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Thanks for creating Auburn basketball articles. If you are interested, it would help us in WP:WikiProject College Basketball if you created articles for Auburn's All-Americans (found here). We have a long-term effort to create articles for all college All-Americans so help from interested editors is always welcome. Thanks and War Eagle. Rikster2 (talk) 14:57, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I went ahead and added the missing pages to my To Do list. AuburnShuffle (talk) 21:48, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Reverted edit

Hello! I saw you reverted my edit on SEC Men's Basketball Tournament. While it is true that the article does not exist yet, Melvin Cheatum is notable according to WP:NBASKETBALL: he played in Spain (Liga ACB) and Greece (two of the leagues that make a player automatically notable for an article) and other relevant countries (Turkey for example, another high-profile basketball league). In my opinion the link should be there (as per Wikipedia:Red link). I had specified Cheatum's notability in the edit summary. However, I am not going to revert back – it's up to you, I don't want to create any edit wars. Let me know if you think I did something wrong. Thanks! --Triple 8~enwiki (talk) 10:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Rationale for the recently added album covers

You recently added at least two album covers to commons and linked them to articles in this project. The problem is you provided a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license to those previously copyrighted works. That's going to result in the files being deleted. Instead, you should check the fair use rationale of the artwork for band's the albums, or even the albums of other bands, to see how to correctly state that the works are copyrighted and we may use the images in the articles about the subjects. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Charts

When you’re making your USCHARTS edits, please keep in mind that you’re often leaving content unsourced in the lead. If you’re going to remove the charts, fine, but please check the article to see if you need to add a source to make up for it. USCHARTS aside, things like topping a chart like the Mainstream Rock chart is still worth mentioning. Sergecross73 msg me 15:52, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

On the SIAA and Auburn's titles

I don't see why basketball would be an exception to the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association. In fact, they claim the the earliest tournament, and notice Auburn was a participant. The SoCon wasn't around yet. The source was the 1906 Spalding Guide for Basketball, which for better or worse is as official as it gets. The article on the Southern basketball season was written by Coach Donahue, and he mentions that 1906 was a year zero for basketball in the Deep South - though I see now it seems to mean 1906-07. One can add to the teams he mentions that UVA's basketball team, a power in the South Atlantic, first team is 1906. It seems arguably similar to 1890 in the South. As for Auburn being champions, Donahue doesn't make it easy and indisputable with saying "we won the title "champion of the south"' or similar, but he said Auburn's team was clearly the best. Of course, one could argue he was biased, but one could also argue he was chosen to write the article because he had the best team. In fact that seems likely. It's worth looking in the newspaper as well, but it was the one find I had for pre-1910 on an SIAA basketball champion. UVA, Georgetown, and Navy are only thing found for a team of note in the South so far in 1908 and 1909. Anyway, if as the Spalding article seems to imply, Auburn is the original SIAA basketball champion, you will have to tweet at Charles Barkley one day or something. Cake (talk) 13:03, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Looks like you are right about the SIAA extending to basketball during that time, I think the article in Spalding's Guide is enough to justify including that for the teams mentioned. However I'm not sure we should be declaring conference champions based on articles stating which team was the strongest, especially given that Auburn only played 2 of their 6 games against colleges that season. It seems like generally the standard for conferences is to go by what the conferences have in their records, so unless we can find something more official I'd probably just include that Auburn was a member of the conference and leave out the champions tag. AuburnShuffle (talk) 20:57, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Media guides often neglect the SIAA membership era and begin with the Southern Conference. It seems to me they are champions, but I certainly won't fight about it or pretend like your view is crazy, rather than one day look for a source better than Spalding's Guide saying they are the strongest team. You will have to trust me that implies I will find it or similar if I, say, renew my newspapers.com account or really dig elsewhere. As for saying that few conference games means they wouldn't be declared a champion, I think you should compare the football list (and SIAA football list), the history of which I can speak about much more confidently than basketball history (though as a player, I like to think I can shoot a little bit, while tackling and catching flyballs is no thank you. I tried to extend my efforts there to baseball and basketball a little). Even though in 1890 Virginia got drubbed by Princeton, they were champions of the South just for trying. 1890 is also Vanderbilt football's first year, and so Fuzzy Woodruff's History of Southern Football begins in 1890. It seems to me, combine what Donahue says with Virginia's first year under the legendary Henry Lannigan, and I bet had they written a "History of Southern Basketball" it would be 1906-present, with champions for each year. Or perhaps like with the founding of the SIAA in 1895, each year beginning the second year. The short version is that just as there were mythical national championships there were mythical regional championships, and those eventually became what is known as conference champions much as the former became what is known a College Football Playoff Champions and BCS National Champions and so on. Cake (talk) 21:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

PS of the football which I know better, the 1908 Auburn team has to be the favorite of the Auburn squads. George Sparkman was one of my ancestor's coaches (in high school), and Lewie Hardage another. And Hardage just a legend in his own right. 1913 and 1914 are great too though. Hard to dislike Kirk Newell. I also once contacted the relatives of Moon Ducote to tell them the kick-off-the-helmet story (they had a few details wrong to take away from just how fun it was). I see your interest is basketball, but in those days it seems like everybody was a three-sport star born to be an athletic director rather than just a coach. Cake (talk) 14:29, 12 April 2023 (UTC) Cake (talk) 14:23, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Auburn–UAB men's basketball rivalry for deletion

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Formatting

Could you please clearly format your !vote within the AfD discussion (as I did)? There are several bots running which will not recognize your !vote as "keep". You can also start a new comment if you want. (Nice work with the article by the way; sorry you have to deal with this. I highly recommend applying for a Newspapers.com account through Wikipedia Library if you can.) Cielquiparle (talk) 19:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Done, and good looking out with those sources! Seems like there is a large scale push from some users to remove a lot of these highly regional CBB rivalries, which would be a shame. AuburnShuffle (talk) 19:15, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

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