope you're doing well?

I'm contacting you regarding VW's wikipeda page.

Vivienne's work with charities is one of her biggest pride and her relentless pursuit of a better world is being severely hampered by her Wikipedia page framing her as a tax-avoider.

Is there anyway we can get that content removed?

Thank you G Mehanna (talk) 13:32, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi G Mehanna, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions and concerns. I saw that you've made some edits to Vivienne Westwood - most of which removed referenced content that didn't violate policy and contained issues, but one of which that I agreed should have been removed (which was the edit you made here that removed content that was not referenced by any sources). I went through the article just now and I removed any paragraphs from the article that didn't contain any references cited. Based on your edit summaries and your message here, it's obvious that you have a conflict of interest with this article and subject, and are making edits and changes under this person's direction. This behavior is highly discouraged as your edits will draw the article's neutality into question (since you're obviously representing a point of view). I would not make any additional changes to the article, but instead make edit requests so that they can be reviewed and applied by another editor for you if no issues are found. This will keep you in compliance with Wikipedia's behavioral policies and guidelines on personal conflicts of interest and proxy-editing, but also allow you to request changes be made to the article and have them applied. Please follow my advice and navigate to the guide on making those requests (see link above), and follow the instructions there in order to create edit requests and verify that they include what's needed. If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Otherwise, you'll end up only wasting your time, as other editors will see your conflict and your changes will be reverted for this reason. Don't waste your time like that; file edit requests so we can take a look at them and apply them for you. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing. Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:45, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Osh - really helpful advice! — Preceding unsigned comment added by G Mehanna (talk • contribs) 13:49, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

You bet; always happy to help. Good luck, and happy editing to you! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Now that I understand the mistake that was made with regards to how editing should work, would you mind telling me how I can delete my revisions from the revision history page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by G Mehanna (talk • contribs) 13:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi G Mehanna! All edits that are made to Wikipedia on any page are available and can be accessed by the public; they cannot be deleted. Administrators can hide edit details and log information but only if they meet one of the criteria for redaction here (such as containing copyright violations, threats made toward an editor, or other grossly disruptive or offensive content). Otherwise, we cannot delete or remove edit histories or logs and they are stored permanently and accessible by anyone and for an indefinite duration of time. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message, and I hope you're having a good day. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:15, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Osh - thanks for yet again another insightful answer! Can we please hide edit details that reference VW as they are my own personal opinions and qualify as copyright violations and libel. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by G Mehanna (talk • contribs) 14:46, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

G Mehanna - I need to know exactly what changes in the edit history you're talking about... can you provide me with the URLs to the revision comparison that contains the content being added? You can read instructions on how to grab what I need by reading this help page. Once I have this, I'll be able to see exactly what you're talking about and take a look. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:54, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Osh - here are the links to the revisions I'm mentioning:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vivienne_Westwood&diff=844520800&oldid=844520693
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vivienne_Westwood&diff=844520693&oldid=844520270
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vivienne_Westwood&diff=844520193&oldid=843742887

All the changes have been undone now so the revisions are irrelevant, which is why I'm hoping we can hide the edit detail from those revisions.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by G Mehanna (talk • contribs) 15:19, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

G Mehanna - These edits you listed are not eligible for redaction. The content appears to be referenced by reliable sources and in compliance with Wikipedia's biographies of living people policy. You cannot remove content from an article because someone "requests it" or because "they don't like it"; I take Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living people very seriously and I scrutinize edits and content on those articles with a very high level of care and make sure that nobody adds vandalism or blatantly false or contentious information to them. With that said, I understand that you're here in order to change the article to reflect what you (or the article subject) wants, but unless your editing requests provide valid and legitimate reasons as to why the content is in violation of Wikipedia policy - it won't be removed. One of Wikipedia's core principles is that we provide content that's written by neutral contributors, referenced using neutral and reliable sources, and reflects a neutral point of view and with all sides reflected (whether it's "good" or "bad" things). Your heart is in the right place and I know that you mean well, but I need to let you know this since you're new to Wikipedia and don't understand all of the policies and guidelines yet. You'll need to follow-up with edit requests on the article's talk page if you believe that content should be removed and explain why it should be. Otherwise, we're not going to remove content because it "looks bad" and only leave the positive content... neutrality is a two-way street and it means that we add content to articles and focus on verifiability rather than truth. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. I appreciate your follow-up questions and for providing the information I needed, and I hope that you understand :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:44, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm asking for. I'm not asking for the redactions themselves to be deleted and for my edits to happen, but rather for the detail of the redactions on the revision history to be hidden. I'm happy for the page to stay as it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by G Mehanna (talk • contribs) 15:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

G Mehanna - Okay, so from what you're saying... you're not requesting anything be changed or removed from the article as it is right now. Your concerns are with some past changes that are viewable in the article's history. Okay, that makes perfect sense to me and that's fine, but the edits you provided from the article's history are not eligible to be redacted. They do not meet the requirements by falling into one of the criterion listed here. All of the content present in these revisions are in compliance with Wikipedia's policy and don't contain content serious enough to warrant redaction. Your reason given, that the edits that contain "details that reference UW" are "your personal opinion and qualify as copyright violations and libel" - make absolutely no sense. I don't think you fully understand what constitutes copyright violations and what constitutes libel... I'm not seeing any of those problems in the diffs at the URLs you listed above. If I'm missing something, you might have to quote what you're referring to specifically so that I can search and find it... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:07, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Please take a second look

at this revert you made. I tagged the file Leecarmack20 uploaded to commons commons:File:Blue falcon 18.jpg ‎(Cross-wiki upload from en.wikipedia.org) for speedy deletion. wbm1058 (talk) 14:56, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

wbm1058 - Checking... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:59, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

wbm1058 - Good call; I'm glad you messaged me about this and gave me a heads up. Not only were the images tagged and now deleted from Commons, but all of the changes made today to that article were blatant vandalism, which I've completely reverted. Thanks for letting me know about this - I appreciate it very much. All set! :-D ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:03, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

FYI, I found this because Dynomutt, Dog Wonder landed in Category:Articles with redirect hatnotes needing review.

That one-edit IP that you reverted in spite of their edit summary "Fixed possible slander" could have been the victim, editing from the same office. wbm1058 (talk) 15:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

wbm1058 - The removal of the picture showed up on my recent changes feed, and that's how I ran into it. Yeah, I realized that just a bit ago with the IP and their attempts to remove the image... their reversion was correct. Let me know if I can help with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. Thanks again for the heads up - much appreciated ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:12, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

No subject

Actually yeah the edit done by me was by a mistake. Sorry to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaqib mukadam (talk • contribs) 15:25, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Aaqib mukadam - No big deal; thanks for letting me know. If you need help with anything or if you run into any questions, don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help. Happy editing ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:46, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For quite consistently getting the revert before I could today and always being willing to send thanks to fellow editors. RA0808 talkcontribs 17:04, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

RA0808! Thanks for the barnstar, man! It means a lot and I really appreciate it. Also, I gor your message in -revdel on IRC and I've taken care of the edit. Thanks for joining and for letting us know about it :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:13, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you so much for dealing with that! RA0808 ^talk_contribs 17:43, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

RA0808 - You bet; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:44, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Alejandra del Moral Vela

I did provide a reliable source, it's an official source from the government itself.--200.76.194.58 (talk) 20:04, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh dear! I owe you my apologies! I performed the rollback on your edit accidentally instead of the edit I actually intended. I've restored the change you made back to the article and I removed the notice off of your user talk page. Please accept my apologies for the confusion and please let me know if you have any questions or need any help. Thanks for leaving me a message here and for letting me know about this. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Ow!

I took it on the chin! Jim1138 (talk) 20:45, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

LOL ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:06, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Gordon Tracy alteration

I don't particularly know how to make that citation (and I made one on John's page too) as they're observations from watching the series. They concern the characters of John and Gordon seeming to have romantic interests in the show in the form of Captain O'Bannon (John) and Lady Penelope (Gordon). They were more interesting tidbits I noticed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:2800:1620:F84F:938:35CB:EBFE (talk) 21:34, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! I took another look at the article and just realized that it's about a fictional character. For some stupid reason, I misread or mixed something up with another, and thought that this article subject was about a real person. Bearing this fact in mind, I'm much much less inclined to ask for a reference to support what you added. I've restored the change you made to the article and removed the notice I left on your talk page. Thanks for leaving me a message on my talk page about this, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:40, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Gordon Tracy alteration

Appreciate the quick response, and the leeway. Thanks man! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.21.121.47 (talk) 22:01, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

No problem at all. Welcome to the project! I hope you enjoy your stay here and that you decide to become a long-term editor and member of the community with us! If you need help or assistance with anything, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to lend a hand. Thanks again for the message, and I hope you have a great day. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

You were quick! I'd only just reverted the edit on ClueBot NG's talk page, went to block them but was beaten to it --5 albert square (talk) 22:20, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi 5 albert square! It's good to talk to you again. Thanks! I've been doing it for some time now, and I've been keeping particular eyes out for this and two other LTA users' that I've been repeatedly catching in my "sock net" and blocking ;-). It can get quite complicated and ridiculous, but.... well.... someone's gotta patrol the recent changes and someone's gotta get dirty with sniffing out, locating, and blocking LTA's and sock users ;-). I appreciate your message and your kind words, and I hope you're having an excellent day. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:28, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

My IP address changed

I was blocked at school. I had an old IP address of 108.180.194.7 that I liked because the first two digits are anagrams of each other. Would you unblock 108.180.194.7 and block my new IP for 5 days after I request a template change? 154.5.169.5 (talk) 23:10, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

OK, now you can block me for 5 days. 154.5.169.5 (talk) 23:15, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Why... would I block your new IP? That would not only be against policy, but silly and pointless - it wouldn't help you at all. lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:16, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Uh, no seriously. Which policy are you–i mean you, not Gilliam Dlohcierkim, talking about? 154.5.169.5 (talk) 23:24, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm referring to a couple of policies and community norms. Unless there's a compelling reason to do so, we don't unblock the IP address of a school while a block is currently in place. I also can't just apply blocks to whomever I want and when I want - meaning that if I were to block you right now, it would be considered an absolutely severe misuse of administrator tools and I potentially could have them removed over the one incident. Because you're on an IP address right now that isn't blocked, why don't you create and use an account instead? This is easily the best solution here, as you'll be able to have a unique username here, and on top of that... you'll be able to edit while at your school by logging into your account. Using an account is the answer to the problem here, and is a win/win for you. Take a look at that guide I liked you to, and give it some consideration ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:32, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Uh, we’re not at school 154.5.169.5 (talk) 00:52, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Whoops

Whoops! This is what happens when I edit too quickly on my mobile. Thanks for reviewing, sorry! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:34, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 - What exactly am I looking at here? Do you need my help with something? Forgive me if my confusion is over something obvious, but I don't understand what happened and what you're asking about or need me to do for you. Just let me know and I'll be happy to help. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:37, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh no sorry. I accidentally added a welcome template to someone's user page instead of talk page and you reviewed the page so I got a notification about it. That's all. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:41, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 - AHA! I understand now... I totally didn't notice that this was left on the person's user page instead of their user talk page... oh well, shit happens.... ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:44, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Tacos

Sorry Oshwah! My friend Katie loves to eat tacos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.0.198.246 (talk) 23:41, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Rebot ,solfware ,apps open source

Sorry to respond only now ,its about 1:38 in South Africa ,Cape Town and thanx again For the help ,I been throw hell and out with devices, I just read throw your notes ,must say ,you no what you talking about is like your part of the program ,well all I can tell you ,I no Zero ,but everyday ,am in a cyber battle ,and from what I just read ,I was really not alone ,using this device ,Is it posse you could help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sailor ST (talk • contribs) 23:49, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Special:Diff/10000

Hey Oshwah, just to let you know this revision is irrelevant to me right now. I want you to give me a PHP code that access the MySQL database to permanently delete this diff as a database entry from the database, even expunges information from oversighters. 154.5.169.5 (talk) 00:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Do you own a sledge hammer? There's always the "backup plan"... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:08, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Labrador Retriever Edit

Hey, you undid an edit of mine on the Labrador Retriever Wiki under the guise of "Unexplained Removal". I did remove content however it was content that I had accidentally pasted whilst adding a section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NikolasJordan (talk • contribs) 00:15, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

NikolasJordan - Yup, you're right. I didin't see that previous edit, and my reversion stiked both of them - please accept my apologies and thank you for undoing that and fixing the article :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:18, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Merchandise Giveaway Nomination - Successful

Hey Oshwah

You have been successfully nominated to receive a free t-shirt from the Wikimedia Foundation through our Merchandise Giveaway program (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Merchandise_giveaways). Congratulations and thank you for your hard work!

Please email us at merchandisegiveawaywikimedia.org and we will send you full details on how to accept your free shirt.

Thanks! Seddon (WMF) (talk) 00:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Seddon (WMF) - AWESOME!!! Thank you very much! That's really cool! I'll get in touch with you for sure... I appreciate it :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:43, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Source in "List of Mayors of Gotham City'

Hi Oshwah. You said that I needed a source to add an information to this article. I do not have a source on the internet to add to that page. But I saw what edited at a stage in the game "Batman Arkham Asylum". How can I add this as a source? It is on the own game. Michael md14 (talk) 01:40, 6 June 2018 (UTC)Michael_md14

Michael md14 - Disregard what I said... that doesn't need a reference. I'm putting it back for you... sorry for removing it and for bothering you. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:15, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Kingdom of Sycamore

Block user or delete page? The user keeps removing speedy deletion tags. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - I just left the user a final warning and restored the CSD tag manuallly. We need to make sure to warn users for behavior (even if somewhat blatant) so that they have a chance to read it and stop. That being said, Will actively monitor the page for continued disruption. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Nevermind; I see that you've already left one earlier... this user is on his final straw and he'll be blocked if he does it again... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Whelp, that didn't last long..... Oh well, I tried.... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:12, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

 Thanks Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:33, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

You Got Mail!

Please check your email. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:19, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Just received and replied. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:21, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Read the reply. Thanks!Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Haven't received it yet, but will do so when I do. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:29, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I didn't respond to the email.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:33, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh, well then I guess I'm going gonna get one... thanks jetk :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:33, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I don't know if I'm ruining the joke (probably I am), but just for the sake of clarity, Read the reply. Thanks! -- read is pronounced red, not reed... Past-tense read. Cap'n Obvious to the rescue again. =) I'll show myself out. byteflush _Talk 00:17, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Kate Spade protection

Hi. Can you please unprotect the Kate Spade article? I looked through the page history and I don't see any BLP violations that warrant page protection. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:33, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

MZMcBride -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! The article has been quickly re-protected due to a set of trolls, I guess, though. Sigh. --MZMcBride (talk) 15:17, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hey

Here, have a random kitten. :P (It's been a while, though that's my fault not yours. Hope you've been doing well?)

AddWittyNameHere (talk) 03:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

AddWittyNameHere! Hey man! Good to see you, and thanks for the kitten. Hey, sometime we need to take a break when life happens or life get busy. Welcome back! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:37, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Yup. Slightly over a year absence was a fair bit longer than I'd intended, though. Been back for a few days now, figured I'd say hi. How's the vandal-fighting (and admining, of course) these days--you still as ridiculously fast & equally busy as always?

P.S. No need to ping me, by the way. It's totally not like your user talk is constantly near the top of the most recently edited pages on my watchlist or anything...nah, that'd be silly. (In all honesty: your user talk occasionally outpaces AN+ANI...) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 03:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I *think* you may have missed my reply above in the middle of the other edits to your talkpage. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 04:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

Hello. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:44, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Received and replied. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:47, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Richard

I think someone vandalized this article...Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:49, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Why do you think this? Looks okay to me... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Ah shoot, I looked at the wrong section that's why (Silly me)Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:52, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

No worries; it happens to all of us ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Pending changes

Do I need to leave a user warning for every nonconstructive pending change I revert?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Warn users for disruption regardless if the edit awaits review or if it's automatically accepted. The only difference between a pending edit awaiting review and an accepted edit (or normal edit) is that only logged in users can see the changes live on the article while they awaiting review. Declining the pending changes is the same as reverting the edits. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:58, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Upage

Can you please check my userpage to make sure it doesn't violate the guidelines? (Sorry for bothering you)Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:56, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Your user page is fine. I don't see anything wrong... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:58, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Block

Block this IP pls, he keeps adding † to articles next to names --> Special:Contributions/180.190.54.143. Thanks. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:40, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - That doesn't mean that this is vandalism. The user is adding symbols to lists, which will actually help to clarify the data being expressed... Looks good faith to me... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:43, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm then what is the use of the †s? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:45, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Check out this list article, where both * and † symbols are used in the list to signify that there's more information to read. The cross is also typically used instead of asterisks to do the same thing - it's just a symbol and it's by preference. Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:48, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I've seen them before, but the articles which the IP added † symbols does not state what † refer to. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:51, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

He just might not have added that part yet. You could always leave a message on their user talk page and ask if they need help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:52, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

He's already back

As soon as you blocked TheClashTrollStrikesBack (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), the same sock puppeteer showed up at Talk:Suspiria (2018 film) as TwoOneFourNine (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). DarkKnight2149 04:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Darkknight2149 - Thanks for letting me know about this. The user is blocked :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:56, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Screw you

Use control C to copy not control X. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:57, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

But they're right next to each other! Cut me a break, mannnnn!!! :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

{{u|Abelmoschus Esculentus}} Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 05:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I just type in the formatting manually... (or... I copypasta it). I'm too used to doing it the old-school way... haha ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Lol... I use {{yo|Oshwah}}. You should too. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 05:02, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

No subject

Oh, sorry! I thought she died. Somebody has spreaded it on social media, so I thought that it was true. GoldCoast2 (talk) 09:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

GoldCoast2 - Thanks for leaving me a message here about the edit you made. You really need to take a moment ans review Wikipedia's policies regarding articles that are biographies of living people. Any content you add or change on these articles require that a reliable source is provided and cited in-line with that content. Failing to do this is violates this policy, which is taken very seriously on Wikipedia.

The deaths of famous people have been successfully hoaxed before and in cases where the "attacker or mastermind" of had control of their online accounts and/or had the ability to convince many people that it was true. This is the reason that we require that you provide sources that are independent of the person, are peer reviewed and scrutinized and that provide their evidence, and are written by people who have no personal conflict of interest with the person. It guarantees that the information we add or update on articles of living people are true. Wikipedia has been the center of internet and media attention in the past because we failed to enforce this policy and it resulted in having contentious, libelous, false, and hoaxed information about a living person added to an article and presented as factual and encyclopedic information... not good (lol). We cannot have this happen.

That being said, don't worry about it... you didn't know about this policy and I know that you're new here. Mistakes are normal and they're expected to happen. Just keep this policy in mind with all of your future edits, learn from this, and don't repeat the problem ;-). Violation of this policy is a big deal - especially if it's done by a user that;s been warned before or has been here long enough to clearly know better. Anyways... thanks for leaving me this message here and I hope you have a great day :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Suspected Sock

Oshwah, First, thanks for your help on everything recently. Second, I saw you recently blocked SwedenAviator as a sock without going through a full SPI (presumably a sock of Sycamore111). I strongly suspect HM Daniel 111 is in the same boat here, creating nearly identical content on the Kingdom of Sycamore. Is this something I should take to SPI, or is it obvious enough to ask be handled by you, the blocking admin? Thank you in advance for your help! MarginalCost (talk) 11:40, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi MarginalCost! Yes, let's go and create an SPI case if this socking is going to be ongoing (which I'd say is pretty certain). If anything, we'll be adding these accounts into the SPI archive to document it. Thanks for creating that SPI case, and please don't hesitate to message me if you run into any questions or need help with doing so. thanks again and cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:43, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I created Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SwedenAviator. I requested CheckUser, though with account creation blocked on both accounts, I don't know if it will do much good. When would one not request a Checkuser in a SPI? Also, I didn't see any instructions about notifying the affected parties, is that right? I appreciate your help in all this! MarginalCost (talk) 14:14, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

My edit of Michael Bielický

Dear Oshwah,

there were 29 footnotes added to my edit - how are catalogues and books published by renovated German and international Art institutes from 1988 to 2017 (listed below) classified as a non-reliable source?

In anticipation of Your answer, thank You for Your time and consideration,

MPhilMediaArt (talk) 12:17, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

List of footnotes

Paul Heinrich Klotz, Ursula Anna Frohne (Eds). Kunst der Gegenwart (Exhibition on occasion of the 1997 Grand Opening of the ZKM, Centre for Media and Arts in Karlsruhe). Munich, New York, Prestel. 1997. pp. 54–55. ISBN 3791318357. Susanne Rennert, Stephan von Wiese (Hrsg.). Students of Paik: 1978 – 95, video dreams. Düsseldorf, Kunstmuseum im Ehrenhof. 1996. S. 22ff und S. 132. MedienOperative (Hrsg.), Micky Kwella, Jörg Himstedt (Rd.). VideoFilmFest ’88 des 18. Internationalen Forums des jungen Films. Berlin, Internationales Forum des jungen Films. 1988. S. 19. Michael Bielicky – Four Seasons. LIMA website. Retrieved 27. Juni 2017. MedienOperative (Hrsg.), Micky Kwella, Jörg Himstedt (Rd.). VideoFilmFest ’88 des 18. Internationalen Forums des jungen Films. Berlin, Internationales Forum des jungen Films. 1988. S. 19. Michael Bielicky – Perpetuum Mobile. LIMA website. Retrieved 27. Juni 2017. Petra Unnützer (Hg.). 3. Videonale : 11. - 16.9.1988. Bonn, Videonale. 1988. S. 53. Michael Bielicky - Next Year in Jerusalem. LIMA website. Retrieved 27. Juni 2017. Dario Ghanai. Videonale 5. Bonn, Videonale. 1992. S.110. Michael Bielicky - Golem Is Alive. LIMA website. Retrieved 27. Juni 2017. Karl Gerbel, Peter Weibel (Hrsg.). Die Welt von innen, Endo & Nano (Ars Electronica 92). Linz, Veritas-Verlag. 1992. S. 126 ff. Jennifer Hansen-Glucklich. Holocaust memory reframed: museums and the challenges of representation. New Brunswick, NJ, Rutgers University Press. 2014. pp. 178-180. ISBN 9780813563237. Ginette Major (Ed.). Images du futur '91: 31 mai - 22 septembre, cité des arts et des Nouvelles technologies de Montréal. 1991. p. 18. Axel Klepsch (Hg), Vilém Flusser, Nam June Paik (Autors). Discover European Video: Anthology Film Archives, New York November 17-November 25, 1990. Düsseldorf, 1990. S. 11, 46. Wendelin Renn (Hg.). "Schirm-Herrschaft" Video Kunst: 27. Juni bis 25. Juli 1993, Städtische Galerie Lovis-Kabinett Villingen-Schwenningen. Villingen-Schwenningen [u.a.], Städtische Galerie [u.a.]. 1993. S. 16. Freunde der Deutschen Kinemathek e.V. (Ulrich Gregor, Peter B. Schumann) (Hrsg.). 17. Internationales Forum des jungen Films. Berlin, Felgentreff & Goebel. 1987. S. 58. Christoph Blase (Hg.). 40jahrevideokunst.de - Teil 2. Ostfildern, Hatje Cantz. 2010. S. 86 ff, 411 ff. Karl Gerbel, Peter Weibel. (Ed.): Exhibition Catalogue: Ars Electronica 95: Mythos Information. Welcome to the Wired World. Springer, Vienna. 1995. pp. 214 ff. ISBN 9783791318691 Davina Jackson. SuperLux, Smart Light Art, Design & Architecture for Cities. Thames & Hudson. 2015. pp. 92 ff. ISBN 9780500343043 Nikolai Molok, Peter Weibel. (Hrsg.) 4th Moscow biennale of contemporary art : 23.09.2011 - 30.10.2011. Moscow, Institute of Contemporary Art. 2011. S. 45 ff. Hans Belting, Andrea Buddensieg, Peter Weibel (Hrsg.). The global contemporary and the rise of new art worlds. Cambridge, MIT Press. 2013. S. 328 ff. Michael Bielicky - Garden of Error and Decay. Official Vimeo. Retrieved 27. Juni 2017. Manfred Schneckenburger (Hg.), Lichtsicht die vierte: Projektions-Biennale Bad Rothenfelde, 27. September 2013 bis 5. Januar 2014. Bönen, Kettler. 2013. S. 28 ff. Lichtsicht gGmbH (Hrsg.), Lichtsicht die Vierte: Projektions-Biennale Bad Rothenfelde, 29. September 2017 bis 28. Januar 2018. Bönen, Kettler. 2017. S. 22 ff. Michael Bielicky - Lost Objects. Official Prague National Theatre Site. Retrieved 14. August 2017. Dimitri Konstantinidis. e.city Prague 2016. Strasbourg, Apollonia. pp. 38-51. ISBN 9782918640059. Michael Bielicky - Lost. Official Vimeo. Retrieved 27. Juni 2017. Michael Bielicky - Lost. Official Vimeo. Retrieved 27. Juni 2017. Hannes Leopoldseder, Christine Schöpf (Eds.). Cyberarts 2000: International Compendium Prix Ars Electronica. Springer. 2000. Pp. 88-89. ISBN 3211834982

MPhilMediaArt - Please disregard; the edit I made was not intentional was was meant for someone else's edit, not yours. I've restored the edits you made back to the article, removed the notice left on your user talk page, and I apologize for the mistake and for the confusion I may have caused. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help. Thanks for letting me know about this, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

~Oshwah~^(talk) - Thank You so much for Your reconsideration and great help. Please have a fantastic time! ^^ MPhilMediaArt —Preceding undated comment added 12:48, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I was adding more facts.

Things I added to the page, State Highways in Vermont, are facts and predictions. I found out that I-189 is the only auxiliary Interstate in Vermont. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:3007:2B00:AB00:B91C:95A3:E6D4:484F (talk) 14:03, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Did you see Oshwah's edit summary? Read WP:CS and WP:RS. Thanks. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:09, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hey

Hey Oshwah you reverted my edit .This is Kevin Gorman's face on your body Oshwah

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.242.138.63 (talk) 14:48, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

User:Danger High Voltage. Keep Out

Could you please block this obvious sock? (w/ talkpage access disabled). Thanks. 186.91.112.180 (talk) 15:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Already blocked. General Ization ^Talk 15:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I just saw that as I posted this here. :-) 186.91.112.180 (talk) 15:29, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Page question

Hey Oshwah. Page moving question .I aw Here is Kevin Gorman's face on Oshwah's body . LULZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.120.34.241 (talk) 17:28, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Zuhayb hussein FDC

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 17:56, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Cahk -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:58, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Nicole van den Hurk edits

I don't understand why you categorized my changes on the Nicole van den Hurk page as "not constructive."

The first two sentences: "Nicole van den Hurk was born on 4 July 1980 in Erkelenz, Germany. Her biological father was married to another woman, and she moved to the Netherlands with her mother and Dutch stepfather at a young age." are grammatically incorrect to a degree that causes ambiguity and confusion.

With no prior reference to a woman who contrasts "another woman," the sentence seems to be saying that Nicole's father was married to a woman other than Nicole.

A smaller concern is that the "...she moved to..." is unclear as well; "she" could be referring to the woman Nicole's father was actually married to, Nicole herself, or the implied mother of Nicole.

My changes were small but removed the ambiguity.

LetsEditThat (talk) 18:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I agree. LetsEditThat's edit was made in good faith and so I have removed the warning. Oshwah, I’d just like to remind you to be careful and always check an edit (which I know you do do most of the time) before rollbacking it. Thanks and regards, Linguist^unEins^uno (Linguist111) 19:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Linguist111 - Thank you for removing the warning, and yes I agree - I dun goof'd that one... :-/ ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:18, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi LetsEditThat, and thanks for leaving me a message and for explaining the edit you made. I misread the change and thought that it was yet another editor making a "your mom" edit to an article to disrupt it. This is obviously not the case, and I owe you my apologies for the stupidity on my part. It looks like someone has already removed the notice I left (which they were absolutely correct by doing so), and I'll be happy to restore the change you made if it hasn't already been done. Please forgive my bone headed action to your edit, and please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns or if I can assist with anything and I'll be more than happy to do so. Thanks for leaving me a message and for letting me know about the edit and what it was actually doing, and I hope you have a great rest of your day :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:17, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I understand, I’ve made similar mistakes in the past. No worries . Linguist^unEins^uno (Linguist111) 19:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Oshwah and Linguist111. Thank you for the review and consideration! I appreciate you taking the additional time on this edit. Sorry for what's probably going to be poor formatting on this reply -- I haven't quite learned the structure of these Talk pages. I'll go look for some documentation so I can figure out how to use these correctly. :) Thanks! LetsEditThat (talk) 12:23, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

TinyURL

Why did you undo me? How is it not constructive to change past tense to present for something 10 years old? How is it not constructive to explain what a URL's destination is? 208.95.51.38 (talk) 9:09, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here about the edit. Oh God damnit... what the hell is going on? I just made some modifications to my confirmation files and I think something causing a revert by me to trigger on your edit.. because I didn't do this on purpose. For the record, your edit makes complete sense and there would be absolutely no reason to interpret your edit as otherwise... I'm sorry for the accidental revert and for the frustration that it caused. I'm going to need to rollback the things I changed, because it might be causing problems... :-/ ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the response! I'm glad you didn't do this on purpose :^D 208.95.51.38 (talk) 20:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thank you for bringing it to my attention so that I was aware and could work to help resolve it :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:09, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

User Agboolar06

Hi Oshwah, as much as I did the reverts, I think users should be warned that using multiple accounts is against policy before they are blocked. Just saying! Cheers, Mahveotm (talk) 21:10, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mahveotm and thank you for leaving me this message and for expressing your concerns and your honest thoughts with me. My talk page is always open to you and you're welcome to message me any time you need or wish to talk about something. I'll always treat your messages, requests, or your thoughts or opinions with respect and regardless of my personal thoughts or whether or not I agree with them. In this situation, I'd actually be inclined to agree with you in this situation but to an extent. However, taking the edit timestamps, and looking into account logs and other information - it all provides a clear line of events as well as clear intentions. The user knew that what he was doing was disruptive. That being said, I left blocking notices on both accounts which provide instructions for the user to file an unblock request if they wish to. Again, I really appreciate your honest input here; please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help and discuss them. I hope you have a great rest of your day and I wish you happy editing ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:12, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Renaming

Hey Oshwah, I see that you blocked Natureium wished he was killed a while ago. I asked at Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple‎ for the username to be changed, but my request was removed. Do you know where I should go for this? Thanks, Natureium (talk) 22:44, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Natureium, it's good to talk to you again! Is there a specific reason why we need to put time and energy into renaming this account? We typically block these accounts and (if the username is grossly threatening, offensive, libelous, or a breach of one's privacy) the logs and relevant revisions and text are redacted... but ff we've done everything right and unless the user decides to appeal their block, abuse their talk page, whatever ... we generally want to move on and avoid allocating any time or energy toward these blocked troll accounts or users. Please let me know what's going on and why, and I'll be happy to help and get it taken care of.

To answer the "why" portion of your question: The big emphasis and reason behind all of this is to understand that WP:DENY goes beyond just ignoring the gouges and stabs that trolls make and to not feed them - but also to the level where we don't give them any more of our time, energy, and emotions than what's required, and that also applies for accounts after they're blocked, too... If that means that we don't put each sock we find on a list or on the LTA page, we IAR some admin policies to invoke WP:DENY so that their edits and "troll stuff" disappear, and we decline renaming some accounts because well... "what's the point?" - we invoke WP:DENY in many aspects and areas and in order to make sure that trolls get as little of our time and energy as possible and that they get close to nothing out of what they're doing...

Let me know what's going on and I'll see what I can do. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:08, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

If it's going to be a big hassle, don't worry about it. I just got tired of seeing it whenever there's a field my username autocompletes in and wondering what this person is angry at me for. Natureium (talk) 23:14, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Natureium - I see, and this falls under an attack username - so I'm going to redact all of the username logs and that should.... should...... fix that for you. One moment... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:16, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Natureium - Okay, all of the logs are redacted and you shouldn't see any logs at all involving this account. Does that resolve the issue for you? If not, the next step is for me to take it up my personal chain of command... don't worry, I'll get it removed if that's what we gotta do ;-)... just let me know - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:20, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for your help! PS. "Personal chain of command" sounds like you are a one-man military. Natureium (talk) 23:24, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Natureium - Awesome! I'm happy that fixed the problem! Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can do anything else for you, and I'll be happy to help. Until we meet again ;-) ... 23:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

/* External links */

Hi this is regarding the external link for Payments bank article Aditya birla payments bank is one of the few banks that got license from RBI and is operational. there are no links referring about it. I was unsure where to add it. can you pls guide me how should I go about including adityabirla payments as part of the payments banks of India? www.aditybirla.bank

best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasidharv (talk • contribs) 23:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thought that my account was lost!

Hi Oshwah,

This is about your blocking my recent attempt to change my account name. I have managed to find the password of my original account (I thought that my real account password was lost, but it was not lost after all, yay!), so this is not top priority.

It's maybe a long story, and I'm not sure if I need the new account name anyway, but please see the page User:SpectrographUK where I've put in an appeal against the block.

I may only need some explanation of why it should have been blocked after all. The main point of the appeal is to establish that there was no intention to do anything wrong, and to try to understand what types of user names are desireable, for future reference. Createangelos (talk) 02:57, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Createangelos! Thanks for leaving me a message here, and I apologize for the delay responding to you here. You were given a soft block on your other account due to your username, so creating a new account (or in your case here, recovering access to your original account) was the solution and what we were encouraging you to do ;-). Since you've recovered your original account and can log into it now, just start using this account from now on and don't worry about the other one - in fact, treat it as if it doesn't exist. What I'll do for you is go ahead and convert the user and user talk pages on your other account to simply redirect to this one. Then everything will be pointing to one place. "Createangelos" doesn't appear to come back as the name of any organizations, groups, or websites - but if that's what the username is supposed to be, just file a request to have it changed by following the directions listed here and it won't be treated like a big deal at all they'll rename the account for you no problem. You will also want take the opportunity to verify an email address on this account or update it if it's not verified with your current one. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. It's excellent news that you were able to recover your account, and I'm happy you got it back :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:38, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, that is a lot of information! Thanks, and I'm trying to decode it. There is no need to rescue anything from SpectrographUK, the issue is purely emotional/ethical. I hadn't started using it, and my real account Createangelos is safe and recovered. There is currently still an appeal about it after all, a user had just moved my text from the user page to the talk page, and I will most likely discontinue the appeal. The emotional issue is that I identify with the username spectrograph, and it was like a slap in the face to be told something isn't good about it. Even if someone thought it has to do with my website spectrograph.uk, that name I chose also for the same reason. It has to do with a concept of detecting pollution, investigating contamination, things like that. As I mention, if someone thought that the name pre-existing on my website was promotional, it would be promoting something like Wikipedia, because the website is client-side javascript, anyone can download it and keep it forever, there is not an ownership issue. I feel emotionally like someone had challenged me, saying 'what do you think you're doing, you are being selfish.' I no longer need the new username, but having it run into troubles or be considered promotional has affected me in an irrational way. I don't think I see any issue of principle here.

Anyway, I'm currently trying to understand the part of your explanation where you say "file a request to have it changed by following the directions listed here". Are you saying that if I actually wanted to change 'Createangelos' to 'SpectrographUK' I could do it by following those directions? I don't think that I want to do that, but rather I feel the confusing need to respond to whatever bot has challenged me and accused me of being promotional. Sorry if this makes little sense. I don't think I actually want to use SpectrographUK instead of Createangelos, now that I've recovered the account, but can you please try to explain what happened and why the name SpectrographUK was blocked, so that I understand it better? Most likely I will just delete my appeal when I understand things.

Now it looks like the accounts are correctly linked. Ignore my comments, and I'll try to figure out what is taking place. I am just confused on technical matters I think. Createangelos (talk) 09:50, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Createangelos - Meh...there really isn't much to have to understand. I just edited your user and user talk pages on your other account and changed them to point people automatically to your user pages on this account if they were to go and visit your old one. That's really all that I did... ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:08, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Should I or do I need to delete the appeal about 'SpectrographUK'? (another user wrote to me to say he'd moved it to the talk page of SpectrographUK. Is it sitting there causing problems for people and needs to be deleted? )Createangelos (talk) 10:15, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Createangelos - Here's what happened in a nutshell from my perspective: The username you chose for the other account, 'SpectrographUK', comes back as a website domain and what looks to be the name of an organization. This is against Wikipedia's username policy as usernames must represent you as an individual, and can't be a company name or of a group, etc. An admin blocked that account but only applied a soft block, which allows you to create a new account with an appropriate username or get the username changed. You made an unblock request that had a HUGE amount of text that you wrote, and then eventually were able to get logged into your original account. All I did was change the user and user talk pages to point to your main account's pages automatically. Don't worry about that account any more; treat it as if you never created it and just use this account. There's nothing else that you need to worry about with the block or anything... just use this account and go about your normal day as you did before. That's pretty much it - I took care of everything and it's all in the past now :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:28, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Copyvio on Jon Mack (actress)

Jon Mack (actress). Page created by a blocked sock of a blocked undisclosed paid editor, recently updated with a copy-vio by Xerox2025, almost certainly another (not yet blocked) sock. Could you please revdel the appropriate revisions (if not outright delete-and-salt the page, that is)? AddWittyNameHere (talk) 01:37, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Investigating... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:40, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

AddWittyNameHere - All done. I've reverted the (second) copyvio that same user added and after your removal of the first, rev del'd the revisions needed, and I've warned the user about COPYVIOs. Thanks for letting me know about the problem, and let me know if I can help with anything else. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:43, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

You hid my revision as well even though it didn't actually contain the copy-vio but eh, no big deal there. I personally tend to not warn what are really blatant socks of editors absolutely not interested in following Wikipedia's rules--and I'd say an editor managing to, within six minutes of registering, edit promotional copyvio content into an article obscure enough to average <10 views a day that was created by a proven sock of a UDP-editor is about equally subtle as evaders naming their account I'm_[blockeduser]_unblock_me. XD But I suppose in this case, warning them does no harm either--I'm just more used to dealing with trolls/vandals than UDP-farms. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 01:54, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

AddWittyNameHere - I fixed the revision you were talking about above and unredacted the revision text; thanks for the heads up ;-). I'll leave warnings for most things, even if I have strong suspicions of sock puppetry and the like. If anything, those warnings can be helpful later if a user manages to get us hooked into an "edge case" where we can't outright justify socking, but they've repeatedly caused other bits of disruption. The warnings both give the user a chance to stop the behavior, and (more importantly) it documents the behavior and the occurrence - this makes applying a block more justifiable later if the user has multiple warnings left and hence multiple chances to stop. Otherwise, it'll look like we just outright blocked the dude and we have diffs or "paperwork" to show that we gave them fair chances to improve. This obviously doesn't apply in cases of LTA behaviors or socking; once I discover a sock puppet ring of accounts, I immediately shut it down ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:09, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Makes sense. Like I said, I'm more used to trolls/vandals and similar such cases, where not feeding them is pretty major--plus they tend to be obvious enough there's not much need for documentation on the individual-account level. LTA patterns and such, sure, but not what each separate account did. But yes, I can see how it'd be useful for edge cases and the likes. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 02:15, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Changing my focus a bit

Hi Oshwah, I just wanna let you know that I will try to create articles (list here) and will not be active fighting vandalism. (I may if I'm bored XD) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:04, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Awesome! I hope you enjoy the changes you've made with how you contribute to the project, that you gain experience and learn well from this area of participation, and that you meet your objectives and achieve your goals and accomplish that you set for yourself. Recent changes patrolling and disruption cleanup will be there should you want to return. The new changes feed and the need for patollers aren't going anywhere soon... there'll be plenty of disruption to go around ;-). I wish you good luck and I wish you happy editing! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:20, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

 Thanks. I will do my best! ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:29, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Removed content on Armani Page

Hi Oshwah, the removed content were just promotional links of online shops without any meaningful content or resource character. Did you restore them? If so, please remove them. Next time ill add information why I did make a change. Please excuse my mistake. Im still new but keen to contribute. Best, Alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexisjst (talk • contribs) 13:17, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

block evasion

see Special:contribs/Eliza-Pancakes L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:42, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

L293D - Oh yeah... no question. Makes my job easy when they do that... lol. User is indef'd. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:44, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Wow, that was awsomely quick!!! L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

You might want to indef Special:block/Pancakealize. L293D (☎ • ✎) 14:02, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

And Special:Contributions/Basketball_professional too. clearly a sock VOA. L293D (☎ • ✎) 14:07, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

L293D -  Done,  Done, and -  Done! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:16, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

ILYA

Hello Oshwah, I have never edited this site before and not yet sure what you have removed? I am the singer of ILYA and so had added links that I felt were important for people to go and hear what we are now doing. Especially on Patreon and in Bandcamp. But I think I had better go and see what you changed first. Or you can tell me what you changed and why? Thank you. Joanna — Preceding unsigned comment added by JojoSwan (talk • contribs) 14:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

JojoSwan - Please see Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest. You should avoid adding content that you have personal involvement with or personal conflicts of interest with. If information needs updating on these pages, you should create an edit request instead. This will allow another user to review your proposed changes and make those edits for you (assuming no problems are found). Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

No subject

Who are you?

What do you know about catalytic converters?

What authority do you have to edit technical info in wiki?

Revision hidden requeston [REDACTED - Oshwah].

I am requesting [[REDACTED - Oshwah] this] revision to be hidden from the public archives as it contains disrupted material. Thanks, Iggy (Swan) 16:28, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Iggy the Swan - I'm not sure if you provided the diff of the correct revision that you actually wanted rev del'd or not... can you check the one that I redacted and let me know? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:37, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes that was the correct one. Iggy (Swan) 16:39, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Iggy the Swan - Without going into details (since you already know what was said) - we would normally decline applying redaction to an edit that only said something like that. Heck, I get that told to me at least five times a day by trolls... however, I went ahead and applied it for you nonetheless. Does something like that really bother you that much? Why have this redacted? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:45, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

That was something I didn't like to see all the time, plus that latest comment above implies I learn something new every day. Iggy (Swan) 16:48, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Iggy the Swan - No worries, and thanks for letting me know. I don't mind doing it since it was made on your user talk page. I don't think people are going to go up in arms about it if it's something that you find purely disruptive and that you requested it. Just keep that in mind, because you would find many (if not most) admins telling you that the diff you provided doesn't fall under RD3. Oh well... either way, I took care of your request and you're all set. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:54, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Just a question, why do you keep redacting the revdel requests? Since the content is redacted, then we can't see it, and anyway, admins can still see the requests as they can see deleted content. L293D (☎ • ✎) 17:02, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

L293D - Because revision deletion requests generally should be emailed or submitted using non-public means. I might not always be fast with performing the actual redaction, and leaving the links and locations available allows users to quickly navigate to and view the revision details before it gets handled. For all I know, the diff might be pointing to a revision with content that really really needs to go and extremely urgently. It happens here on occasion, which is why I treat all rev del requests here as if they were pointing to something to that level of sensitivity and urgency. It's my way of doing every I possibly can in order to keep you (or any editor in this situation) safe and protected, and the potential exposure of the information is as low as possible. TL;DR I DO IT BECAUSE I LOVE YOU... A LOT! :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:14, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mujhideen101

Hi Oshwah,

When you get a chance, could you look into this SPI? I saw that you had warned User:F0tnit for their disruptive edits to Shaheen Asmayee F.C., and after looking at the history of that article as well as Afghan Premier League (which they have edited both articles before), it actually looks like some other accounts with similar looking edits (and usernames) had previously been reverted and blocked as socks of the above master. The two accounts currently listed at the SPI as well as previous socks in the SPI archive history for this case have a habit of marking all of their edits as being "minor" as well as using very similar edit summaries. Thanks. 116.101.111.225 (talk) 16:44, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Sure, I can take a look... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking those accounts. Could you also place a long-term semi protection on Afghan Premier League, similarly to what you did for Shaheen Asmayee F.C.? Thanks again. 119.17.193.5 (talk) 18:32, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Sure,  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:34, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

IP

Hi Oshwah, Just seen your comment on AIV,

You will see here the IP has been blocked 4 times within a space of a month and 5 just over that month ... so to file an AN3 report each time this IP returns would be extremely time consuming,
Ofcourse had this been a new IP then I would but when it's the same IP returning week after week or month after month doing the exact same thing it makes life easier if they're reported and blocked instead of the cycle of - Report at AN3 > Wait a few days > Blocked - Doing the latter would also mean more reverting as like today they would return and revert you which again is time consuming so doing it my way makes life a lot sweeter and certainly a simpler :),

Sorry not moaning just wanted to explain :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 17:06, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Davey2010! No worries and no need to apologize... you know that you're welcome here any time and to voice concerns or disagreements openly - you won't hurt my feelings ;-). Ohhh, I see what happened... the IP user just went about their business and continued with their shenanigans after I had warned the user and said that we should wait. Yeah..... looking at this AIV report and from the other side of the glass, I agree that I should have handled it in a more aggressive manner and that all the signs were there indicating this. I appreciate you for leaving me a message here and for voicing your concerns and your honest thoughts... it's very helpful to me to hear feedback from others, and they also help me to see things with clearer eyes and apply these things moving forward. So, thank you... I'll definitely keep this case in mind and will apply this moving forward :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:31, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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Alright, I'll check it now... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - Received and taken care of, thank you! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:46, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt response! - BilCat (talk) 17:51, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Gina ford article

Hello Oshwah Thanks for checking out my content on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Ford

You mentioned you deleted th content - is there a copy of it in the history, or did you save a copy before you deleted it? I don't have a copy.

You might not have noticed but I did actually include a citation for both quotes - it was in the body of the text and not in the proper format because the citation function in Wikipedia isn't working for me. I was hoping a nice moderator might help me by putting it into the right format or looking into why the citation tool was not working, rather than just deleting the lot :) I did try to include this in the message before publishing but this field was not allowing me to enter text... Any ideas why? I'm using an iPad, is that bad?

Thanks JarkahJarkhah (talk) 18:01, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jarkhah! I apologize! I see that you did provide sources in your subsequent edits - I've restored the content you added for you. I must've only seen the first edit and didn't see the subsequent two. Please let me know if I can do anything else for you. Again, I sincerely apologize for not noticing this. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:08, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Shreya Ghoshal ‎

A suspected sock is persistently doing disruptive editing on Shreya Ghoshal. Initially I have reported him here [1] for writing his own Wikipedia and then here [2] for sock puppetry but he does not rest at all. Kishfan (talk) 08:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Kishfan! It looks like the page has been protected now - did the reported users get taken care of? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes the matter is resolved now. Regards.-Kishfan (talk) 23:30, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Kishfan - Cool deal; thanks for letting me know :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:31, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome.Kishfan (talk) 23:32, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Pamella Bordes

What is going on here? Fireandice423 (talk · contribs) is not talking. Did leave an interesting message in User:Fireandice423/sandbox Jim1138 (talk) 09:34, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Fireandice423! You might have to ask Jim1138 or Shellwood directly about why your changes were rolled back. This will result in the answer you're looking for :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

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Iran protection

Hey Oshwah, this came up at AN when doing the review of whether Lebanon was under ARBPIA3. ArbCom recently clarified that the Iran-Israel dispute doesn’t automatically fall under ARBPIA, and there was a recent AE that held Iran out of scope because it is not an Arab country (don’t have a link but I can find it if you want to look). I think it makes sense to remove the ECP in light of that ARCA and the current review of country level ECPs of Jordan and Lebanon. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:02, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

TonyBallioni - Ah, good call. Thanks for sharing this - yes, go for it ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:44, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

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209.52.88.0/24

I always vandalize under the network via tethering, would you block this range for a month? (May to June 2018 warnings). You know, those 2017 and 2016 warnings? These people, who I don't know, got these warnings and are irrelevant to me. However, the relevant warnings were from me. In fact, some, made by me, got declined AfC submission. Check the block log for each IPv4 address in the range. Some blocks are relevant, some are not, and one (or a few extra which I don't know) got declined unblock requests. These people probably got a new IP address. 209.52.88.122 (talk) 20:03, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Please create an account to avoid confusion, Thanks. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:05, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I'm going to have to disagree with the previous editor, since the comment sounds almost like an order. Creating an account on Wikipedia is optional. It may be beneficial, but is in no way required - IP editors are people, just like those of us who have a registered account.

However, in this specific case, I'm not sure what's your complaint. Draft:Mail_link has been rejected for an obvious reason - it's not an encyclopaedia article. Furthermore, please elaborate on the I always vandalize under the network via tethering thing. It may have been a badly formulated sentence, but I'm curious. byteflush _Talk 05:15, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

ByteflushI didn't mean that sentence in a forced way. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:37, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

By the way I didn't "see" the Ip's first sentence when I read it before. ... Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:38, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Umm this is quite an interesting confession and request... you "always vandalize under the network via tethering"? I think that you mean that you always see vandalism occurring under this range by others via tethering? Either way, blocks must be used in a preventative measure, and as of the time of this writing I cannot do this, since there isn't active disruption going on from this range. If you're receiving irrelevant warnings under this IP range for disruption that others are causing, creating an account and using it to edit will resolve this issue. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:55, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Possible to work on protected article ("Jair Bolsonaro")?

Hi! Over the past few weeks I've been working on the English Wikipedia article "Jair Bolsonaro" by (slowly) translating sections of the much longer Portuguese article on him. I think you recently made the English article "protected" because of an ongoing edit war between a couple of other users, that I'm not involved in. Is there some way I can continue to work on this article, despite its protected status? I'd like to continue translating the full Portuguese article (I think the original is pretty good - detailed, well-sourced, objective) - and I think it's important a more detailed and comprehensive version exist in English as well.

Flaubert1965 (talk) 23:31, 9 June 2018 (UTC)Flaubert1965

@Flaubert1965: You can make edit requests on Talk:Jair Bolsonaro. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:30, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Cibolo, TX

I was wondering if I can get your help or advice. I am fairly new to Wikipedia, but have been the major editor for the Cibolo, Texas wikipedia page over the last year or so. I am contacting you as I saw that you edited it and/or protected the Cibolo article on 5 June 2018.

Anyway, I have added lots of great information in various areas and aspects of Cibolo. However, there is one account that keeps deleting what I wrote because it puts her in a bad light. (The account owner, I assume is the former mayor of Cibolo or someone very close to her. I say this as there is other information that one could view as negative, but that does not go away, only the stuff that is written about the former mayor.) I have documented and referenced all my writing with the appropriate sources. That brings me to my issues.

Just recently, user Sro23 performed a "full revert to last clean version prior to disruption" and to me, the novice wikipedia user, sees all the information as gone. Is there an easy way to restore the information, or shall I go back in and retype it all?

Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide!

CiboloBuffalo (talk) 05:18, 10 June 2018 (UTC)CiboloBuffalo

Hi CiboloBuffalo, and thanks for leaving me a message with your questions and concerns. All revisions and changes made to every page can be viewed by looking at the article's history page - nothing removed is permanently gone and can easily be restored (so you don't need to retype anything). The article was protected due to observing ongoing edit warring and an obvious content dispute between editors - this behavior is disruptive and I needed to put a stop to it. Have you made an edit request to have this content added to the article? This is what you should do if you haven't done so - it will allow another editor to review your proposed changes and add it to the article (assuming no problems are found). If you have a dispute with another editor over the content and this person keeps removing what you're adding, you need to follow Wikipedia's dispute resolution protocol and discuss the changes on the article's talk page with this user. Start a new discussion and make sure to ping that user so (s)he is notified and can participate. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Shahed Ali

Mr Osman,

With all respect, I don't think the names of all our family members- our profession whereabouts and including children's and grandchildren's should be on display like this. I have had fraudulent letters from scammers who had been trying to blackmail me after finding some photos of my relatives on Australian Instagram. It took me a while to find out how they connected me with them. Please keep my mother's name and write that we are six siblings- all educated and independent. That should be enough. No names and professions, please I hope you understand. I don't have much connection with my nephews and nieces and I can't be blackmailed for their behavior on the net.

Otherwise, your work is good and I thank you for making the Wiki for my father, I know you meant well, but the world is becoming very small and you have to be careful about our integrity. There are other things on the page which can be improved to make it update. For example, a good photo of Abba and more facts about his parents and education.

My email is <<redacted >>if you would please like to contact me?

Best wishes, Dilruba Z. Ara — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.113.125.166 (talk) 08:42, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) I guess he means this RV. Content later removed. @213.113.125.166:, we prefer to conduct discussions transparently, on wiki. Ironic that you should c/o privacy issues and then post your email. Posting one's email is never a good idea. Offending content was removed. Totally confused by the blackmail remark,-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 10:57, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Dlohcierekim is correct (see above) - discussions need to remain on Wikipedia. Dlohcierekim redacted the email address that you added here for your safety and privacy. If you have concerns with privacy, disclosing your contact information is never a good idea. It looks like the content in question has been removed, so I believe your concerns should now be resolved. If you have other questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message and I wish you a good rest of your day. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:07, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Chris Sandow (rugby league)

Hello there, Oshwah.

I’ve noticed that the Chris Sandow (rugby league) Wikipedia page has come in for somewhat a slight bit of disruptive editing as of late.

Now, I’d love to give the page a complete ‘head to toe’ edit, with everything looking as close to perfect as possible, because at the moment it’s slightly untidy.

But I’m reluctant, like I’ve said it appears to be the target of childish, silly and just plain stupid edits from people, mainly anonymous users that are just trying to be disruptive.

Is there any reasonable cause to ban persistent anonymous users' IP addresses and that of registered users, if they continue to be disruptive?

Thanks a lot,

ScottJohnSexton. ScottJohnSexton (talk) 19:18, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi ScottJohnSexton! Thanks for leaving me a message with your questions and concerns. Don't worry about disruptive editing and vandalism by other users. If this happens, revert the disruption and go about your business. If it occurs repeatedly by the same user, report the user to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism and we'll take care of it. Vandalism and other disruption is very easy to undo and revert; don't let yourself think that you can't or shouldn't improve an article and improve Wikipedia just because of the potential for disruption. Your good work is never truly gone and can easily be restored from the article's history page. If you run into any more questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to message me and let me know. I'll be more than happy to help you with anything that you need. I just took a look at the article's history page and it looks like you've been doing a lot of work on the article - excellent! Thanks for helping to improve the article! Your work is very much appreciated! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:17, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Please help Mongolian Beef

That user is always ignoring whether he is using which Wikipedia, and he always comments in a mixture of Chinese and English in Chinese Wikipedia, and creates a lot of . I guess he also makes conflicts here, so please help for always reminding him, many thanks. Sænmōsà 02:52, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Deleting unreliable sources is not "creating conflicts". And no, I did not "make conflicts" here.--Mongolian Beef (talk) 06:35, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Mongolian Beef: However, you are still banned by a bureaucrat there. You shall look at previous talk and look at the consensus made in . I don't really think taht you are a good user, maybe I shall use "typical" to describe you. (Of course, I am also typical, and I don't have many edits here, but it cannot represent anything.) Sænmōsà 07:30, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

• @Oshwah: Please also see the edit summary of Special:diff/839522838, it lacks civilization. Sænmōsà 07:45, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Said the guy who was blocked multiple times on Chinese Wikipedia for using sockpuppets (the latest being 6 months). I don't know how you can accuse a user with a blank block log being a bad user while having multiple block record yourself. That's more "typical", am I right? :) --Mongolian Beef (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Mongolian Beef, please note that "Civility is part of Wikipedia's code of conduct and one of its five pillars", from WP:CIVIL, thanks.---Wikaviani (talk) 08:40, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Sanmosa - The ban you're talking about - whether or not it's true - has nothing to do with the English Wikipedia. I don't understand what you mean when you say that Mongolian Beef is creating "conflicts", and I see that the ANI discussion you opened about Mongolian Beef was quickly closed. If there's a content dispute or disagreement on the article, you and Mongolian Beef need to discuss this on the article's talk page and follow Wikipedia's dispute resolution protocol. Mongolian Beef, let's keep edit summaries civil and refrain from adding rude or uncivil edit summaries - they're only going to exacerbate the situation and make things worse, not better :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:24, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

your email

i need a wiki page article done. whats your email id — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.32.193.94 (talk) 08:17, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't create articles for other users like this and for many reasons. Why not create an account, go through Wikipedia's new user tutorial, and use Wikipedia's articles for creation help page to create the article yourself? :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:28, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Just for you....

"The Hair Follicle Award"

If after relentless challenges by editors who just don't appreciate your hairstyle, or how you've managed to keep it all by exercising unrelenting restraint despite the frustration...you deserve recognition. Your hair must be as thick as the skin on the I didn't hear thats; obviously the result of healthy hair follicles. Next time an editor finds your hair "object able" - and the likelihood of it happening again is high as long as you're an admin - drink a cold beer 🍺, eat some dark chocolate 🍪, and consider buying stock in Rogaine. Atsme📞📧 16:42, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

HAHA! Thank you for the kind award, Atsme - that made me laugh :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Your recent edit

Hello, sorry to bother you, but I have recently made an edit here, which you reverted today. I believe the revert wasn't necessary - what I have added was a person's Twitch.tv page, which, for the streamers (including this person), also acts as a traditional "personal website" (they often include personal information on it, as well as links to their other social media/contact information).Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 22:16, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom! My goal when editing the article was simply to clean up and remove unneeded and unreferenced content - I didn't think the link was necessary, but I could have very well been wrong. No problem - thanks for putting it back :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:24, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I thought and I already corrected it, so no problem ;-) And thanks for adding a protection to this article - it really needed that.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 01:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom - Oh yeah, it definitely did ;-). Thanks for letting me know about the link removal and for fixing it, and don't hesitate to message me if you need anything. I'll be happy to help. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

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Received and replied. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:49, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Revdel

If you go way back on [REDACTED - Oshwah] can you revdel [REDACTED - Oshwah]?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 23:38, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Sure, can you email me the diffs where the information was added and removed from both pages? That's a lot of edits to go through and look for... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:42, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

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If this notification is about a reply you made to an email thread you started previous, there's no need to leave another notification (unless it's urgent - in that case, say so). Just leave a new email notification if you're starting a brand new email thread or conversation ;-). I'll take a look at my inbox shortly... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for protecting SoundCloud rap

One question. Can small=yes be changed to small=no? I would like to invite editors more clearly to come to talk page. (so they would also see the list of artists that have already been declined) I'm not sure if I'm allowed to make that change myself. Alexis Jazz (talk) 23:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Alexis Jazz! That's completely fine - go ahead and change it if you think it'll help draw discussion on the article's talk page. Let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else and I'll be happy to help. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:38, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. At least part of the edits made by IP users seem to be in good faith (but that doesn't make them any less disruptive), so their suggestions are welcome on the talk page. The protection wasn't so much for real vandalism but more because it felt like a few experienced editors were babysitting a dozen IP users who kept climbing out of their playpen. Alexis Jazz (talk) 01:01, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz - No problem; even edits made in good faith can become disruptive if they're repeated by someone and no efforts to listen and try and learn or improve are being made. It's good that you're making the effort to side on good faith by assumption and to try and make things easier for those that are doing so - keep up the good work :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

You Got Mail!

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Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:09, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Echoing the same response as I made above to your last email notification (if this is what you're notifying me of) ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:32, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

NopeThegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:33, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

I responded to your email. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Revdel

Can you revdel [REDACTED - Oshwah]?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - You need to email rev del requests to me privately. Don't post them here and in public where others will be drawn to it and can then go read what you're talking about. Sure, I'll take a look. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Can you check a email I sent you?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Just did; see reply. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

The recent revisions on that page have been redacted. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:27, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Dirty Bomb page

Hey, ranked mode is no more since prelast update, also there is wrong information about release. Game was not released yet. It public beta version — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.235.186.189 (talk) 01:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Your removal of content wasn't proper, nor did you cite any reliable sources in-line that verified your changes to be accurate and true, and that this portion of the game is no longer available. Instead of removing the content entirely, it should remain on the article and instead be worded in a historical manner. Then, at the end of the section, add details that state that the mode was once available but was then removed and with reliable sources cited in-line with the content. If you need help with this, refer to the two links I provided here in this response. If you still have questions after reading through those guideline pages, let me know and I'll be happy to answer your questions and help you. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Societe de transport de l'Outaouais

I was trying to edit the CEO for the Societe de transport de l'Outaouais. Giles Carpentier is no longer the president of the STO it's now Myriam Nadeau

and I have reliable sources here (if you know a little bit of french)

https://www.gatineau.ca/portail/default.aspx?p=la_ville/conseil_municipal/district_11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZoNVhATQdo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.101.131.204 (talk) 02:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! You just need to cite your references in-line with your changes. Once you do this, your edit will be a big improvement compared to your previous ones (that didn't cite references at all). Refer to the link I provided here for help with doing this. If you have any more questions after reviewing the guideline page I linked you, let me know and I'll be happy to help. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:11, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks, taken care of. Oh, and unless the message must be kept private (rev del requests, personal information, things like that)... they can generally just be asked here. You didn't need to email me privately about this matter ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Yea, Sorry!Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:26, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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Replied, and for the record this didn't need to be an email. Messages like these can be left here on my user talk page ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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Replied, and for the record this didn't need to be an email. Messages like these can be left here on my user talk page ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

I am very sorry Oshwah.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - No apologies are needed :-). It's just easier for me to respond publicly to messages here than through email. Plus, messages that don't require privacy should be make on Wikipedia by principle... it's how we're supposed to discuss things by default. Other users and admins won't be able to offer assistance or chime in with their knowledge of a possible issue if things aren't discussed publicly ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:43, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you for your Help! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:27, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - No problem; it's what I'm here to do :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Sock?

18:15, 14 June 2018 User account Peter1169 (talk | contribs) was created by Katsuracutlery (talk | contribs) (Blocked username) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Never mindThegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:00, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Nope, that account creation is fine. The parent account was soft-blocked due to their username. They were just following instructions and creating another account :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:03, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Just realized after I posted this post on your talk page. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Did you get my ping?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Question

Can admins block admins?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Yes, that has happened already. Even at least once in the past week. byteflush _Talk 03:11, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

I post too much on Oshwah's talk page.... (not saying Rev Del is bad By the way) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: And now I'm doing that too. =) Seriously, no, what I posted on your talk page is, as I said, just an FYI if you need something RevDel'd quickly, along with more info on types of RevDel, what you should do about them, etc. Oshwah is a very friendly admin, and he can speak for himself, but I don't think you're annoying him. However, I guess an admin already has a lot to do, so in order for the burden of administrative tasks to be split - in my opinion, it's better to look for some other venue where the first admin that notices the problem (or a question) can react. As I mentioned before - this is Oshwah's talk page, he can answer this himself, I'm just stating my view - which could (of course) be wrong. =) byteflush _Talk 03:23, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Byteflush - Indeed. It was a very recent ArbCom case as well ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:16, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Yes, admins can block any account - including other admins. Admins can also unblock themselves, but it is disallowed per policy if the block was applied by another admin. It would result in a removal of admin rights if someone did that - no question about it. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:15, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Thegooduser: you can find more standard permissions in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/refs/changes/79/432279/1/includes/DefaultSettings.php. If you search that page for "unblockself" you will see some permissions sysops have like ipblock-exempt and editprotected. Note that Wikipedia or any other wiki can have a somewhat different configuration. Alexis Jazz (talk) 03:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

On the subject of admins and being IP block exempt: note that admins only have a subset of those rights - editing from Tor exit nodes require the torunblocked right, which is only included in the IP block exemption group. It is not included with the Administrator or Bot user groups automatically. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding archive bot

Hello, sorry to bother you again, I was trying to add a bot to archive a talk page with extremely old (and not useful anymore, based on their content) posts. Basically I set it to archive anything older than 90 days. Not sure if I set it up correctly, so if you (or anyone else) have time - I'd appreciate if you'd check to see if everything is correct.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 03:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Looks fine to me (though, a second opinion would be useful). MiszaBot usually archives around midnight-2am UTC, so that's when we'll know. =)

Edit: I have tweaked the settings a bit - it should always leave 3 threads, and I upped the timing to 120 days, since it's not such a frequently-edited talk page. Feel free to change those, though. byteflush _Talk 03:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom - Byteflush is correct. This bot only runs once every 24 hours and will perform the archiving task for you at that time. It doesn't automatically detect when posts grow past the given age and then archive them immediately; that would cost a ridiculous amount of server resources if that were allowed or supported.... lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thank you both for answering and yea, the corrected settings look to be better than what I originally set it to.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 03:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:55, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding a reference citation

Hi Oshwah, how do I add a citation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.35.15.11 (talk) 04:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

(by talk reader) See WP:CITE. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message with your question. See this guideline page for in-depth information on how to do this. In a nutshell, you'll add <ref></ref> tags on each side of what you are going to cite in-line as a reference and you'll do this next to the content you're adding to the article. You'll also want to read this section (as an example) where you can use a template inside of the ref tags to have the information that should be included in a reference formatted for you - this template formats a reference that is a web page. I went ahead and created example of how to add a reference for you below:

Example of adding a reference
<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.example.com/example_page|title="Example reference page title"|publisher=Example Publisher (name of company or site)|last=Last name of the publisher of reference|first=First name of the publisher of reference|date=Jan 1, 2005|accessdate=May 1, 2018}}</ref>

Again, you'll want to refer to that guideline page for the information you're looking for, but in a nutshell - it's not too bad. Let me know if you have any questions after reading through the page I linked you to above, and I'll be happy to answer them. I wish you a great rest of your day and happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Dr K.s ANI post

Thanks for tidying up the SPI and block notes for me, much appreciated! Yunshui ^雲_水 07:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Yunshui - You bet; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:17, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Mario's frangoulis birth year

Hi from Greece! The birth year change is based in the interview (in Greek) that I cited in which he definitely states that in his first role in Dec 1988 he was 23 years old and that his birthday is Dec 18.46.103.9.19 (talk) 08:00, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! I see that you've updated the article to include the reference - perfect! That's all that was needed! Thanks for doing that :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:02, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Revdel

Could you revdel from [3] to [4] as a cpvio of [5]  — FR ⁺ 08:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

FR30799386 -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Kaydollar Car Hire And Logistics Service Ltd

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 08:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Cahk -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

[[User talk:[REDACTED - Oshwah]]]

You may also want to revoke talk page access on this one.--Cahk (talk) 08:21, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Cahk -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Against providing false information about paswan

Hello sir, You have reverted my last edit about paswan. I was providing true information about paswan. Paswans are not untouchables they are only included in scheduled caste due to their poverty or illetracy. So please accept my changes on Paswan.SiddharthArya123210 (talk) 08:35, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

SiddharthArya123210 - I responded to your message that you left on Sitush's user talk page. The content you added to Paswan wasn't referenced by any sources, and the removal of your changes was justified. You've been warned for edit warring and repeatedly adding unreferenced content; this behavior is disruptive. You should discuss the changes on the article's talk page. I highly recommend that you review the notices that have been left on your user talk page, review the policies and guidelines that these warnings reference, and make sure that you understand them. If you have questions after reviewing these policy / guideline pages, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:40, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, yeah, you made this edit on Paswan : [6], but provided no source for it. Regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 08:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Yo stop changing my post

Bro stop changing my edit.... Red is not an official color of vista high school. Dont believe me read the almamater painted in the gym. It clearly starts off with "all hail the black and white" red is at best an alternate color. The only reason it was adopted was because of the coach dick hanes which the stadium is now named after. He adopted Nebraska football almost in its entirety from the offensive and defensive playbook to the jerseys he even stole there motto "go big red" the reason he did the color change was to revamp the gailing program into a new era. I know waaaaaaaaaaay more than you when it comes to this so please stop jerking me around. I would cite all this info but wiki wont let me post the websites. Go do some research ig you dont believe me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.115.236.168 (talk) 09:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Before you run at people with guns blazing like this (lol), all you need to do is find a reliable source that will verify that your changes are true and accurate and cite it in-line with your edit. If you do this, you'll be set to go. Give these pages a read and let me know if you have any questions. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hardly guns blazing

If i went in trying to be malicious or guns blazing I would have called you burnt or a pleb or captain autismo but i didn't. All i said was stop changing my post and if you dont believe me do the research. Pretty harmless dawg... Anyways I'm over trying to change it at this point. Since ur admin account is connected to this page im assuming ur an alumni. I could be wrong but I doubt it. That being said you shoukd know ur alma mater — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.115.236.168 (talk) 09:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Uhh nope... I've never been to that school at all :-). Like I said above; all you need to do is reference a source with your changes and you'll be all set. The burden of proof lies with the user who is adding or modifying the content, not the user who is removing or undoing the changes and asking for a reference. If you need help, let me know and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:47, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the thanks. :) Recently just started using Twinkle. TheConnorMan (talk) 09:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

TheConnorMan - No problem! Awesome - keep up the excellent work! Your time and work doesn't go unnoticed and it's appreciated here! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:55, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Here is your source

www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-prep-football-north-county-football-changed-2010sep02-story,amp.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.115.236.168 (talk) 12:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Great - I've made the edit for you here. This is what you were supposed to do (add the URL as a reference per this guideline page), and why your previous edits were reverted - you didn't support the change with a source. All fixed now! Thanks for following up with me and for working with me to improve the article :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:17, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Mongolian Beef again, not because of articles

See the edit summary of Special:diff/845951369, it is totally offensive and rude. Sænmōsà 14:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

• Please also delete the edit summary of Special:diff/839522838, with the same reason. Sænmōsà 14:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• Minor note: he was already blocked because of the same reason. Sænmōsà 14:09, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Sanmosa - I agree that many of Mongolian Beef's edit summaries toward you on his user talk page are a bit uncivil, but why not just respect his wishes and just leave the guy alone? Why do you need to persistently report the uncivil comments and keep pressing on about it? The ANI report you opened yesterday was closed shortly afterwards, and I'm sure is just adding more fuel to the fire between you two. The edit summaries you listed do not qualify for revision deletion and cannot be removed. What is all of this about and what exactly would you like to see happen? (I'm not asking rhetorically here; I'd actually like to know). Don't get me wrong: I'm a big proponent of civility and being respectful to one another, and I've applied civility blocks where other admins have backed away.... but I think if you just allowed the stick to drop, yourself to let it go, and just moved on from this that things will resume as they were before and there's nothing to worry or stress about :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:57, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

If we respect his "wishes of uncivil", it harms the five pillars of Wikipedia. Sænmōsà 15:02, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Maybe I shall use a word to describe the "respect": Appeasement policy. Sænmōsà 15:11, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Why I complained Mongolian Beef (if you really want to know): He refused to communicate with me just because my block log in Chinese Wikipedia, but I corrected myself for a long time, and I just want to have some typical communication and notification. It is just a simple idea, but a serious case. Sænmōsà 15:13, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Sanmosa - Please read this response I made to your message on Wikaviani's user talk page. You need drop the stick and move on, please. Wikipedia is not a battleground and it is not about winning; behavioral discussions should be about what's best for the project and what should be done in order to keep the peace and keep the focus toward this goal - your message on Wikaviani's talk page clearly shows that this is not the primary focus. It's getting to the point where your inability to let this go is becoming just as disruptive as the edit summaries that Mongolian Beef made toward you - that's not good. Please take a moment, allow yourself to calm any emotions, step away for a bit if you need to, work on a different project or area, anything... just give yourself a fair opportunity to think about this logically. You'll realize that my responses are correct if you do... I hope you understand and that you take my advice :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Sanmosa - I saw your response on Wikaviani's user talk page. I'm glad to see that you're allowing yourself to step away, cool down, and take a moment to let emotions settle :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Also, if it makes you feel better, I left a message on Mongolian Beef's and talked to the user about their edit summaries and asked him to tone it down. They were indeed not in compliance with Wikipedia's civility policy, but my main focus at the time was also to calm you down as well - so keep that in mind, too :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:34, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

User:TrainingWave4/sandbox.

It was U5-- looks like a training script for customer service.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:38, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/TrainingWave4 blocked for not here-- looks like they were using wikipedia to online host a training seminar.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:40, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Dlohcierekim - Yeah, I realized that this was the case later... I got sidetracked and I forgot to redact the response I made to AIV... my apologies for that. Thanks for leaving me a message and for following up nonetheless. Looks like a good call to me :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

No problem we are all intensely over worked, rushed and work-stressed. A t least I get that way.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Dlohcierekim - Everyone does, and those who say that they don't are big fat LIARS! :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:43, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

reply

Fair enough. It's my fault that I am too used to the standards of "civility" of sites I usually lurk on like Reddit or Twitch. From now on I will try to be "civilized" by your and not make it difficult for you as long as he leaves me alone.

BTW don't you think he have been kind of "stalky" towards me? I had no disputes with him before this, which was months ago, yet he brought up the dispute I had with another unrelated editor from Chinese to English Wikipedia. And both of his ANIs against me (I still don't understand why he started the first one) were swiftly closed. If he does not stop I will consider abandoning this account as I don't want to waste more time on this.--Mongolian Beef (talk) 16:54, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mongolian Beef! I appreciate you for taking the time to get back to me here and for being open about your thoughts about what's been going on between you and Sanmosa ... lol. It's fine, and I completely understand being used to how people act on Reddit, Twitch, 4chan, other sites... Just know that civility is a big thing here, and (understandably) as hard as it can be during frustrating situations to keep your cool, remain respectful, be nice, all that stuff... it's actually what is going to help make frustrating events and disputes get resolved quicker and easier. I can say based off of my years of experience being here - you'll find being a dick hole to others here (I meant that in general lol - I wasn't calling you a 'dick hole') will draw more attention to you; it adds more to the frustration and only draws the processes and discussions out and makes them take longer... basically it has the opposite effect :-). No worries though... you replied here and it sounds like you understand this now; there's no need for me to tell you what now already know, and we can consider the uncivil edit summaries as part of the past ;-).

Nah, there's no need to consider abandoning your account or anything like that. I know that you are both native speakers of both Chinese and English, so it's not uncommon for users to bump into one another across more than one project. I bump into the same administrators here as I do on the Wikimedia Commons, Meta, many other places - it's normal. That being said, I will say that Sanmosa went wayyyy overboard with his/her repeated efforts and attempts to discuss those edit summaries you made and that it went on longer than it should have. The discussions (s)he added today showed that (s)he was dead set on having you blocked or punished and that it was more about "winning" than benefiting the project. This is why I stepped in and told Sanmosa that his/her repeated discussions were becoming just as disruptive as what she was reporting and I asked him/her to stop, drop the stick, and move on. To Sanmosa's credit - he/she read my responses, agreed that it was going too far, and did exactly that. I know you're frustrated with this user, but I have to give credit where it's due... listening, agreeing, and actually stopping as they were asked to do is becoming a increasingly rare thing to see editors do around here. That was extremely good on his/her part to make that realization. I don't think you have anything to worry about and I doubt that this will continue. Just keep civil toward everyone at all times, and you'll be fine. If, however, it does continue - please let me know and I'll be happy to step in and put an end to it.

You both have been given clear expectations (you need to be civil and respectful when you talk to others here, and Sanmosa needs to drop the stick in regards to your edit summaries and move on peacefully). Just follow through with yours and regardless of what happens and what Sanmosa (or anyone else) does, and I'll make sure that you don't feel harassed or hounded. If you have questions, concerns, or need anything else - just let me know and I'll be happy to help. Thanks again for the response and for talking to me openly - it's much appreciated and it really REALLY makes my job here A LOT easier! Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

David Zolkwer

You might want to take a look at the entire revision history of David Zolkwer. There is something peculiar I want to address. If you scroll through the article's revision history, you'll notice over 20 suspicious red username accounts with their contributions solely to said article. I'm pretty sure what he is doing is illegitimate and violates WP:SOCK, so I'm suspecting either sock puppetry or meatpuppetry by Zolkwer (talk · contribs). Furthermore, he's been doing this since 2009 and this has gone unnoticed since, so you might want to get a CU to investigate that. —Thanks. 100.2.98.246 (talk) 19:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh yeah, this page is familiar... I remember looking through the history of this page earlier in the day. I started going through each user and looking for similar edits to see if I could gather any evidence, and (as you can imagine) I got sidetracked with a handful of other wiki things that I had to take care of ;-). I'll do some more digging today and I'll see what I find. Thanks for bringing this up; it does need a look-through to determine what might be going on... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, that'll be great. 100.2.98.246 (talk) 19:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

The Nerdist podcast and Chris Hardwick

Here is my source. There are others as well https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/chris-hardwick-scrubbed-nerdist-website-pending-further-investigation-175339555.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.1.70.210 (talk • contribs)

Hi there! Have you read Wikipedia's guide to citing references in-line with content? It's good that you found sources; you're halfway there! You just need to review and learn how to take that reference and add it as a source. I actually provided someone help with the exact same thing you're needing to do just recently, and it would provide you with the exact same help. See the conversation by clicking here (note the response I made as well as the example I added). You'll still want to review that guide I linked, but that response will also be of help as well. If you have any more questions or need help after reading through that guideline page, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:53, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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Received and replied :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:49, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

JamescharlesFORREAL

Soft block?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 19:49, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - What's the concern with this username that you believe deserves a block exactly? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

He's James Charles (model)Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't block this account immediately unless their edits suggest that they're claiming to be this person, otherwise yes I would if the edits indicate so. "James Charles" is a very common name for people to have, so I don't block usernames if they match a famous person unless the name is rare or unique (i.e. Barrack Obama, Harrison Ford, other names you don't commonly see), or the implication is extremely strong that they're trying to claim that they're the famous person. An example is a block I did somewhat recently where the username similar to "BillNyeTheScienceGuy" - that is an example where there's no question that this person is unambiguously claiming to be Bill Nye. Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:45, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Admin

Can You refer me to an admin on Wikimedia Commons and the Simple English Wikipedia? Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:07, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Check out this list and this list. Those will give you who are administrators at each project ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

User:Wilhelm von grundwasser

Check content on userpage?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:10, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Yup, a clear self-admission of being blocked or banned in the past - good catch. The user has been blocked for this ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Wesley Johnson (basketball)

Hey Oshwah, thanks for the revert of the IP. I'm on my mobile so I'm not as fast. Would you mind protecting the page? You did back in May but vandals are back again. I request protection on RFPP but since you're active and have reverted vandalism already I thought I'd appeal to you. Thanks! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:58, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi HickoryOughtShirt?4! I'm keeping active eyes on the article right now. I'm going to see if the vandalism continues first before I protect it. I want to see if this user has control of more ranges than what I just blocked, and leaving the page open will allow me to easily identify and handle it. Afterwards, yup that's the plan... semi protect the page ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:01, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

It was G5 as well as G10. DuncanHill (talk) 00:15, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

DuncanHill - Yeeeuppp... I just realized that after seeing the edit made by OhIContravene and blocking the user as a sock :-). Do you know who the master account or LTA this user is? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:16, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, it's Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/RJCola. I seem to have upset the poor thing! DuncanHill (talk) 00:17, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

DuncanHill - Oh joy! Welcome to my world! Usually the socks and LTA users come after me ;-). I'll do my best to keep eyes out on recent changes and take care of this little debacle for you. If you spot one that I haven't caught, just message me here and I'll zap em ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, there are a few other admins and other editors on the look out too. DuncanHill (talk) 00:26, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

DuncanHill - Excellent. I've seen a few other RJCola socks get zapped earlier today, so I can verify that they are ;-). No problem; always happy to help! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:28, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Did you restore the creation protection when you changed the deletion reason? DuncanHill (talk) 00:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

DuncanHill - That draft page (Draft:Duncan Hill) was never salted. I'd actually advise leaving it unsalted for now so that it's easy for additional socks to re-create it. Then I can just add it back later. It lets me keep an eye on it, and block any sock quickly once they go to create it. I'll leave it up to you, though - what would you like me to do? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:37, 16 June 2018 (UTC) Nooooooope I was totally wrong there. It was salted... my bad :-/

HogiesStillSuck (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). DuncanHill (talk) 02:28, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Service Awards

What's the limit of service awards one can display on their userpage?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:24, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - There is none. Nobody is going to come running after you because you have 1, 4, 12, whatever number of service awards on your user page... and if they do, well... they should think about their priorities and choose their battles. There are much bigger issues going on and significantly bigger fish to try than someone who puts too many awards on their page... lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

How much of your talk page is messages from me? Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

23%. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm joking; I actually have no idea.... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:56, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

The reason why "23 percent" (More like 60%) of your talk page is messages if from me is because, You are my Favourite Administrator on the English Wikipedia. (Yes I also like all the other admins) ;-) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

HA! Thanks man! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:00, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

I also trust you as an admin on the English Wikipedia. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:02, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Well, shit I'd hope so! lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:03, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

I made a request for rollback rights, can you grant me or deny me? Thanks!Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:06, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

I handled your rollback permissions request. Give it a read and let me know if you have any questions. TL;DR - not yet. You're doing good work, but you're not proficient in the important areas yet... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

About 34% of the topics on this talk page are form me...Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Recall Oshwah 2018! Natureium (talk) 02:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Mabye Oshwah should take over my talk page and I take over his... lolThegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Natureium - Aww, what'd I do to deserve in order to be recalled? :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:34, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Don't know, it just seemed like fun to start a campaign. Natureium (talk) 02:40, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Start one against... SQL (lol). He's lonely and he would love the attention :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Sounds like more of a TonyBallioni thing I think. SQL^{Query me!} 02:48, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Nah, haven’t you heard? We’re deleting Newyorkbrad this week.​ TonyBallioni (talk) 02:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah and Thegooduser: Thegooduser has made 228 edits to this page and is second to you , You have clocked in a whopping 7668 edits on this page  ! Kpgjhpjm 02:11, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

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Responded and taken care of. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:18, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Your valued input on my talkpage

You wrote: You legitimately tried your best to respectfully explain the situation to Harmony944 and help him on his user talk page, and I give you major props for sticking through the accusations and heated replies and continuing to try and diffuse the situation... seriously. What you did was awesome. Sometimes people don't want to be helped... if the user doesn't want to listen, then I'd say go about your business, stick to policy (obviously you don't want to edit war or cause disruption yourself), and if they edit war again - they'll just wind up blocked again... It sucks to have to put it this way, but sometimes it's what has to happen. Keep up the great work, and do know that your civility and how you remained calm throughout the discussion are a huge asset to this project. Cheers :-)

Your input is deeply valued and nailed hook, line and sinker. In amenability to your sage advice, I throw up my arms proverbially and withdraw from further attempts at reasoning with User "Harmony." LOL! Your props and stamp of approval on my efforts at reasoning with him are greatly embraced. EXACTLY as you so sagely put it, sometimes people just don't want to be helped and quite frankly can't be helped to save their life. At this point, it's like talking to a brick wall, and it's time to go about my business, stick to policy and let them seal their own fate. I embrace you for extending your wealth of wisdom, commonsense and sage advice. Cheers :-) 2605:A000:4641:6000:E54D:96B3:56AF:D13A (talk) 02:50, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Hey man! Good to hear back from you! I appreciate the kind response and I'm happy to hear that my message gave you a sense of reason and helped you to challenge your thinking, take a step back, and realize that you're just wasting your time completely. I've been there numerous times in my years of being here; it's frustrating, disappointing, almost sad in a way whem you make that realization... Just know that you did an amazing job trying to help Harmony944, and it's definitely something you should never stop trying to do for others. Unfortunately, there comes a point where "the writing is clearly on the wall" and your time and energy allocating your excellent logic, reasoning, assistance, and communication skills are just being wasted and nothing is going to change no matter how much you try. Just take 2-3 minutes and skim over the user's talk page from top to bottom and you'll see what I'm talking about. I see nothing but combative and argumentative replies when others have talked to him about their behaviors and disruption, accusations of "character assassination", "harassment", and "de-legitimization" being thrown back at others when they only try to leave feedback and offer to help, and unfounded challenges at the letter, tooth, nail, and technicality of Wikipedia policies when they're told that they're violating them. You're doing yourself a huge favor by realizing that the user clearly does not want to be helped and letting yourself walk away... it will save you time, energy, and frustration... if they don't want to take advantage of your skills and experience and help better themselves, fine. Spend your time with someone who will. Wikipedia is a busy place; don't let yourself get stuck or bogged down with users who are only going to waste your time ;-). I hope you're doing well and that you keep up the excellent work. If you need my input or my assistance with anything, please don't hesitate to message me and let me know - I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

didn't mean to erase everything — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.227.102.55 (talk) 03:57, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protection of Jehovah's Witnesses

Thanks for the semi-protection of Jehovah's Witnesses. Given that disruptive editing at the article is frequent and on-going rather than just a recent flurry, would it be possible to have it protected for a longer period, ideally indefinitely?--Jeffro77 (talk) 04:46, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jeffro77, and thanks for leaving me a message here! I hope you're having a good Friday :-). I'm completely open to extending the protection on the article no problem. I typically start by applying protection with a short duration first, and then I increase the duration it after it expires and the disruption clearly continues. I took a further look back, and I agree that one week of protection isn't going to cut it (in fact, I was certain that I protected it for at least a month... oh well...). I've increased the protection duration to six months. Let's take a look at the article in six months after the block expires, and if the disruption continues the way it was before - let me know and I'll add it again and make it longer. Thanks for the message and for expressing your concerns; I definitely didn't mean to apply such a short duration - not sure what happened. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:55, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Much appreciated. As you can see from the Protection log (and there's been a quite a lot of just tolerating it in-between), it's been an ongoing problem for years. :/ Thanks. :)--Jeffro77 (talk) 05:03, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Jeffro77 - Ohhh yeah. That's typical for articles like these. I just have to follow policy and show that these long duration of protection are justified and being made in a reactive measure. By adding a smaller duration and then throwing a longer one on once we see that it continues after the protection expires, we know for sure that we're doing the right thing and that we're resolving this issue in a logical manner. Please don't hesitate to message me here if you need my assistance with anything else - I'll be more than happy to help out and make sure any problems are taken care of. Thanks again for the messages! I hope you enjoy your evening. Until we meet again ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:06, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry

I' sirry For valdalizing neil cicierega wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Werkmklwejboq8u3g498659 (talk • contribs) 04:56, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Helene Li #Wiki4Women page ( you deleted it? )

Hi there, hey why did you delete the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helene_Li page? I'm adding notable women to Wikipedia as part of the Wiki + United Nations project world wide to "get more women into wikipedia" ( #Wiki4Women ) so I'm really confused as to why you've instantly deleted this page?

Can you let me know why you're going to be instantly deleting #Wiki4Women inclusion of women pages I'm planning to author? ( lots of them btw ).

What am I doing wrong that you're so unhappy with to delete my time and effort ;-)

Cheers, Dez — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dez blanchfield (talk • contribs) 05:17, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dez Blanchfield! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns. Have you read through Wikipedia's policies on speedy deletion (specifically, this criterion)? You'll also want to make sure that you review and understand Wikipedia's guidelines on notability as, these are what editors reference when tagging or nominating an article for deletion. If you have questions about these policies after reading through the guidelines I've listed, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:31, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi ~Oshwah~, yes of course I am across the various Wikipedia guidelines, this page was created as part of the #Wiki4Women project [https://en.unesco.org/feedback/wiki4women-world-contributory-movement], and Helen Li is noteable in her field, esp. for work around #Fintech and social investment projects / programmes - I'm confused by why she's not being considered as being worthy of being on Wikipedia for her work? What further information do you require to undelete this page? Thanks ~dez_blanchfield~

Dez Blanchfield - The article content failed to establish a credible claim of significance which is why it was deleted under A7 of the speedy deletion policy. Aside from this, are you sure that the intended article subject meets Wikipedia's guidelines on the notability of people? I sense that you're going to run into problems here in this regard, and I want to make sure that you check these things thoroughly before you begin creating the page so that you don't end up spending hours of time creating this article just to have it deleted per a discussion... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:49, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi again, I think I'm going to give up as this is going to be a huge waste of my time, I put 4x hours aside today and planned to do the same tomorrow to add Women Of Note to Wikipedia based on a range of public sources of reference as part of the Wikipdeia + United Nations #Wiki4Women project to get as many notable incredible amazing women added to the Wikipedia as I could in my spare time over the weekend - but I'm going to run into this issue where I am 100% sure I'm following the guidelines and clearly you don't think I am and so I'm going to just waste my time trying to support the UN #Wiki4women and Wikipedia gaining content from my time, so thanks anyway but you've 100% killed any enthusiasm I had for adding notable women from around the world to Wikipdeida sadly. I'm going to drop Jimmy an email and cc some friends at the UN who are part of this project to let them know that it's going to be a massive fail because of this as I can't imagine I'm any different to the thousands of others who are about to start creating pages like this only to find their time wasted over unclear decisions, as we'll just end up in an endless loop of me thinking I'm following the guidelines and you personally thinking I'm not and we clearly aren't going to end up with a middle of the road outcome resulting in notable women being added to Wikipedia - just proving the issue of diversity of including women in Wikipedia will continue unfortunately, thanks for your time, I'm really saddened by the outcome here which has just been a waste of your time and my time and ZERO new #Wiki4women pages added this weekend .. thanks anyway.. at least I get my weekend back ;-(

You might as well delete this image of Helene Li as well given this page will apparently never be allowed to be published to share Helene's great work with the world on Wikipedia as it will just be a lost file taking up disk space now => https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Profile_photo_of_Helene_Li.jpeg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dez blanchfield (talk • contribs) 06:02, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Dez blanchfield - Hold on... I'm doing something for you... stand by. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:03, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Dez blanchfield - I restored the article for you, but I've moved it to Draft:Helene Li. This will allow you the time to edit and expand the page and get input and approval before it's published to the mainspace as an article. I have concerns that you're going to have a hard time with getting the draft approved, but if this makes you feel better and this is what you'd like - I'm not going to stop you. Will this suffice for you? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:06, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

oh ok, thank you - I'll go do more homework to provide more information to validate that Helene Li is indeed worthy.

how do I collaborate with you going forward to avoid wasting your time, and mine, as I am keen to create many more #Wiki4women pages, but if they keep getting auto tagged for deletion then we'll both quickly go insane repeating this loop right ;-) is the Wikipedia team aware of the #Wiki4women project Jimmy and the UN / UNESCO are running for Womens Day globally to get more Women into the Wiki? if everyone around the world finds they add a new Woman of note to Wikipedia and then gets deleted instantly it's going to go very badly on social media when people start losing their minds about it ;-) what's the best way forward? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dez blanchfield (talk • contribs) 06:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Dez blanchfield - Don't worry about my time being wasted; you are not and you will not waste my time at all :-)... I'm here to help; it's part of my responsibilities here and it's never a waste of my time to make sure you're successful here. If you want to avoid creating articles and spending hours of time only to have it be for nothing and resulting in you being left disappointed and frustrated, I highly recommend that you make sure that you're proficient and understand the relevant policies and guidelines that involve creation and deletion, so that the article you create are notable enough to have their own page. I'd start by reading through this list of common article creation mistakes, then make sure that the subject meet's Wikpedia's guidelines for notability before you start creating the page - that's a big one right there... the article subject you create and write about must be notable, or else it'll just end up being deleted. Just make sure that the article meets the guidelines before you start writing it, and you'll save a significant amount of time and frustration. Please let me know if you have questions about Wikipedia's notability guidelines or any of the other pages I've linked you to, and I'll be happy to help you. Like I said, I'm here to help you and I'll do my best to make sure that your time here is successful. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

User:Thegooduser

Hi,Oshwah . Why did you change the visibility for this page ? Kpgjhpjm 07:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Kpgjhpjm - I can't discuss the details publicly, but the user disclosed information about themsevlves that they later removed and requested to have redacted. Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:30, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah: Ok , I am satisfied with that much information and thamks for commenting on the watchlist discussion on the talk page . Kpgjhpjm 08:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Kpgjhpjm - Sure, no problem at all. Let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. Happy Friday :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:55, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

You may want to block this user with a promotional username . Regards, Kpgjhpjm 08:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah: Any thoughts. Kpgjhpjm 09:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Kpgjhpjm -  Done. Sorry, didn't see your message until just now :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:08, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

endless

you might look at the edit history for birds and geology of tibet categories

Category:Birds_of_Tibet and other similar categories

- regardless of the correctness - the endless ip editing of these categories looks as though the categories need a level of protection perhaps? JarrahTree 09:17, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi JarrahTree! I apologize for the delay getting back to you here - I've been busy in real life and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails ;-). Did you still need assistance with this? Let me know; I'll be happy to help if you do. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:19, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

nah needs a good long look at the IP numbers that constantly change items to fit the mainland version of what fits where, no for the moment...JarrahTree 03:05, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

JarrahTree - Alright, thanks for letting me know. If things come up again, please don't hesitate to message me and I'll be happy to take a look. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:24, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Sock

Oshwah and dog  :)

Hi, Oshwah. Sorry to bother you with this, but I noticed you're online. I recently got into a content dispute with an editor, Kid-Cheick 11 (talk · contribs). The name rang a bell, so I ran it through the editor interaction analyser. It turned up these diffs: Cheick-Didier vs Kid-Cheick 11. It looks to me like a WP:DUCK, but I'd rather someone else uninvolved take a look at the evidence. I tried raising the issue on User talk:Kid-Cheick 11, but the editor doesn't seem to be very talkative, a similar issue I had with the first incarnation of Cheick. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:04, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate - No problem. I'm on it :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:07, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate - I took a look at the timeline of the edits between these two accounts, and nothing points to a violation of sock puppetry (even if we had 100% confirmation that they're the same person). The edits by Cheick-Didier stop in April 2018, and the edits by Kid-Cheick 11 begin in June 2018 - so there's no crossing of edits where I can say that any attempts to evade, avoid scrutiny, or appear as more than one person are occurring. For the record, I definitely agree that there's enough evidence (same exact edit by both accounts, same word in both usernames) to assert that these two accounts are operated by the same person - easily. But I'm not seeing violations here; it's appropriate for someone to stop editing on an account and start edit on another - they just can't abuse the accounts. Please let me know if you feel that I missed something that I should look at again, or if you have any questions or concerns - I'll be happy to offer a hand :-). Hope my response here helped some, and we'll speak again soon I'm sure ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

My concern would be a violation of WP:BADSOCK, namely "Contributing to the same page or discussion with multiple accounts". This is why I asked the sock to explain his connection to the master, which he chose not to do. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:27, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate - You are correct that the sock puppetry policy states that it does not allow multiple accounts to "contribut[e] to the same page or discussion", but you're only looking at part of the statement... the full statement is that multiple accounts cannot "contribut[e] to the same page or discussion in a way that suggests they are multiple people" - That's a very important and key thing to note here... In this case, the usernames are similar, the timeline of edits don't suggest violations of policy, and the two edits made to the same article were made 8 months apart and certainly not in a manner where they attempted to purposely deceive the community or imply that they were two different people. The attempt to act like you're two different people between your accounts in a deceptive manner is what this policy is disallowing by principle, not the fact that two accounts owned by the same person touched the same page... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:46, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Well, we disagree on this, but my frustration with this editor is one of reasons why I wanted an uninvolved admin to look at it. Thank you for taking the time to look. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:57, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate - If you don't mind, I'd actually like to discuss this further and figure out for sure if this policy is being read how it should be and if it applies here. I do think that the statement can be read either way, that it can be interpreted ambiguously, and this situation is a curious "edge case" where the two of us read it differently. Can we work together and find out what should be interpreted from this policy by spirit? I hate leaving a good and legitimate discussion of policy by saying "well we disagree" - especially given our experience here. Let me know; I'm curious to find this out and your help would be awesome :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:04, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Well, I think one can easily drift toward a less charitable interpretation of policy when frustrated; this is one reason why I asked. I think the accounts should have been clearly linked, especially if he was going to restart his genre warring in the same article, but it's not a big deal. It's not like the original account was under any sanctions. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:04, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate - Your analysis of the situation is logical and fair, and I agree. Let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be more than happy to do so. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:15, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) A user doesn't have to be under sanctions for a second account to violate policy. At a minimum, they should be required to explain why they created a second account. The only valid explanation I can think of is they forgot their password, but they have to be up-front about it. BTW, although no big surprise, the two accounts are  Confirmed to each other.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:18, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Bbb23 - I agree with your statements. However, I don't see any blockable offenses per WP:BADSOCK here. This could be a good faith situation (like you state above - the user could have just forgotten their password) and they probably just didn't know or understand that linking the two accounts was something they should do. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Helene Li

A tag has been placed on Helene Li requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Home Lander (talk) 14:16, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh yeah, good call. Deleted ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:17, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Ha, didn't even realize who Twinkle had notified. Home Lander (talk) 14:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

This happens with redirects and recreations mostly; it's not a big deal :-). Twinkle can only see live edits, so it just looks up whoever made the first edit to the page being tagged and assumes that this must be the original creator. Fun times :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:23, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Bot

How do I create a bot? 154.5.169.5 (talk) 14:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Seriously? Home Lander (talk) 14:34, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

@Thegooduser and Oshwah: Like... how? 154.5.169.5 (talk) 14:37, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

This page will show you the basics on how to do this. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:44, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

OK, on Wikipedia. 209.52.88.241 (talk) 17:29, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

changes in the article of Indus river treaty

Hi, I recently made changes in one of the articles. I tried to update the aritcle with new information, as well as I also tried to politically neutilize it. But somehow I couldn't input the references. It will be really nice if you can guide me about editing of the articles.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.227.235.67 (talk) 16:18, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your request for assistance! I apologize for the delay responding to you; I've been busy lately and I'm just now catching up with all of my messages here :-). What you're looking to do is explained on Wikipedia's guide to citing sources in-line with article text. This will show you how it's done, and give you good examples with how to do this properly as well as provide you with some templates that will save you time and make doing this very easy. If you have any more questions after reading through this guideline, let me know and I'll be happy to help you further. Good luck to you, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:23, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

User:ObagoStores

Spam account with promotional username and edit. May need to be blocked indef. 100.2.98.246 (talk) 19:01, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

 Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:02, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia user name issue

Hello, I've read your conversation with a certain user regarding article deletion, then went to that user's talk page in hopes to make a post to clarify the issue regarding "reliable sources" and such, which I did, but I noticed a certain issue with that user's name and especially talk pages. It seems like there are 2 different active accounts, one is "Dez_blanchfield" and another one is "Dez_Blanchfield". The difference is one letter, "B", being capital in one of these names. This for some reason confuses the mobile browser that I use on my smartphone and it seems like it confused some other editors, seeing as their posts appeared on talk page of "Dez_Blanchfield" (the username with capital letter "B") first then were re-posted on the talk page of "Dez_blanchfield". There's also a weird redirect happening, for example go to this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dez_blanchfield then click on "User page" tab, and you will be re-directed to the username with capital "B" letter...

Can you figure out why this is all happening and maybe correct this issue somehow (so there would be only one "dez_blanchfield" user instead of two)?Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 19:05, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your request for help. Dez blanchfield was an old account that the user had renamed to be Dez Blanchfield (to capitalize the 'B'). This rename leaves redirects on the old account's user page and user take page so editors are automatically sent to the correct place without getting lost or confused. It looks like someone tried to manually modify the old take page (User talk:Dez blanchfield and in doing so, they replaced the redirect code with their message and instead of leaving their message on the correct user talk page. I went and merged the page history of those recent messages over to the correct user talk page, merged the messages over to the correct page, and restored the redirect link - everything should be all fixed now :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:27, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

On a side note, what makes this really strange to me is that the user was renamed to that new username (capital B), but they haven't edited from that account in over three years. But the old account was used to edit just hours ago... perhaps the user is mixed up somehow? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:30, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, the whole thing was weird... Anyway, thanks for correcting it and hopefully that user will understand what happened and why this correction was made.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 21:24, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom - I let the user know about it so it should be good. No problem; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:26, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Strangely, Special:ListUsers shows that both Dez B and Dez b exist and have edits. This suggests that Dez b is the newer account. Perhaps no account rename ever happened? Somebody just set up a redirection of the user pages? EdJohnston (talk) 01:12, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

EdJohnston - Either way, something does seem off here... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:19, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Here's a new theory: the rename actually did happen. 'b' was changed to 'B'. Then the user went ahead (within the hour, back in 2014) and accidentally recreated a new account with the old name. If they still kept the same password, you might consider proposing a block of the old-named account, and encourage them to use the new one. EdJohnston (talk) 01:26, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

EdJohnston - Nah, don't block the account - that's unnecessary. Just talk to the user and explain what you think and ask them if they need help :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:28, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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Replied and handled. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:54, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! By the way Thank you for declining my rollback request. You were right I need more time. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 19:56, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

No worries; just keep up the good work and you'll get there ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:01, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

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Handled. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:01, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

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That didn't need to be emailed privately; ask that question here ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:12, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

It contained the word "Ho" in it. That's why. Should it be blocked?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:14, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

That's fine to post here - nobody is going to freak out over something like that lol. No; it's not a blatant violation of Wikipedia's username policy. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:15, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

To clarify here for the public record, Thegooduser was asking whether or not the username Jaan Pehechan Ho should be blocked as a username violation. Thegooduser, if you're redirected via email response to post your question here publicly, make sure to ask your full question here like you did in the initial email to me so that the community can understand what you're talking about ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:19, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

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 Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:55, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

List of Colin Firth performances

Hi,
Does [[REDACTED - Oshwah] this edit] need revdel or similar? Cheers, Eagleash (talk) 22:42, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Eagleash - Definitely does; it's been redacted ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:56, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 23:19, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, there's another one here. Eagleash (talk) 04:07, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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Handled. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:19, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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Ask this question here on my talk page and I'll respond - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:20, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

What?

So I ran across these accounts...

User talk:1206 AM (Mega Manila)

User talk:1098 AM (Manila) ‎

I've seen another account with the similar username but I forgot it. Strange?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:22, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

These accounts are promotional because they're representing a radio station and frequency and have both been soft blocked. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:35, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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(It's A Revdel Request)

Page deleted. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:48, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

You forgot the talk page...Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:49, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Ah, shit. Thanks -  Fixed. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:55, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Umm... Oshwah, you might want to add a link to the relevant CSD criteria when you delete pages. "G3" or "U5" might confuse readers that are not proficient with the DELPOL. But that's a detail, anyway... :-) L293D (☎ • ✎) 01:46, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

User:דרעי זגלשטין משרד עורכי דין

Could you soft block this user?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It would be helpful if you provided a rationale for such request. For anyone interested, Google translates it as Deri Zaghlstein Law Offices. byteflush _Talk 01:56, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the report Thegooduser and for the comment Byteflush. Based on the translation, I have blocked the account as a username violation. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 02:02, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

User:Ariana Grande Buttera

Okay...Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:03, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Ariana Grande Buttera (talk · contribs) - Weird, I have no way to classify that. It's not U5 per se, though a soft block may be needed because of the username. I'm rarely an advocate of WP:IAR, but in this case -- IAR speedy delete the user page and soft block the user. byteflush _Talk 05:16, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Tagged it with U5 anyway. The userpage doesn't represent the user as a wikipedian, so an admin will probably acknowledge that. Thanks for reporting, Thegooduser. byteflush _Talk 05:24, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

I have removed the CSD U5. I'm either naive, or this is one confused new editor. Someone should probably take a look at our brief chat at User_talk:Ariana_Grande_Buttera. byteflush _Talk 05:46, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Rename request was declined. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:04, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

COI on the Apsara Reddy article

I've discovered a page, Apsara Reddy, that was edited by ApsaraR who may be Apsara Reddy. It was a faulty edit to begin with, placed in a section header. Coryphantha Talk 01:58, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Coryphantha! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns. I apologize for the delay responding to your message here - I've been busy in real life and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails. It looks like the account only made one edit, and hasn't edited the article since the event that you saw, so I think it's safe to say that the account is no longer active... nonetheless, I went ahead and left a warning on the user's talk page regarding conflict of interest anyways. Should the user become active again, they'll have the opportunity to read and understand the concerns that you observed with the user's editing. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to do so. Again, please accept my apologies for the delay responding to you, and I wish you happy editing. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:07, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

No problem in the delay, I know how that is. Thank you for taking a look at this, I wasn't sure what to do with it. Best wishes. Coryphantha Talk 11:47, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Battlefield 5 article

Hello, sorry to bother you again. As you may or may not know, the recent announcement of "Battlefield 5" video game has caused a lot of controversy due to some aspects of the game (the details of which aren't really important), meaning people are still trying to vandalize the article here. For example, today there were a couple of accounts who tried to do same kind of unconstructive edits. Do you think it deserves a temporary semi-protection or not yet? I mean, having a "troll bait" article is kind of nice in terms of all the potential reverts it can generate but I believe completely preventing them would be even better ;-) Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 02:52, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom, I took a look at it, and unless Oshwah (or another admin) disagrees with me, I would say that it is too soon for protection or a block. With that said, I have now watchlisted that article and will keep tabs on it over the next while, thank you for bringing this to our attention . --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 05:23, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

TheSandDoctor - Thanks for helping this user out while I was inactive. Much appreciated :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:07, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

User:Carman, Manitoba

Soft Block?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:41, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

UAA would be the best place to report these, but I have gone ahead and soft-blocked it. Thank you for this report Thegooduser! --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:02, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

TheSandDoctor - Why the soft block? What was wrong with the username? I see that it matches a city, but that's about it... am I missing something? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:10, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Cities are generally incorporated entities and it was editing the entry for the city. If you don't feel the block necessary, I will happily overturn my own. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 12:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

TheSandDoctor - The username was definitely the name of a city (it matched the title of the article, so there's that... lol) and the user edited the article of that same city as well and added what I clearly determine to be original research - so clearly this person is most likely from that area or lives in that area... but, is it a blatant violation of Wikipedia's username policy? I'd say no; it doesn't imply shared use nor is it promotional in any state - at least not blatantly or clearly so. This is a situation where I would've either left well enough alone or would have talked to the user, welcomed them, and tried to find out what their purpose here is or what the username the person chose represents to them. I agree with you that the username combined with the edits draws some concern, but speaking in terms of the username, it can be seen as somewhat of a grey area to some if not many. As far as possible implications go, I'd call the username "too ambiguous" - there isn't/wasn't enough information (edits, etc) to determine that a block was needed and that the account (with all things taken into consideration) was going to be used for shared-use or promotional purposes. If, for example, you see an account that you believe might be promotional or a violation of policy but it's juuuuuuust not clear or blatant enough to take action for the username alone and from the get-go, and that account starts making edits where the content with the username shows a clear intent to be disruptive, promotional, etc that UPOL doesn't permit - you're totally allowed to take action based on those findings (I do it all the time, lol). It's up to you what you'd like to do - I leave that in your very capable hands and to your good judgment; while I wouldn't have blocked the user, to look at things on a positive note: you only soft-blocked the account compared to hard-blocking it. While still not the ideal action I would have taken, the worst case scenario is that they just pick another username and go from there... Let me know if you have any questions or need my input with anything here and I'll be more than happy to help. Don't fret it; we all take different actions and make different interpretations of things not just as admins, but as people in general. You'll find that two admins will debate, discuss, or even disagree on the interpretation of a clause or statement in a policy and what action to take (or if any should be taken) - and without there really being a bad or wrong answer between either one of them ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:15, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Unblocked. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 13:23, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

TheSandDoctor - I'd say that this was the right decision to make (don't forget to update the user's talk page and let them know what happened and that they're not blocked). Again, fear not and worry not; I've made "close call", grey-area, borderline and questionable blocks myself, and I've screwed up hard and a number of times as an admin. Big time... lol. Every situation like this (I wouldn't even call this a "situation") is a learning opportunity, and I'm here for you any time you need it :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:41, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Check your sandbox

You have a password revealed in here! You may decide to redact this revision. 154.5.169.5 (talk) 22:46, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kameron Chia Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:53, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

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Theres more to revdel too...Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

If these aren't taken care of already, please feel free to email them to me Thegooduser (or private message on IRC if you are on that) and I can deal with them. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 02:05, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

TheSandDoctor I don't remember these links.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:12, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: Fair enough. Hopefully Oshwah is able to help you out then . --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 00:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Handled ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:12, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

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Received and handled. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:19, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

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Received and handled. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:20, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Edit filter

How do you disable, delete, enable an edit filter on Wikipedia? How can you make an ID for the filter, make it private or public, etc. Plus, what is the programming language (or the PHP framework)? 154.5.169.5 (talk) 14:49, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Are you talking about recent changes or is it something else? Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:13, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Move help

Oshwah or an admin stalker: Help!! I tried to swap United States Space Force with United States Space Corps to keep the page history together, but something didn't work. I have now lost the original United States Space Corps article, and I don't know where it is. Meanwhile, another user has created content at United States Space Force. Help please! - BilCat (talk) 20:15, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

I found it at Draft:Move/United States Space Force. Will attempt another move. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 20:30, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

BilCat! I'm so sorry for the delay getting back to you here! I've been busy in real life and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails... do you still need help with this? Let me know; if so, I'll be glad to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:13, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Ping

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- BilCat (talk) 22:27, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

BilCat - Received; thanks for the email. If you see any more, don't hesitate to email me and let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:21, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

User: El Corrector de Malvados

Block? Translates to: The corrector of the evil (Translated from Google Translate)Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

No, this isn't a blatant violation of Wikipedia's username policy. I wouldn't block this account for the username alone. Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:14, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Oshwah

I found your username on the Beta Cluster is that account yours?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:33, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - You're talking about this beta cluster, correct? If so, then yes the 'Oshwah' account there is mine ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

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Received and handled. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:21, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

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Received and handled. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:21, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Would you be willing to review?

As the closing admin at the recent ANI filing involving me, would you be willing to take a look at this and perhaps express an opinion? I don't feel that it's going as well as it could or perhaps should go, and my prior mistakes notwithstanding, I'm at a loss as to what I can or should be doing to make this go more smoothly. Thank you for at least taking a look. DonIago (talk) 03:22, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi DonIago! Sure, I'll take a look and do what I can ;-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:19, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Oshwah; greatly appreciated. I just feel that my prior lapse notwithstanding, I was making a reasonable effort to try to collaborate only to get repeatedly stonewalled. DonIago (talk) 15:21, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

DonIago - I completely understand what you mean and how that feels..... I'll be happy to try and help :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:22, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

List of WWE personnel

It needs update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeniusBoy2005 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi GeniusBoy2005. This article is currently under full edit protection due to edit warring between multiple editors over content-related issues. If you wish to discuss this article, please feel free to do so by visiting the article's talk page. You can also request that the article be updated by filing an edit request on the same page as well. Please review this guideline and visit the article's talk page for more information. If you have questions, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:18, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at User:Kudpung/What do admins do?

 You are invited to join the discussion at User:Kudpung/What do admins do?. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:08, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Kudpung - Okay, I'll fill one out today! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:46, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Kudpung -  Done. Hope it's at least somewhat helpful! Good luck :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:31, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Oh, I'm learning I thank I understand now. Thank you, Boricuaqueen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boricuaqueen (talk • contribs) 21:00, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Boricuaqueen - No problem! Welcome to Wikipedia! Make sure that you go through and complete our new user tutorial, as it will provide you with many walkthroughs and tutorials that are important to learn. If you run into any questions, let me know. Happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:06, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Sock

How do you report someone for sockpuppetry ARMcgrath (talk) 00:57, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

ARMcgrath - File an SPI (sock puppet investigation) report by visiting this page. Let me know if you have any questions about this and I'll be happy to answer them. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:58, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks I did it I found a suspicion of sp on this page by two special ip. This Ip used the name Tom Pestock this one and this one uses that name. A fellow Wikipedian of mine reported the last user a few hours ago and it was blocked. Thanks for the advice. ARMcgrath (talk) 01:07, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

ARMcgrath - Of course; you're very welcome. Please feel free to stop by here any time you have questions or need help or input; I'll be more than happy to help you. Until we meet again ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:11, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Also did check my sockpuppetry Page I set. did I set myself up as a sp by accident.ARM (talk) 01:20, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

ARMcgrath - Checking... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

so I didn’t set myself up. I was making sure because i don’t want to called a sock when I’m not and I’m concerned about my future here that’s all thanks. Happy Wiki ARM (talk) 01:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

ARMcgrath - Okay, so... a few things went wrong (lol), but I fixed most of them for you. You forgot to list the user that's suspected of being the sock puppet, and you didn't provide any evidence with your report (which is required)... but that's okay! It's your first time and I certainly screwed up my first report, too ;-). I'll go ahead and take a look and go from here. Do you have any questions? :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:28, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

I hope this Tom guys doesn’t mess with this that fellow user again. And also I hope that a future Wikipedia account is blocked the second he makes it. But besides that thanks I truly appreciate it. Happy Wiki ARM (talk) 01:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

ARMcgrath - Heh, well only time will tell ;-). Happy editing to you, too :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:35, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Page protection

Hi Oshwah, can you protect the Alden Ehrenreich page? Thanks.-KH-1 (talk) 03:47, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

KH-1 -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:50, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Civility Barnstar
		You were very kind and civil on my talk page. You also handled the problem really well. Great work and thanks! The Optimistic One (talk) 04:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi The Optimistic One - First of all, thank you :-). I appreciate the barnstar very much and I'm pleased to hear that you got the message in the tone that I was trying to leave it ;-). Talking in an authoritative tone is stupid and I wasn't trying to scold or blame anyone. I was just trying to say, "Hey man...., just giving a friendly poke and letting you know" ;-). By the time you responded, I refreshed the BLP page (I was keeping active eyes on it due to seeing earlier edits made to it), and someone added a source. Problem solved! Aaand moving on! Anyways, I really appreciate the feedback and I'm happy that I could make you happy :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:18, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Using huggle

Hey Oshwah! I got rollback rights, and I just installed huggle. The thing is, I'm not sure if I did it right; in fact, I feel I messed up. I put enable:true on my "huggle.yaml.js" page prior to installing huggle. I can't log in because the only thing I need to do is enable SSL, which I don't know how to, and I'm afraid of any mistakes. The option to enable SSL is grayed out. I would appreciate help. Thanks! Dolfinz1972 (talk) 06:05, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dolfinz1972! I apologize for the delay responding to your request for help here... I was busy with real life stuff, and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails and picking up where I left off with everything ;-). Nope, you don't need to touch anything in your huggle.yaml.js file at all; Huggle populates this file automatically with the options and information that you add and set within Huggle's preferences and menus. In fact, messing with that file can cause issues as it's easy to accidentally add improper syntax or characters. If you need help with that file, let me know and I can fix it manually for you. After downloading and installing Huggle, you need to generate a bot password by reading the instructions here. After you've done this, you can log into the interface and begin using it.

My sincere advice to you (and anybody whose a novice to Huggle or just using Huggle for the very first time) is to take things slow and get completely familiar with the interface by only using the mouse to navigate and perform actions. Don't map or use any keyboard shortcuts at all until you get yourself completely familiar and proficient with Huggle first. That includes the queue and edit diffs and how to navigate back and forward through the queue, the different windows and tabs and what they do, the menus and buttons on the top (especially the ones with the drop-down arrows next to them... those can be tricky bastards to click sometimes... lol), the options and preferences, reverting edits and warning users, and all of the different sub-actions available. After you feel completely comfortable using Huggle with the mouse, you can consider using keyboard shortcuts. Seriously... take my advice regarding the mouse. There are many keyboard shortcuts on Huggle and most of them will perform the said action without confirmation or even much indication at all that you've done so. An example: Pressing a key will revert the edit you currently have in front of you and leave a warning on the user's talk page for vandalism - all without confirming with you first (usually) and if you're not familiar with the Huggle interface, you'll have no clue at all that you did this... not until the user leaves you an angry talk page message demanding why you reverted their edit and accused them of vandalism... Trust me, it's not fun to upset others like that ;-). To add more emphasis with caution: I've done things by mistake or by accident on Huggle numerous times over the years that I've used it (and I still do once in a great while...), and Huggle mistakes will highly annoy editors when they see them happen (even those not directly affected) - so take care and be careful!

If you run into any questions at all or if you need input or help with anything, please don't hesitate to let me know. I'll be more than happy to help you and answer any questions that you have. Thanks again for the message, I apologize again for taking so long to get back to you, I hope my response helped to get you started in the right direction, and I wish you good luck and happy patrolling! You know where to find me if you need me! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:46, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Sock account with COI issues

Hello. I noticed that you were the admin who issued the original block on Faldsetry. Can you please extend the block on RazorAustin933 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) to indefinite? It's an obvious sock of Faldsetry. The editing behavior at this article says it all. Thanks. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi LightandDark2000! Sorry for the delay getting back to you here! I'm just coming back after a short period of inactivity and I'm just getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia emails and messages here - life gets busy ;-). It looks like the account you mentioned here has been blocked. If you see any more issues or disruption like this, don't hesitate to report the user to AIV or ANI, open an SPI case, or message me here if you're not sure. Hope you have a great rest of your day, and I'm sure we'll speak again soon ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:08, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

TheChefBobby625

Hi Oshwah. I've unblocked this user per WP:ROPE; letting you know since the block was one of yours. All the best, Yunshui ^雲_水 08:32, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Yunshui - Sounds good to me! I hope he does well and that he learns from the block :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:09, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Page protection

Hi Oshwah, can you protect the Danilo Petrucci page? Thanks. Azlan Noordin (talk) 11:36, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Azlan Noordin - Why does the article need protection? Can you elaborate for me so that I know what to look for? Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:09, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

JOSE RIGA

Hi my friend My name is Antony Feuillade , ANTONYFEUILLADE64 , and im working in football business. I work for a coach , Jose Riga from Belgium , and I need to change his bio in english version wikipedia. In french wikipedia , its done but I tried 2 times to chance the text in english version. Could you tell me why I can't do this operation ? Please find my new text in word and may be you can arrange to fix it in wikipedia because like I told you before , its not working with me :)

Thank you too much

Kind regards

Antony Feuillade NEWSTART

BEFORE THE EXISTING PART

After a title and a cup in the lower divisions, José Riga started his national debut at the RCS Visé . Arrived in this club that had just been relegated to D3, he managed in the first season to go up in D2 via the playoffs. After having stabilized this club in D2, he is called via Michel Preudhomme to join the staff of the Standard de Liège as assistant coach. After two seasons and especially a participation in the Europa League, he is asked by the RAEC Mons who has just dropped in D2.

Called to head RAEC Mons after his descent in Division 2 in 2005, José Riga's mission is to bring the club back to the elite as soon as possible. He succeeds in one year and seduces many observers by the quality of the game proposed by his team.

In the first year of the club in division 1, he managed to bring him to 9th place overall, with 44 points (a record). A season with some striking successes: 5-0 against Genk, 6-1 against Roeselare.

The second year is more difficult for the coach of Liège. The club must of course confirm its first good season and seems to give the means of its ambitions by keeping its workforce. Offensive deficiencies however appear quickly after the departure of striker Mohamed Dahmane .. the bad results are linked together and the end seems close to the one that the leaders of Mons describe as "friend of the club" ...

Although his contract ran until 2010, he was thanked in January 2008.

In June 2008, he signed a 5-year contract as technical director at RCS Visé.

After having narrowly missed the accession to the D2 via the playoffs, he combines the following season the role of technical director and coach. At the end of the season the RCS Visé wins the title and regains the D2.

On June 28, 2011, José Riga was named T1 of Standard de Liège, following the change of shareholding in this club.

The first year is a year of transition with the departure of several major players (Witsel, Benteke, Defour and Mangala).

This does not preclude a very successful course in the various competitions: Europa League (round of 16) Belgian Cup (1/4 final) and accession to the playoffs 1.

IN THE PLACE OF THE FIRST PART CONCERNING QATAR AND AC MILAN

In June 2012, he moved to Qatar and joined the Aspire Academy (training center) to set up a new football development program.

José Riga, in association with Michel Bruyninckx, designs and develops a football training method focused on the functioning of the brain, a method called Cogitraining , and an important tool called SenseBall , whose practice allows, among other things, to become a ambidextrous player.

In order to better promote the concept "Cogitraining" around the world, he decided to leave Aspire in 2013.

In October 2013, he signed a contract with the Italian club AC Milan and joined the technical staff, including Filipo Galli to review the football development program. With his compatriot Michel Bruyninckx, José Riga was hired to improve the techniques and concepts of training players, especially with his method Cogitraining.

"His son Grégory Riga, professor of physical education and currently assistant director in a football academy in Florida, attended various missions such as Standard Liege, Academy Aspire, AC Milan ..."

AFTER THE LAST PARAGRAPH AT THE END

Back in Belgium at the end of 2016 at the Cercle de Bruges, famous club in Belgium. Indeed, it is in great difficulty in D2 and the mission promises to be complicated again. Despite this, he manages to keep the club elite and at the same time ensures its survival in the professional world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ANTONYFEUILLADE64 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

ANTONYFEUILLADE64 - It appears that you're quite new here, and that there's a conflict of interest with the article you're trying to edit since you claim to be working for this person. You need to review the conflict of interest guideline, the terms of use page on paid editing (there are disclosure requirements you must follow if you're being compensated or paid in any way to edit Wikipedia), and begin by taking Wikipedia's new user tutorial so you can learn how to appropriately and properly contribute to the project here and not in a manner derived from conflicting interests and non-neutral viewpoints and backgrounds. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:12, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Zapnath9 SPI

IP 160.5.98.27 which was the subject of archived SPI on Zapnath9 is active once again. Can you please block the IP too? ——Gazoth (talk) 16:51, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gazoth. Sorry for taking so long to get back to you here... I had to take a short break from here due to being busy in real life and I'm just now getting all caught up with my messages and emails. Is this still an issue with other IP addresses or this user? It looks like this particular IP hasn't edited since June 25. Let me know and I'll be happy to take a look at this and do some digging if it's still needed. Thanks for the message, I apologize again for such a delay responding back to you, I'll await your response with an update, and I hope you have a great rest of your day ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:15, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah: No worries, I requested page protection which seems to have solved the issue. —Gazoth (talk) 08:10, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

sovereign citizen movement page

"Unconstructive" input is your opinion. Obviously you did not read nor research what I sent nor read the other side of the sovereigns. Your are required to post neutral information. Yours is all negative. When are you going to fix it? Rgojoey (talk) 20:53, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Easy man, clearly, this edit is unconstructive and likely disruptive, you cannot edit Wikipedia and remove such a huge amount of referenced informations. Thanks.---Wikaviani (talk) 21:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Rgojoey - Did you need help with this article? The reason I reverted your edit here to Sovereign citizen movement was because you removed a large quantity of content and without explaining why. I highly recommend that you collaborate on the article's talk page and work with other involved editors there to address your concerns about neutral content and wording if the concerns you have are still present. Simply removing all of the content like that isn't helpful; there's probably a bunch of helpful and detailed information in there - if we just need to improve it in order to be worded neutrality, we should fix this content rather than completely remove it ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:20, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You

		The Purple Barnstar
		You can always identify the really great admins by the amount of abuse they attract. Ad Orientem (talk) 05:41, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

I think my talk page has been vandalized maybe twice which kinda indicates my standing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:41, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

I have reprotected this talk page for a week as right after the last protection expired, the threats returned. It is sad to say, but long term or indefinite protection of this talk page might have to happen at some point (cc Ad Orientem). --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 13:40, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I agree. As much as I dislike protecting user talk pages, this has become pervasive. At least for the time being the page should be protected whenever he is not online. Oshwah can lift the protection when he is on line. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:25, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, but i added this page to my watchlist in order to revert any offending edits when i can. It's quite incredible the number of personal attacks against Oshwah here. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 18:17, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protection Ad Orientem? And thank you Wikaviani, if you ever need revdel's on this talk page (or elsewhere) please email links to the diffs to an active admin (ie myself or Ad Orientem, there are a bunch of us active) and do not post about them on-wiki in order to avoid any unneccesary attention. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:22, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, semi. Oshwah can lift the protection when he returns. No need to make a huge deal out of it but we try to keep an eye on each others' pages because sometimes we do get the occasional troll. Thank you both. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:27, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

@Ad Orientem:, see your email please. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:33, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Understood, i'll use mails for any revdel (revert/delete i presume), not wiki posts, Thanks, both of you guys. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 04:11, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

@Wikaviani:, "revdel" stands for revision deletion, which hides specific edit details from non-administrator view (you can click the link to learn more). To overly simplify: basically threats, disruptive/disparaging content etc. Hope the link helps explain it a bit. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 06:50, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Fine, thank you. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 12:40, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Ad Orientem! Thank you for the barnstar! Yeah, for the record I don't mind if other admins throw page protection on my talk page - but keep it temporary. I'd much rather have the abuse thrown at me than someone else's talk page - someone who might actually become frightened by the abuse and the threats I receive here. Plus, it makes it easier for you to patrol and look for ;-). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:51, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm trying to make a character page the "Wikipedia way"

Hey Oshy, so after having the original Josy the rabbit page deleted I'm now trying to remake it in a much better way, as in I want add a character infobox to the page but I don't know how to. I tried to look at other Wikipedia articles to see what I should do but alas I have no clue. Emiship'05 (talk) 15:33, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Maybe this can help you. Regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 15:46, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Ok thanks! But my page still got deleted yesterday, but at least at least I got this http://ems-world.wikia.com/wiki/Josy_The_Rabbit_Thing - Emiship'05 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emiship'05 (talk • contribs) 10:45, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Emiship'05! I apologize for taking so long to get back to you here! I was busy with real life stuff and I'm just getting caught up with my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). Did you still need help with this article and how you can make improvements and add content to it? Let me know and I'll be more than happy to point you toward a few examples and guidelines to get you started. Again, I'm so sorry for taking so long to get back to you... life gets busy ;-). Let me know and I'll be happy to help if you still need it :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:23, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

What?

What happened to my talk page?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Thegooduser. Trust me, you don't want to know. Suffice to say it was vandalism. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 21:32, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

		Sunshine!
		Hello Oshwah! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 has given you a bit of sunshine to brighten your day! Sunshine promotes WikiLove and hopefully it has made your day better. Spread the sunshine by adding {{subst:User:Meaghan/Sunshine}} to someone else's talk page, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. In addition, you can spread the sunshine to anyone who visits your userpage and/or talk page by adding {{User:Meaghan/Sunshine icon}}. Happy editing! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:57, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Thegooduser! Thanks for the ray of sunshine! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

changes I made to Lisa gabriele

Hi there, I am a close friend of Lisa's and I tweaked as a favor to her as the whoever wrote the original had some facts wrong...and I updated it a little...nothing major. some of the times were wrong, etc...added her new book. hope that helps! — Preceding unsigned comment added by NanaBobana (talk • contribs) 14:25, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there NanaBobana, editing articles on topics which you have a conflict of interest is strongly discouraged. I would recommend not continuing to remove the content and instead request the change on the article's talk page (click blue link) and including {{request edit}} at the top of your message. You can click here to open the prompt, copy and paste that template, then state your request, and click "publish changes". If you have any questions, please feel free to let us know. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 14:47, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

commons:User talk:Ferret#Google Chrome

@Dlohcierekim: He is not answering my request (sorry my home IP is block in EN, editing on Hotspot in the car) for the move protection of the enwiki page. Would you do it for me? 209.52.88.52 (talk) 15:47, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@IP, not sure that ping of yours worked, as it was subsequent to your post: @Dlohcierekim:. —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap sh*t room} 16:17, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

If 154.5.169.5 (talk · contribs · block log) is you, that's quite the interesting block log there. I'd suggest not evading it. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 16:27, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

@AntiCompositeNumber: Ha! Oops  :) —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap sh*t room} 16:29, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:22, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Editor refusing to discuss reverts

Hi Oshwah! I'm having some trouble with another editor who has reverted all my recent edits to the Kanafeh article, without reasonable grounds or explanation. I've asked them at User talk:Sarah Canbel#Kanafeh article to kindly discuss their concerns on the talk page, but they've refused and just continued to revert. I wonder if you might help me try to encourage them to discuss it? I always like the way you interact with people. I spent a lot of time last week trying to clean up the article (which seems to have been the site of a good deal of edit-warring), remove numerous sources that were low-quality (blogs, etc.) and/or failed verification, add what I think is a well-sourced "History" section, etc. It's a bit frustrating to just have it all erased en masse, and I'm stuck about what to do next, if they won't discuss it rationally. I'd like to restore it so I can continue to work on the History section a bit, but I don't want to engage in a pointless edit war myself... Thanks! --IamNotU (talk) 23:01, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @IamNotU: I would recommend starting a discussion on the talk page: talk:Kanafeh, etc. See wp:talk pages and wp:dispute resolution Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 23:17, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Jim1138, the point is they have refused to engage in discussion. I already opened a section on the article's talk page about my edits, and left a message on their user talk page asking them to discuss on the article's talk page. Instead they responded by just reverting all my edits again, without reasonable explanation. I'm happy to pursue dispute resolution, but that requires that discussion actually takes place. They're clearly ignoring me, so I was hoping Oshwah could give them a nudge (or give me some other advice) in his inimitable way, before I have to file a complaint at ANI. Thanks... --IamNotU (talk) 00:14, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

@IamNotU: I would suggest wp:pinging the parties involved. They may not have the page on their watchlist. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 05:45, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Jim1138, thanks for your input, but actually I really wanted to talk to Oshwah about it. He was very helpful before in a couple of situations with people edit warring rather than discussing, and was very insightful about it, and I always learn something from his approach. I already left the editor a message on their talk page, and in the summary for the edit which they reverted for the second time, about discussing on the article's talk page. I can ping them again, but it's obviously more than them just not being aware of it! --IamNotU (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

I went ahead anyway and added another comment on the article talk page, and pinged them again along with a few other editors who have been active on the talk page. I tried to keep it positive and polite, inspired by Oshwah's approach. It took a few drafts as my natural tendency in dealing with crabby people is not so generous! We'll see what happens. --IamNotU (talk) 17:54, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi IamNotU! I'm so sorry for taking this long to get back to your message here! I've been busy with real life and I'm just now getting caught up with my Wikipedia messages and emails. It looks like the article hasn't been edited since the end of June, but Sarah Canbel also hasn't edited since the revert she made to your edit on Kanafeh. If I were you, I'd start a new discussion on the article's talk page, ping Sarah Canbel, and ask her to help you out by pointing to the content that she believes should be referenced. While you await her response, I see no harm in adding back the changes you made to the article minus any content that isn't referenced in order to be fair and not appear as if you're planting your foot in the ground at the user. You definitely did the right thing though; you didn't reinstate your changes or start any kind of edit war, and you proceeded immediately to her user talk page to try and engage in a discussion. Your actions are clearly in the right side of the light here, but I wouldn't yet call Sarah Canbel's lack of response to your discussion a "failure to communicate" yet - after all, she hasn't edited since the revert she made and it's very well plausible (in fact, probable) that she went offline after doing so. She may just not have received or read your messages yet; no big deal - let's just be patient, add back the improvements that are not in concern, and give her time to respond. If her contributions eventually show that she's resumed editing and you receive no responses from her, just ping her again, be polite, and ask her if she could respond to the discussion when possible for her. If that fails, then I don't mind trying to step in and help if you need me to; that's fine with me. I just generally try not to "escalate things" or make anything appear as if it's "escalated" unless we try first things first ;-). Otherwise if I suddenly move in and add a comment before she's had a chance to participate, it could achieve the opposite effect and make the user think to herself, "wtf... now an admin is up on my shit? Why?!!". I think that patience and carefully adding back content that isn't unreferenced is a good direction for you to start in for now and while you await what happens with your attempt to talk to her. If you have any more questions or need my input or help with anything else, please don't hesitate to message me and let me know. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand ;-). I hope my response wasn't too late and that it offered some good help and a direction for you to start ;-). Keep in touch! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:10, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Oshwah, good that you are spending some time in real life! And thanks for your reply. To clarify though, I'm pretty sure it's not a matter of her not having received or read the messages. I made about 40 edits between 17-27 June (I was not really involved in the article earlier). She reverted all my edits twice, by rolling the article back to the previous 17 June version. The first time, she gave the summary "Spelling/grammar correction". I reverted that as "unexplained removal of content", and immediately left the message on her talk page and in my edit summary, requesting discussion on the article's talk page, where I had already started a new section about it. Several hours later, ignoring all of that, she reverted it for the second time, this time using the summary "Removing unsourced content", without discussion. All the material I added, including a new "History" section, is supported with high-quality sources, eg. a chapter in the Oxford Companion to Food. I really don't see any content that isn't referenced. I had also done a lot of work cleaning up poor and unreliable sources (blogs, recipe-sharing sites, etc.) and numerous statements that were unsourced or failed verification (several of which had been added by her), and I left detailed edit summaries about each. All of that has also been undone, along with the edits of several other users made since 17 June.

Her edit history shows an insistence that a particular regional version of the dish is historically the original, removing references to other countries, and repeatedly edit warring over it, including breaking the 3RR (see eg. 8-11 November 2017), and not using meaningful edit summaries. This is despite several in-depth discussions on the talk page - which she has never participated in - that appear to show a consensus that reliable sources don't support such an unqualified claim, and at best it's unclear or disputed. Nevertheless, her version of the origin story has prevailed through her tenacious editing and reverts of anyone who changes it. On the other hand, I can see that she has made some significant positive contributions to Wikipedia, so I give her credit for that.

In the meantime, I've found some additional scholarly historical sources, so I'd like to restore the edits again, and continue to work on the history section. I did ping some other active editors who have been involved on the talk page, but it's been a week and unfortunately nobody has responded (they'll get a notification if I use the {{User|username}} template, right?). So I guess for now I'll just go ahead and restore it again, and keep working, unless you have another suggestion? I don't want to be provocative or edit war, but I'd like to move forward with improving the article. Thanks again... --IamNotU (talk) 21:56, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah: just realized I didn't ping you when I wrote the above, so maybe you didn't read it... --IamNotU (talk) 19:23, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

IamNotU - Aww, shit.... I'm so sorry for missing that you responded here. I'm going to read you response and get back to you today. Please accept my sincere apologies for the delay with doing so... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:29, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

IamNotU - Thank you for taking the time to respond with these details and for explaining the timeline of events with Sarah Canbel and her undoing the changes you made to the article. When undoing your changes the first time, her edit summary stated "Spelling/grammar correction", which implies that she just fixed some small spelling and grammar errors when this was absolutely not what was changed. Her second time undoing your changes to the article is where thing gets very interesting... she states in her edit summary that she was "Removing unsourced content" when this was clearly not the case. I don't think you'll have much trouble at all with restoring your changes back; her explanations for reverting your changes do not properly explain or justify a reason for doing so. She hasn't edited Wikipedia since making these two reverts, so any subsequent messages you've tried to leave for her probably haen't been read yet. I'd just be prepared to work with the user if they choose to return to editing and they have issues with your changes. Other than that, I'd say go for it :-). Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the follow-up response and I hope you have a great evening. Cheers ;-) - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:19, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Xsecret

Would you review a pending unblock request? 50.126.89.226 (talk) 16:16, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Are you editing as an IP while blocked? Natureium (talk) 16:38, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

No. 50.126.89.226 (talk) 03:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Request has been answered by User:5 albert square. 50.38.50.112 (talk) 14:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

LOL. That question and answer made me laugh... Looks like the request has been handled; thank you 5 albert square for responding to the unblock request :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:14, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

No probs!--5 albert square (talk) 22:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

YouTube

Well, on Wikipedia, YouTube is not a reliable source. Maybe you might create a script that checks random pages in the Main namespace until it finds a direct YouTube source with just a link at 12:00 noon I guess. The script removes the regex fragment:

\\x3Cref\x3Ehttps?://(www|m).youtube.com/watch?v=[A-Za-z0-9\x2D\x5F]{11,11}\x3C/ref\x3E

50.126.89.226 (talk) 16:27, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

But YouTube can be used for channel statistics (of channels/personalities already determined to be notable, ie Pewdiepie, Ali-A, etc). If what you are getting at is finding the sources to remove, that could be inappropriate depending on the article (basically, not something for a script or bot to auto-decide). (talk page stalker)--TheSandDoctor ^Talk 18:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) There's no policy that says YouTube as a whole is unsuitable for Wikipedia. The information at WP:RS applies to videos the same as any other source, though sites like YouTube do deserve extra scrutiny against user-generated content and copyright violations. If a news article by a reliable organization is considered acceptable as a source, a news video on that organization's official YouTube channel should be as well. See Wikipedia:Video links and WP:ELPEREN#YouTube for some more information on using videos as citations or external links. clpo13_(talk) 18:49, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Sure! 50.126.89.226 (talk) 00:50, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

The regex is a video ID in youtube. 50.126.89.226 (talk) 14:54, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Clpo13 is correct in that YouTube videos shouldn't be dismissed as unreliable from the get-go simply because it's a YouTube video. Content, context, what the video is being used to "cite", the publisher, author, information stated or provided, the video's listed sources and references, and many other factors - all play into whether or not the YouTube video should be used as a source and considered reliable. I'll admit that I tend to view YouTube references as "less sustainable" (if that makes sense?) compared to URL of a webpage, report, or online text - simply because of the nature of how long YouTube videos tend to stay up before it's taken down or removed by the publisher, etc - and unlike webpages, online reports, or online text sources, the videos aren't archived (and even if they were, I would most definitely assume that it would violate copyright to link to them). But the thoughts I express isn't relevant and it should not (and does not) properly gauge or measure the reliability of the video or media. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:28, 4 July 2018 (UTC)