User talk:A930913/Archives/2013/Jun

A930913

I think a couple of things need to be changed.

1. Can you change the color where the bot is pointing the error? For the color blind, the red looks like black and makes it hard to pick out the error. Red and green are the most common problem colors. Changing it to blue would be good.
2. Can you uncollapse the box. Not everybody knows about the show button. New editors have the most problems.
3. See GoingBatty's suggestion just above this message. Bgwhite (talk) 05:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

1. Hmm, red is generally used to denote an error, though I will investigate.
2. Yeah, it's collapsed by default because it can be long, and I couldn't work out a way for the template to determine whether it should collapse.
3. To clarify, BracketBot will only notify you if your edit changed the number of brackets. When fixing, this can occasionally occur when closing brackets that were opened a few lines prior,, for example. This is out of the diff view, so the imbalance summons the bot. It fetches the whole page and at this point, any imbalance will cause the bot to notify you. If however you have fixed all the errors, it won't. 930913(Congratulate) 22:58, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining when BracketBot is summoned. The text that the bot is currently using presumes that the imbalance was caused by the most recent editor. Since that's not always the case, I suggested the alternate text above. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:45, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Andreas Johan Sjögren

Hi,

Thank you for your bot-generated message concerning my edit of the Juvenaly of Alaska article.

I just encountered a more difficult thing to fix, namely the title of the article Andreas Johan Sjögren. This title is actually wrong, and the article should be moved under the title Anders Johan Sjögren (cf. Finnish Wikipedia on this matter). This person is very well known among Finnish linguists, him having been the founder of Finno-Ugrian linguistics in our country, and there is not doubt whatsoever about the correct spelling of his name. However, I have not learnt how to more articles under a new title, while retaining the history of the article. Could you be so kind as to advise me on this matter? Apanuggpak (talk) 15:22, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

What this article needs is some content based on reliable third-party sources. Half the online source I found on short notice, such as this one, give his first name as "Andreas", the remainder has "Anders". I'm not sure moving the page would be appropriate; a redirect might suffice. Huon (talk) 19:03, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

BracketBot - bug with brackets matched on different lines?

Hi, BracketBot reported a mismatched bracket on this page edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom&oldid=558586429 but, in fact, the bracket is correctly matched a few lines further down. Assuming that I'm right that it's caused by the multiline formatting, I imagine this to be a fairly common problem with tables where splitting across multiple lines makes them easier to read and edit.

Also, the source code would be nice :)

The bot gave misleading information. There was a bracket missing at {{commas|290} inside the table. The bot thought the bracket used to close the table (ie |} ) went with the missing commas template. I fixed the missing bracket. Bgwhite (talk) 20:38, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah, thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackAidley (talk • contribs) 10:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

A suggestion

Would it be possible to extend the bots response time from 5 to 15 minutes? I do make a fair few errors with brackets, and managed to catch most of them in time, but the bot responds before I get a chance to fix a lot of them. An extension in time would give me (and others) a better chance to cathc them. Mjroots (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I also agree the time should be extended. Not sure about 15 minutes, but atleast make it 10 minutes. What do you think A930913? Bgwhite (talk) 20:32, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll probably change this when I get round to moving BracketBot to the labs. I also want to run some stats to calculate how soon people fix their mistake after a notice, and by extension the best time to notice. 930913(Congratulate) 00:22, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Fw. June 2013

In the article Anubhav Mohanty in my edition, the system does not allow the link: http://www.anubhav-star.co.nr/ He considered spam. I need help to restore the reference. --Allforrous 00:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allforrous (talk • contribs)

It is an unreliable reference, thus not allowed. A fan made page is neither reliable nor independent. See WP:SOURCES for more information. Bgwhite (talk) 06:40, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

BracketBot changes

Please update User:BracketBot/inform to include opt instructions, similar to what DPL bot (talk · contribs) does "Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions." Likewise, it'd be better not to notify unregistered and editors who have made < 100 edits.

P.S. Fix your edit notice; you can't change the terms of use of Wikipedia. NE Ent 22:14, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what you are saying by "can't change the terms of use of Wikipedia".

I'm referring to the following portions of this page's edit notice:

"By submitting this form by any means, including but not limited to clicking Save Page or a JavaScript injection, you irrevocably give all your rights to the owner of the account A930913 ("me"), including but not limited to the right to reproduce your submitted content without further consent or notification for any means without reason.

"You hereby, upon submission of the form, irrevocably waiver all rights with regards to me." NE Ent 23:47, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I thought it was on the edit notices that went out to people's talk pages. You do have a point and they should be removed. Bgwhite (talk) 06:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

@NE Ent: Hmm, looks like I forgot to add that you give me your soul too (Incidentally, when one clicks the BracketBot link, that edit notice is hidden.)

As for the template, feel free to change it. There are two reasons I haven't added that, the first one being an attempt to cut bloat from the message, and the second, potentially controversially, making it not so obvious how to opt out. This is because whereas a disambiguation link would result in an extra click from a user, a misplaced bracket could ruin an entire article. 930913(Congratulate) 05:55, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Notices will still go out to unregistered and editors who have made < 100 edits as this was part of the BRFA. While over 80% of these edits are for vandalism, the other ~20% do like it and are appreciative of the notice. We also get other questions and try to answer them. Bgwhite (talk) 22:52, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand why Bgwhite is answering for the bot operator, who I understand is A930913? NE Ent 23:47, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Because I can. I, along with several others, have been answering questions about the bot. Just like other people speak about my bot. Last time I checked, Wikipedia is collaborative. For questions I don't have an answer to, I don't answer. Bgwhite (talk) 06:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Yup, what Bgwhite said. It gives me more time to improve BracketBot, and make other tools and bots. 930913(Congratulate) 05:55, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Brackets

Thanks! I'm always impressed when these template errors are cleaned up so quickly. oceanflynn 17:03, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Ditto! I appreciate the catch of my mistake! Cersevcu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cersevcu (talk • contribs) 18:32, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Smiley

Could you make the bot smarter to identify added smileys, i.e., vandl/tst , as it was here. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

@Staszek Lem: That's ClueBot's job. 930913(Congratulate) 17:24, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Huh? Edit summary blames BracketBot, which reported an unpaired bracket and made the vandal sniggering over a clueless bot. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:40, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Can you just add a whitelist for ":)", ";)", and the like, 930913? Theopolisme (talk) 19:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

WAVE

Hi, I tried running this, but it just redirects me to User:A930913/wave/run. Any reason for this, or is this just due to it being in not-wide use? Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 12:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC) @Mdann52: Using chrome and vector, and navigating to the wmflabs webpage? (Do be careful if using it, because I'm still making lots of changes to it. Double check that it really is doing what you expect it to be doing, as there is no guarantee before it's released.) 930913(Congratulate) 17:24, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Just tried it on IE at my school, and I'm getting the error. However, I've found that some CSS stuff (eg.Wikia) doesn't like working, so I'll see if I can et it running at home. Mdann52 (talk) 10:01, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

BAD Bracketbot...

Every Bracketbot notice that I have received had been wrong... GWFrog (talk) 17:01, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

The VMI Keydets one looks correct to me: There was indeed a curly bracket missing. Fixed. The Anaheim Kingsmen Drum and Bugle Corps one was also correct, you had a curly bracket instead of a parenthesis. Also fixed. The Debbie Black issue was also a curly bracket instead of a parenthesis; also fixed. And the Big East Conference (2013) issue was a removed square bracket that indeed broke a wikilink; fixed by Patrickneil in the following edit. I think those were all BracketBot notices you received, and all were correct. Huon (talk) 18:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Ciara (album)

Hi, Sorry you lost me - what you mean by the 4 [] things on my talk page bit Confused.com/VeryConfused. D to the ina, R to the ae☻ ^{'My Talk Page} 21:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

The bot meant that you added the opening curly brackets for the {{flatlist}} templates but omitted the closing curly brackets - that's four mismatched brackets. Fixed by Bgwhite with this edit. Huon (talk) 23:35, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

BracketBot

Hi, I'd like to get your bot's code. Can you please release it under a FLOSS license?

It's even better if you have it on GitHub or similar.

I own a global bot, and could help adapting it to other wikis and language versions, since it's very useful.

Thanks in advance, --Ricordisamoa 11:16, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

I believe it is GPL. It is best to contact A930913 on IRC about the code. Last time I talked to him, he was at #wikimedia-labs Bgwhite (talk) 06:24, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do. --Ricordisamoa 12:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

@Ricordisamoa: Missed you on IRC Take a look at /data/project/bracketbot/run.sh on the labs, and follow that for the code. Sticking around on IRC is probably the best way we can discuss adapting. 930913(Congratulate) 02:51, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

If it is running from Labs, it may be wiser to simply let it run on itwiki too (after being flagged, of course). --Ricordisamoa 23:38, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

@Ricordisamoa: I'm on IRC if you want to discuss this now. 930913(Congratulate) 00:03, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

BracketBot - 82.68.161.134

Sorry I'm confused — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.161.134 (talk) 12:07, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit reverted by Dolphin51. Nothing else needs to be done here. Huon (talk) 21:36, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

BracketBot: unintelligible message at User talk:Amakuru#June 2013

Just to let you know that the bot attempted to subst a template onto my talk page, User talk:Amakuru#June 2013 but it ended up just looking like unintelligible wiki markup when rendered. Presumably this was due to the bits of wiki and nowiki text which were included in the parameter list. Something you might want to have a look at, perhaps by escaping the text... Thanks!  — Amakuru (talk) 23:15, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

@Amakuru: Indeed, the nowiki can't escape the nowiki :/ Thanks for letting me know. Fixing... 930913(Congratulate) 00:03, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks from Binodkpn

Thanks BracketBot..........I corrected it....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Binodkpn (talk • contribs) 10:54, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
	Your bracket bot is awesome. thanks. dd (talk) 03:23, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, BracketBot!

Thanks, BracketBot! I'll review the section you talk about. Best regards from Mexico City! --correogsk 22:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)