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Charles Dickens

By including text from Encyclopaedia Britanica, you appear to have introduced a point of view to the article, for instance "As to the books themselves, the backgrounds on which these mighty figures are projected, they are manifestly too vast, too chaotic and too unequal ever to become classics". I will add this to the article's talk page in a while. Stephenb (Talk) 14:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I hadn't realized that aspect of it. I thought the observations were interesting, but they are very POV and therefore inappropriate to the WP entry. I undid the edit. Still looks as if some citations needed, but I was stretching a bit anyway to edit a complex article I am not that familiar with. I had just added the EB1911 article to Wikisource. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:30, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

That's OK, thanks for thinking about it and reverting. Stephenb (Talk) 14:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Ludwig and Louis Blenker

Hi! I came across an article you started, Ludwig Blenker, while new page patrolling and happened to snoop out an older article, Louis Blenker, which appears to be about the same person. According to this both could be acceptable names. They need to be merged, but I'm unsure to which. Undoubtedly are more familiar with this topic than I, what do you think? THEN WHO WAS PHONE? (talk) 12:06, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. I will merge them. I had never heard him called Louis. Since the other was created first, I will merge into that and redirect Ludwig. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 16:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

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Poetry Project

Thanks for adding banner templates for the Wikiproject Poetry to a couple articles. Just so you know, however, the correct template to add on article talk pages is "{{WPPoetry}}", not the outdated "WikiProject Poetry". Thanks! --Midnightdreary (talk) 13:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 13:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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cf. similar translation in Timpani, see if you like this, I would prefer consensus before we proceed with this on other articles. SimonTrew (talk) 14:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

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All done, cast your eye over it to make sure it is to your satisfaction. Can we Wikify the references? (e.g. Aris. Quin. is that Aristotle V? I couldn't find a suitable Aristotle on WP). SimonTrew (talk) 21:13, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Glad it's OK with you. I realised my translation of the second sentence in the quote in Timpani was completely wrong-- there are so many English words that are telescoped into one Latin word that if you go off in the wrong direction you can just completely get it wrong-- so I think it is better now. I've made a couple of minor tweaks where I couldn't decide which was the better English word, and probably will continue to, but basically it can be considered done, I think, as far as translation is concerned. Pleased to help.

If you are importing others of this kind from EB1911 with similar bits of Latin by all means leave me a message on my user page before listing at WP:PNT. Oh, I guess that happens automatically though... SimonTrew (talk) 00:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Nigidius Figulus

You recently edited the introduction, and I'm wondering about your reasoning. The primary interest in Nigidius Figulus following his lifetime (and to a great extent during his lifetime) lies in his Pythagoreanism and occultism; it is explicit Wiki-practice that the introduction of an article should outline or point to the major reasons someone might be looking up a particular topic. His political connections, though these ground him in the realities of this time, are of interest primarily because they stand in contrast to his semi-legendary status in the medieval and Renaissance tradition; he was not a major political figure. Please see Wikipedia:Lead section: "The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article." Cynwolfe (talk) 10:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Adding links to 1911 encyclopedia

Hello, I would strongly suggest that you only add a link to the 1911 Encyclopedia Brittanica article if it's in an area you know a lot about already, and can vouch for the accuracy of the article. There are a lot of fields where the state of knowledge in 1911 was not very good, and so if you automatically lead readers to this encyclopedia, you risk leading them astray. Yours sincerely, Opus33 (talk) 19:35, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

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Jacob Leisler

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Thanks for all your good work on that article. --Orlady (talk) 00:20, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

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Appletons

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Notability

Hi there. Not meaning to be rude, but could you possibly supply me with a couple of sentences covering the notability of John Higginson (Puritan) and Philip Embury? I have also asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography for a check. I don't want to go in guns blazing and tag it for something, but would appreciate a double check from you or a third party, as I am not all-too-well informed on the topic. Cheers, SGGH ^ping! 18:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

These both are linked into existing articles. In the case of Higginson, there was a mis-link to the other John Higginson. I don't think there is a notability problem here. I certainly run into Appletons' articles where there is, and I don't bring them to Wikipedia. I think both deserve a {{onesource}} template. I don't bother with it unless someone else takes a shot. But I can't see an issue with notability. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 19:03, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Righto, I'm sure its fine. Cheers. SGGH ^ping! 20:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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I left a note for a previous article. This information comes from Appletons' Cyclopædia of American Biography and is in the public domain. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 20:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Fernando de Alva Cortés Ixtlilxochitl

Could you provide references for the information you just added to the article? It would be a vast improvement as the article lacks citations at the moment. Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 18:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi

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Nicely done on the Arnold Hague article

Been wanting to get Hague done for a while now. Great job. Thanks--Mike Cline (talk) 13:43, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. I had a very scenic tour linking it into the rest of Wikipedia. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

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Must be using the same public domain text I am. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:59, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

FYI, if you're writing so closely to the PD text as in this article, you should use {{Appletons}} as well as {{Cite Appletons'}}. That should keep CSBot from tagging it as a copyright problem (and if not, then CSBot will be shortly corrected). Sorry about the false positive there. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Similarly with your earlier articles which copied from EB 1911, they can and should be tagged with {{1911}} and that'll keep CSBot (and copyright workers like me) from overreacting. Keep up the good work! VernoWhitney (talk) 17:18, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

but there is another problem with appleton's : it is notoriously unreliable--see the article on it. I would never use it as a sole source without confirming at least that the person did actually exist--G Books should usually work for that, and then you'll have a second ref.

EB is at least reliable, as being free from that sort of error, but it is reliable only for the view taken of the subject a century ago, which is likely by current standards to be incomplete, and often prejudiced. My own view, which I admit is not universally shared, is that everything from either source should be rewritten using modern sources. DGG ( talk ) 20:13, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes I would be glad to see CSBot corrected. I link to full text in Wikisource and that text has a link to a disclaimer enumerating various problems, which do go beyond imaginary people sometimes. Appletons' is regarded as reliable and valuable by many people, even those, like myself, who have found problem entries. I don't think it was as well checked as Britannica, but many sources aren't. But like EB, Appletons' had some very notable contributors, and many valuable anonymous articles. For a person from the New World, as myself, there are a lot of people of interest in its pages which aren't available in Britannica, or treated in more detail or with different detail than in Britannica. I do confirm the entries I move to Wikipedia correspond to real people, but this seems only really necessary for items which refer to Latin American visits by obscure Europeans. I have read the article on Appletons' and actually did a lot of work on it. I think information from all sources can be valuable, new and old. Certainly information from any reliable source would benefit these articles, and I think tagging articles as stubs communicates this, although if it is a long article I tend to rate it as start. I do expect them to grow, and frequently I am the one who grows them with information from other sources, and sometimes I will start an article with multiple sources, but frequently not, although I do anticipate there are other sources available which will at some point be used to supplement the basic core derived from Appletons'. I put them up because they seem interesting or fill gaps in Wikipedia's article space or both. {{Cite Appletons'}} does put a category tag exactly like that of {{Appletons}} but allows it to be disabled if the tag is used just as a link. I plagiarize from all sorts of public domain resources, including things I have found on G Books, and usually provide links to the original source. I see no need to put an extra notice to this effect. I think no extra tags beyond a link to the original source are required, but perhaps a generic hidden category indicating plagiarization from public domain texts would be useful. Certainly I don't want to make more work for hunters for copyright problems, but I am not interested in rewriting if it doesn't seem necessary, and sometimes the original is very well written and it seems useful to recycle it. Modern sources have their own biases, sometimes very pronounced. I think the Appletons' information has provided starts for valuable new articles, and valuable additions to existing articles. I have great hopes for C. J. Hempel. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 16:00, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't know anything about reliability problems with Appletons, and I agree with you that public domain sources are often very useful and well written. I would like to emphasize, however that our guideline on plagiarism, specifically Wikipedia:Plagiarism#Public domain sources states that "such material must be properly attributed." I've noticed that you generally attribute it appropriately in your edit summaries (at least for Appletons'), and thanks for mentioning the info about {{Cite Appleton's}}, I'll pass along to Coren and hopefully we can keep CSBot from tagging those articles in the future. If you use edit summaries, that's fine, but please remember to mention every source you are copying from; and if you are using other templates to provide the attribution, feel free to mention it to Coren (or me) if you get tagged for something that you feel it should have ignored. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:37, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

On consulting my dictionary, I see I am misusing "plagiarize." I do attribute everything I use, public domain or otherwise. Sorry for the mixup. The bot seems to do pretty well. The latest wrinkle is it complains when it finds nominally non-public domain sources that have also copied from Appletons' like I do, and that was probably the case with Hempel. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 17:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Johannes and Bertha Ronge

I concur with your assessment of the correct surname for this couple. See the links I provided on their talk pages. I've changed the name throughout both articles. Could you change the article names? Thanks! 75.2.209.226 (talk) 04:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for your backup research. Sorry to see Bertha Ronge article got deleted due to copyright infringement. It's good it got deleted because it was infringing, but it would be best to have a non-infringing article. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 19:59, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with the article title. A Bertha Ronge article would be good. I had started working on the fractured English of the previous one when I discovered its origins. I'd be willing to work on another article on her, just not immediately. 75.2.209.226 (talk) 01:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

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Question about references to classical works in text of 1911 EB

hi, Bob! What edition of the Greek classics is used as a reference in the 1911 Britannica? For example, in the article about Tyrtaeus (the poet) there are the following references: Justin iii. 5, Plato "Laws", p. 629 A, Herodotus ix. 35, Strabo viii. 362, Athenaeus xiv. 630 F, Pausanias iv. 14, 5. 15, 2, etc. To me it suggests references to a "standard edition" of the Greek classics that was widely used in 1911. It becomes an issue because in the Wikipedia article on Tyrtaeus, for example, some of these are used as references in footnotes. But, if I had to go to a library and try to look up Strabo viii. 362, I wouldn't even know what book to look in. Can you shed any light on this for me? Kenatipo (talk) 17:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

It's old stuff, so I would start by looking through translations on Project Gutenberg, archive.org or books.google.com. You can orient yourself with the Wikipedia article. Like with Strabo, I think it must refer to a book on geography he wrote. Strabo viii. 362 must be Volume 8, p. 362 or paragraph 362 or whatever of his Geographica. I would think it would be obvious when you get a copy of the book. Whatever EB1911 used, it must be available at one or all of those three places. The divisions must be pretty standard, like Bible citations. It's just different authors used different schemes for sectioning their books. And if they only wrote one, as apparently is the case with Strabo, then I guess they don't even bother mentioning its title. I doubt that it is critical to find exactly the edition EB1911 was using. Hope this helps. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 02:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Bob. You're right -- we only have one "work" each from Strabo, Justin, Diod. Sic., Herodotus, Athenaeus, and Pausanias so the cites in EB1911 leave out the name of the work and go straight to the "book" and "section" number. The Perseus website at perseus.tufts.edu is also a good resource along with the ones you named. Thanks again. Kenatipo (talk) 18:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

EB 1911 and Wikisource

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Thanks for doing this. See my comments at Template talk:1911. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 11:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Bob I hope I have fixed the noicon parameter. But it is not clear to me if one can pass in an empty parameter and test it as not being not null. So I can see how you handled it in the previous incarnation could you place on my talk page a couple of the pages where you passed in the noicon parameter. -- PBS (talk) 02:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. A typical use is at the bottom of the Encyclopedia article in the external links section. See also {{CathEncy}} doc (at the bottom) where I made a similar request and handled the documentation update once it was done. I can do that for this as well. A user can just set the parameter as in noicon=x as if it were a check box. It can be set to any value (except nothing) and it will work. If noicon does not appear in the paramater list, or is not set to a value, the icon appears as usual. I'll copy this to your talk page.

• Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

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Seems like I should be able to. Its all from the references cited. Most of it came from the base Appletons' reference. I haven't bothered with individual citations for that; I just cited it as a base reference. The complete text is in Wikisource. A remark in the caption came from the house website, and that I think should have a citation, and I fixed that. I plan to add info from DAB eventually, like his wife came back from Ephrata in 1744. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 13:57, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

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This material is from the 1921 Collier's and is in the public domain. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:27, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

So it's not a copyright problem, but it still needs to be made clear that the text is copied from the source per WP:PLAGIARISM. Is there a corresponding template for Collier's similar to {{1911}} where you're not just using it as a reference? VernoWhitney (talk) 14:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

No, there is nothing like {{1911}} for Collier's. I always figured it was obvious enough that it was being copied by providing a link to the source. Thank you for bringing the policy to my attention. The {{DNB}} and {{Cite DNB}} pair can probably be adapted to something for Collier's. I have problems with the {{Cite EB1911}} and {{1911}} pair as currently implemented because the former automatically includes the "copied" categories even when the template is merely being used as a link. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

I did notice the conversation at Cite EB1911, so I think I'll let you two figure out exactly how you want to handle the categories and whatnot with that situation and then I'll go ahead and set up similar templates for other PD sources where we only have the Cite template. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

I added a flag to {{Cite Collier's}} so an appropriate notice can be displayed. This is now used in Charles Henry Tyler Townsend. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 19:35, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

That works. Thanks! VernoWhitney (talk) 20:04, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Cite EB1911

See Template talk:Cite EB1911. I suggest that we can discuss improvements there. -- PBS (talk) 22:33, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Update, not good news as yet, but see Template talk:Cite EB1911#Code. -- PBS (talk) 16:45, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

OK the people over at help talk:template have put me strait on an important point. I can now fix the problem and I will implement the code and test it shortly. But having lots of variables doing the same thing is not a good idea, which leads me to my next heads up. Please see Template talk:Cite DNB#March 2011. -- PBS (talk) 19:20, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

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Removal of plagiarism notice

In 2009 you converted some articles which contained the {{1911}} to {{Wikisource1911Enc Citation}} eg Revision as of 14:28, 13 July 2009 of Bernard Mandeville. I know why you did it because at the time the 1911 template did not have wikisource capabilities and you wanted to include a link to wikisource. The trouble is, in making that conversion you removed the attribution that the article contains text copied from EB1911 -- as does Bernard Mandeville -- that is required to meet plagiarism requirements. Do you have a list of those articles you converted? -- PBS (talk) 15:20, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

No. My contributions history can probably shed some light on the matter. I did think having the link to Wikisource was much more important than the plagiarism notice, though indeed if I'd been more thoughtful I would have left both. With a Wikisource link the source text is readily available for inspection and any copying is abundantly obvious, so I think the notice is less vital in this situation than in others, though my current policy is to include it. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

George Müller

Hi Bob

I tried following the link you inserted regarding Encyclopedia Britannica and got the message "Wikisource does not have a text with this exact name" - you might want to revisit that edit! Regards Silver Shiney (talk) 12:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks! Bob Burkhardt (talk) 13:23, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

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It looks like it meets the guidelines at WP:Notability to me. Can you be more specific? I have added an external link to the article which supports the notability claim. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 18:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

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You will need several references to WP:RS to establish notability. As an un-performed play it does not appear to be the subject of any critical commentary. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:06, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

It has been performed, and it is published. The article itself notes a performance, and has one critical review which had been deleted in an earlier edit (now restored), and an external link has further review and description. There are two reliable sources, and I imagine more are available. It is a stub, and needs development, but it does meet the notability criteria. Please read the latest version of the article. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 13:17, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Infobox academic

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Scientist is an inappropriate label for many academics. Perhaps the two infoboxes will part company at some point, but a redirect seems appropriate for now, and I plan to continue using Infobox academic. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:15, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Johannes von Ronge

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Talk:Johannes_von_Ronge

Bob Burkhardt, I see that you moved this article to Johannes Ronge, it looks like that got undo. The issue came up at RSN, which is how I got involved. I'm not sure of the mechanics, how would I be able to move the article to Johannes Ronge without messing up the history and talk pages? --Nuujinn (talk) 09:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

You might want to take a look at this, it's been undone again, article's locked, and we're in discussions about the man's name. --Nuujinn (talk) 19:14, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

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I'm posting this message on your talk page because I noticed that you've recently created the new article Robbins Little--You did an excellent job with including references and citations. However, I think the article seems to contain a few errors: the article does not contain in-line citations, and so doesn't follow Wikipedia style guidelines. It would be great if you could also Wikify the related article John Shaw Billings.

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Thanks for the link. I made the changes in Robbins Little. I made two edits to Billings as well, but in-line citations for the refs seem more problematic for someone not familiar with them since they aren't very specific and I imagine the sources for several are not readily available.

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Vegaswikian closed, and then at my request, reopened discussion of what title the Johannes von Ronge/Johannes von Rönge/Johannes Ronge article should have. Since I think the way we've been describing what we as individual editors see as the appropriate title, I am asking prior participants to !vote explicitly on each of the three options at Talk:Johannes von Ronge, hence this notice. The article has also been listed at WP:RM. Thank you for your participation, --Nuujinn (talk) 19:25, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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The unnamed parameter makes life much easier for an editor. I code templates myself and I know it is simple to incorporate. I think we should have it both ways. Just for that one parameter. No objection to you using wstitle as well. Please meet me half way for the sake of editor convenience. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 16:10, 8 December 2011 (UTC) And on reflection, I don't think the unnamed parameter poses any problem for error checking since there is just one. It just makes those 10,000 links to Wikisource easier to code. And those who like the wstitle decoration are welcome to use wstitle. For ease of use, I think the unnamed parameter should be an option for all the citation templates that link to Wikisource, and wstitle too if you want. To some extent, it seems like your penchant for putting "Attribution" in front of references. To me it seems like a useless decoration, but maybe there is something you are trying to communicate, so I have started leaving it alone when I find it. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:52, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Well actually now I am removing Attribution when I find it. It just looks like a piece of graffiti to me, not a constructive edit. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 21:27, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps the "Attribution" note is part of an effort to get in-line citations when there are multiple references. I admit in many cases this can be helpful, and I use in-line citations much of the time. I tend to neglect them when there are just a few references whose text is readily available. Along with eliminating the "Attribution," I have been changing {{unreferenced}} to {{nofootnotes}} which I think makes the problem you are addressing clear. I hope this is satisfactory. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 00:43, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

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Sorry, it was already there. The link needs to be last name first, and is now fixed. Thanks for the notification! Bob Burkhardt (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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Yes, that's it. It's kind of a standard routine I've seen, at least in Appletons', although they didn't have to use it for this particular article segment. I thought it was important to get across where he fits in in the family tree. If you have a more graceful way of getting the information across, please have at it. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 20:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Regarding recent moves around trap ball and knurr and spell. I don't object in theory to the move, but looking at the trap ball article, the biggest unreferenced part is about it being called trap ball (with or without hyphen). As it stands, I am tempted to move the whole article back to Knurr and Spell, as we have citations for that, but maybe you have some refs you can add about trap ball?

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My work was not so much a move as an integration of two articles on the same subject which had grown up separately. As I said on the now-integrated talk page, to me "Knurr and Spell" seems like the best label for the page. Except for EB1911, which calls it "Trap-ball" (with an archaic hyphen which should be removed in everything except the article link), all the encyclopedia articles I have found call it "Knurr and Spell", perhaps with slight variations. I recently transcribed an article from 1905 NIE on "Knurr and Spell" which I think will have some interesting content to add to the article, and I hope to get that into the article today. When I do that, I can do a copy turning "Knurr and Spell" into the main article and "Trap-ball" into the redirect. A move, which would require administrator intervention, I don't think has value here, since I don't see how both histories can be preserved, so we might as well do it the quick-and-dirty way. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 19:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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Hey Bob, the debate over bird names has been thrashed out several times over the past several years - birds are unique among animals in that they are officially designated common names and hence capitalised. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you point me to the article or discussion on this issue? Bob Burkhardt (talk) 20:45, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Where to start.....Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds#Bird_names_and_article_titles, which is linked directly from Wikipedia:Article titles, is the current convention. This debate comes up at least once or twice a year - I need some time to dig up the arguments. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll try that to start and get back to you if I need more. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 21:01, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Bob; if you want to trawl through old flamewars here's another place that people argue about this: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters. If you're interested in fixing capitalization, I would suggest work on any other kind of animal—mammals, amphibians, etc—if they're interesting to you. As far as I can tell consensus is that those should/can be moved to lowercase. Thanks, ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 22:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 22:54, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

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There's nothing wrong with relevant red links; please don't remove them from articles unless they're completely ridiculous. See WP:REDDEAL.—Chowbok ☠ 17:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I think they are ugly, particularly when there are a lot, and the default display puts a line through them which makes them difficult to read. Once an article is written, links can be put in. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 17:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

It's much harder to find the links once they've been removed. If you don't like the way they display, you can change it in your stylesheet (I'd be happy to help you with that if you're not familiar with CSS), but please don't go against WP policy.—Chowbok ☠ 02:16, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

How so? A simple search on the article name will display all the instances. I do it all the time when I write a new article. I leave a redlink occasionally, but I don't just plaster an article with them, or a paragraph, as with Franklin Benjamin Sanborn.Bob Burkhardt (talk) 01:27, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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I liked your new article on George Lincoln Blackwell, but I noticed there was no year listed for his death. It took me a little while, but I found out when and where Rev. Blackwell passed away [1]. I added that to the article. Thank you. And Adoil Descended (talk) 01:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

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This remains unresolved. I will think upon it. Carl Schurz mentions Immortellen in his Reminiscences of the Revolutions of 1848 in Germany, and I think the same species may be meant here, but at this point I am not sure which one. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

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I left some ambiguous since my sources are not sufficient to distinguish. New York seems like a pretty ambiguous place (e.g. 2 Brightons and 2 Chesters), but Wikipedia seems to overdo it. When a village is included within a town (Seneca Falls and Deposit), the town seems like the logical default with a note about the village. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:57, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

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Nicholas van Rensselaer

Thanks for you addition, now if you were able to find info on a Philip P van Rensselaer I'd clean out your garage for free :P JGVR (talk) 03:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Philip doesn't seem to be in the Appletons' article, so I doubt I will run across him, and will have to leave the garage in its present miserable shape. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 03:19, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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I took a closer look, unfortunately this family had a bent for recycling names. as a result I started a rage and transferred what info you added -- to that page Nicholas van Rensselaer JGVR (talk) 04:00, 21 December 2012 (UTC) LOL there was no rage but a Page I did start :P JGVR (talk) 04:02, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

A move would have been more appropriate. Wikipedia isn't a genealogy site. I would say the dreadfully obscure Van Rensselaers should just remain notes on their parents' pages. And I think the disambiguation more properly belongs on the obscure fellow. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

So I added a disambiguation to the obscure fellow, and repaired the links and orphaned talk page that resulted from a copy being used instead of a move. There may be one or two links you have made to Nicholas Van Rensselaer that now need to be sent to Nicholas Van Rensselaer (soldier). Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:41, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Two days ago NEITHER Nicholas had a page, With me so far? I made one for a Revolutionary soldier. then YOU come along totally deface it with info on a reverend without even bothering to look at dates or anything. So I REPAIRED YOU MISTAKE! And you turn RIGHT back around and screw it all back up without ANY regard to My having links to it and all. I thought you liked trying to HELP people and you are hijacking articles. JGVR (talk) 17:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

OK I actually made a REAL disambiguation page. Hopefully we can both be satisfied with the ORDINARY style, rather than trying to force me into changing links on other pages to fit in an out of the ordinary style.JGVR (talk) 18:38, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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It's there with the other sources: the New International Encyclopedia. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 00:51, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for bringing some of the content from the Americana Encyclopedia to Cooper articles. At one point, I was trying to build those articles up, but have since slowed down on my Wikimedia contributions. Glad to see someone is building those! Sadads (talk) 13:36, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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This is just a courtesy visit to inform you that I took the liberty to make a slight addition to your article. I hope you'd like my little effort. I'd appreciate your say on this. best regards. (MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 18:31, 19 June 2013 (UTC))

Thank you for your additions. I think they moved the article to the start stage. I made a few changes, but preserved your new content. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 01:31, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Gustav Rümelin

@Bob Burkhardt:, would you mind changing the article name Güstav von Rümelin as on other versions? Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 05:24, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

This is the way my source gives his name. I am not inclined to change it. I only have the one source. If there was another English-language source with the "von" I'd think more seriously about changing it. Thanks for your interest. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 16:11, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

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Hi, I have a question about the article on Robert Koehler. If I am reading the history of the article correctly, you are the editor who added in the Works section of the article, "a portrait at the public library at Alexandria, Minnesota." What was your source for this fact and do you know who the portrait is of? Thanks Mgblck (talk) 17:25, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

See  Encyclopedia Americana. 1920. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Missing or empty |title= (help) The source gives no indication of who the portrait is of. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 16:07, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Herman Armour Webster

I agree that HA Webster should not be deleted. I am at work on a full scale bio of him. If you are the author of the page I can send you (less than optimal) photos of his grave at Montparnesse Cemetery in Paris.

I left some information on the talk page which, I hope, will prove that he is notable. If you are the author please e-mail me. Nicodemus (talk) 21:29, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

You were looking at a failed deletion request of three years ago, but thank you for your comment on the talk page. My alter ego, Library Guy, was indeed the author. The article certainly has expanded since I put it together. A major Wikisource activity of mine is transcribing old encyclopedia articles, and an Americana article, and additional internet support, suggested a Wikipedia article about him would be viable. I don't know anything beyond what I posted in the article. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Flower - EB1911

Hallo Bob Burkhardt, thank you for your efforts to add and improve EB1911 links to Wikipedia. However, I have reverted this specific case - with a common topic like "Flower" there should be literally dozens of more modern sources, who better reflect the current level of scientific knowledge. Nothing against EB, I find it often useful for lesser-known or not-so-popular topics. But when more modern sources are available, we should avoid relying on a partially outdated source or external link. Also see WP:ELNO point 1, most if not all of the uncontroversial EB information should already be in the article. or should be added in future improvements. Just wanted to explain my revert of your good-faith edit in a bit more detail. Best regards. GermanJoe (talk) 17:20, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

I think the EB links are useful for people looking to get an idea on how knowledge on the topic has evolved, and perhaps some of its examples are good for additional amplification. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 17:48, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hi! I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm afraid I've had to blank James C. Carter and list it at WP:CP. It seems that essentially all the content you split off from Carter Ledyard & Milburn was copyvio, copy-pasted from a book, Francis M. Ellis, ‎Edward F. Clark (1988), A brief history of Carter, Ledyard & Milburn, from 1854 to 1988. For example, the first sentence, "James Coolidge Carter was born in Lancaster, Massachusetts on October 14, 1827, the youngest child of a large and needy family" had been copied verbatim, from page 13. Just in case it's not completely clear from the way I've phrased this: I don't believe you could have known anything about this problem, which is the work of other editors (I haven't yet established just how many of them). Anyway, I'm afraid the page needs to be completely rewritten if it's to be kept – unless of course the book itself had copied directly from some public-domain source, in which case we'd just need to add attribution. Anyway, I can tell you I'd be just furious if this happened to me after I'd put in work on something. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:00, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

I can put something together out of my PD encyclopedias and DAB when you are ready. Thanks for the notification. Starting the article by copying from another without being familiar with its sources was a bad move on my part. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:49, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

That's good news, at least. I don't know if you've ever done one of these before, but in case you haven't: please follow this link to create a temporary page, please freely copy over the infobox, references, categories and so on from the old version, and please don't copy over any running text unless you're sure you wrote it yourself. Once the page has been started (and it doesn't matter how rudimentary it is), drop a note here or on the talk-page of the old version, and I'll ask someone to move it into place. If you prefer, I can start the page, copy over the non-creative content and so on, and leave the hard work – the actual writing – for you to do at your leisure. Let me know if you'd like me to do that. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:43, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I'd appreciate it if you'd start a skeleton for me. Thank you. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

With pleasure! Done, it's here. I've copied over all the previous references but just dumped most of them into the middle of the page, so they'll need some sorting out. I can ask at any time for the rewrite to be moved into the place of the former article (which will then disappear). I've not yet done so in case you wanted to refer to the previous text for guidance, but please let me know as soon as you are ready for that to happen. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:13, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

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Please excuse my writing on WP about a WS article; I think most of us monitor this space more frequently. I'm editing the EB1911 "Vestments" article for reasons too obscure to go into, and was puzzling over how to float the bishop images into a place approximating the same place as in the printed books. The problem is that the normal File/thumb syntax forces a paragraph break, and the images are often in the middle of the typically long EB1911 paragraph. Then I stumbled across the Img float template, which only exists in WS, presumably for just this purpose. It uses an HTML span element to corral the image and supporting text as close as possible to the source location. See the first image in that article, here: s:Page:EB1911_-_Volume_27.djvu/1086 (still not replicating the text outdenting and l/r justification though). @DivermanAU: I see that you have used table markup for a similar purpose. Is there some community guidance I've missed? I've already taken the liberty of adding this discovery to s:Wikisource:WikiProject 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Style Manual, in part so that I don't forget it myself. Also @PBS:. David Brooks (talk) 19:17, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

David, Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I usually use a table set to left or right alignment for this purpose, but this restricts me to placing images at the beginning of a paragraph. The facility you have found seems more flexible, and I haven't seen it until now. I will keep it in mind. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 19:41, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

I'll also consider the Img float template — I usually use something like <table style="float: left;... as that's what the Gutenberg EB1911 proofers have used and I often copy from there. DivermanAU (talk) 20:35, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

So far I've found this technique especially helpful in NSRW which usually has very short, simple captions. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 16:57, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

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I see that you added a Master's degree from Hanover College to the education of Dr. Harvey Wiley (FDA Commissioner) -- sometime back around 2009 or 2010. Do you have a source for this? To my knowledge, Hanover College has never issued Master's degrees, and Dr. Wiley does not mention one in his quite detailed autobiography of 1930. Here is a link to the revisions: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harvey_Washington_Wiley&type=revision&diff=397115977&oldid=391832774 Jeromewiley (talk) 02:39, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Just see the source listed in the footnote, the 12th edition of Britannica: "He was educated at Hanover (Ind.) College (A.B.1867; A.M.1870)..." The articles miss from time to time. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 16:15, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Excellent! Thank you! Tracking this down. Not sure if my local library has the print version of the 12th ed. Britannica, so emailed Hanover College directly to see if they have records of this. Jeromewiley (talk) 19:29, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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Apologies for not following all of the correct procedures. I'm a newbie here.Mollifiednow (talk) 18:08, 30 September 2020 (UTC) @Finegall: Apologies for not following all of the correct procedures. I'm a newbie here.Mollifiednow (talk) 18:14, 30 September 2020 (UTC) @Finngall:

Nomination of George Ticknor (journalist) for deletion

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I am surprised I put this ACAB knock off on Wikipedia. You are right; doesn't seem notable. This was one of my early efforts. Thanks for the opportunity to comment. I am also surprised it lasted as long as it did. Thank you for taking the trouble to delete it. Library Guy (talk) 13:31, 31 August 2020 (UTC) a.k.a. Bob Burkhardt I have redone the links above to go to the appropriate article. George Ticknor (the notable one) should certainly be spared, and I will save one of your comments below with the relevant link for future reference:

• Page 1 of the referenced PDF (Hunnewell, James Melville, ed. (1919). The Ticknor Family in America : Being an Account of the Descendants of William Ticknor of Scituate, and of Other Immigrants named Ticknor or Tickner. Boston. Retrieved July 5, 2017.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)) calls the subject George Ticknor, however, see PDF page 137 and 139 (page 60-61 in the source document) his correct name was George Benjamin. He used the name Ticknor & Co., when he purchased/managed the NH Sentinel.

As a newbie to Wikipedia, I was a little bit nervous to nominate. The article was on a list I received from the suggestion bot. It was interesting, however, to learn a little bit more :) I'm glad I could help. Best Mollifiednow (talk) 23:15, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

The genealogy was interesting. There are other Ticknors it could be useful for. My reading of it (thanks for your citation) doesn't indicate George Ticknor's name was ever George Benjamin. His father had Benjamin as a first name and one of his kids had that name. There always seems to be lots to learn on Wikimedia. I work on Wikisource most of the time. There ADAB and NIE have been fruitful sources for Wikipedia biographies, but now I make sure I have some other references as well. Thanks again for your efforts. Honestly it's tough to see one of the biographies I wrote disappear, but I think it was for the best on this particular one. Library Guy (talk) 15:31, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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