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Re: Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union

First of all, please see Talk:Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union#Lead. Second of all, while you may be quite familiar with the history of the Soviet Union, we are not writing for you we are writing for our readers. Third of all, the opening lead sentence, "In the Soviet Union, systematic political abuse of psychiatry took place" is not acceptable prose for a GA-class article, and at this point the article should probably be delisted because you are not open to cleaning it up. It is not "needless" to add "In the twentieth century", and I cleaned up the prose by writing, "In the twentieth century, systematic political abuse of psychiatry took place in the Soviet Union", which is an acceptable opening sentence that explains when and where the subject took place for our readers. Would you like the community to reassess this article or would you like to help fix the terrible prose? Viriditas (talk) 12:00, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Asylums (book)

That book is not that far from a GA, if you'd feel like polishing this up. Just a thought. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:13, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I don't think I require it at this point. You wouldn't happen to have an electronic copy of Goffman’s Legacy, by any chance? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

No, I don't.--Psychiatrick (talk) 06:50, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

FYI

• New development?. My very best wishes (talk) 05:25, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
• Sort of. Though I think public is unaware of all similar cases and pays attention to what is a tip of iceberg. --Psychiatrick (talk) 14:21, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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This user has contributed to Erving Goffman good articles on Wikipedia.

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Участник англоязычной Википедии FiachraByrne порекомендовал мне обратиться к вам за помощью в переводе моих дополнений к статье "Discipline and Punish".

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Я русский и живу в России на Северном Урале в городе Березники. Я изучал английский язык только с помощью словарей и учебников. Я окончил философский факультет УрГУ. Я попробовал разместить 7 статей в английской Википедии, из которых модераторы удалили 3 статьи из-за моего плохого перевода с русского на английский. Я имею 17 статей на русской Википедии и хочу перевести и разместить их в английской Википедии. Я интересуюсь социологией, конфликтологией и психологической теорией Юнга о типах личности. Я опубликовал в Российском интернете учебник "Интересное обществознание" и книгу "Четыре типа личности: техник, психолог, спикер и теоретик". В России я публикуюсь везде под ником Валерий Стариков, а в Америке везде под ником Valery Staricov Valery Staricov (talk) 15:53, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

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The participant of English-speaking Wikipedia FiachraByrne recommended to me to ask you for the help in the translation of my additions to the article "Discipline and Punish".

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I am Russian and I live in Russia in Northern Urals in the city of Berezniki. I learned English by means of dictionaries and textbooks only. I graduated from philosophical faculty of Ural State University. I tried to place 7 articles in English Wikipedia from which moderators removed 3 articles because of my bad translation from Russian into English. I have 17 articles on the Russian Wikipedia and I want to translate and place them in English Wikipedia. I am interested in sociology, conflictology and Jung's psychological theory about types of the personality. I published on the Russian Internet the textbook "Interesting Social Science" and the book "Four types of the personality: technician, psychologist, speaker and theorist". I am published everywhereIn Russia under a nickname Валерий Стариков, and I am published in America everywhere under nickname Valery Staricov Valery Staricov (talk) 15:53, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

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So, I checked the book by Applebaum, and yes, the quote is correct; this is page 549. Moreover, on page 550, "Nekipelov witnessed" "lumbar punctures" in Serbsky Institute - a needle to the spine leading to paralysis of the victim for a few days. But a better book is "Proshanie slavyanki" by Novodvorskaya. She tells about two types of torture (all personnel in "special" psykhushka knew that was not a medical institution, but a torture chamber): (a) purely physical torture (air under the skin, a professional dentist-torturer - that is what they did to her) and (b) destruction of brain by various chemical - that is why she signed everything and was released as a broken person - never had children, etc. I was so impressed that even dedicated her a little poem here. My very best wishes (talk) 03:11, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much. --Psychiatrick (talk) 03:23, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, this is 2003 edition (not a paperback). However, I am going to be inactive for at least a month. All the best. My very best wishes (talk) 12:59, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

I have long been reading your poems and like them.--Psychiatrick (talk) 02:29, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Do you like anything in particular? BTW, I saw your comments about current political events. Welcome to contribute! Just remember that you would spend your time more productively by contributing directly to content/article space per WP:RS, rather than by conducting general political discussions. Unfortunately, I do not have time to contribute and will probably stop editing here at all any time soon.My very best wishes (talk) 04:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh man, I did not mean this... Yes, this war is really mind-boggling. Some believe it is partly funded by the Ukrainian government against itself [2]. But whatever. Bye, My very best wishes (talk) 16:24, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

The European Union led by Brussels has the intention to keep Ukraine in Brussels’s orbit but does not have force of gravity sufficient to do so. The European Union is simply too weak economically to integrate the whole of Ukraine, so Ukraine is being torn to pieces between Brussels and Moscow by their forces of gravity. The war is just a natural process indicating the disintegration of Ukraine. Prior to the war, Ukraine was in Moscow’s orbit and then was moved aside from it. I do not like the war. That is a civil war between the Western Ukraine and the Eastern Ukraine where pro-Russian insurgents and Russian volunteers are participating in the war. The actions of Russia toward Ukraine are no more aggressive than those of the European Union and the USA toward Russia, including euromaidan, the ouster of Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovich, economic sanctions, threats, international isolation. Psychiatrick (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

There is nothing "natural" about this war. The war (starting from occupation of Crimean legislature by Russian special forces) was decided by one person in Moscow. If he decided differently, there would be no war. But we are not going to argue about this here per WP:SOAP. Good luck! You and others will need it. My very best wishes (talk) 19:41, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

One person in Moscow has a lot advisers such as Aleksandr Dugin who prompted him how to react to euromaidan and the opportunity of deploying NATO bases in Crimea. One person in Moscow made the best decision for the defensive capacity of Russia. The European Union, which promoted the euromaiadan in Ukraine, needs a common enemy for European consolidation and cannot exist without NATO bases all over its territory. Psychiatrick (talk) 19:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

So, you do believe that Dugin was a good adviser? My very best wishes (talk) 01:48, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Any adviser is good when his advice is accepted. Over the last decades, Russian economy has been integrated in common economy of the Western countries. They told Russia what to do and promoted their own interests in Russia without taking Russia’s interests into consideration. Now the Western countries are telling the Western Ukraine what to do and are promoting their own interests there in a more persistent way. As a result, what we see is the expansion of the European Union, a new super empire dominated by the NATO, US military forces. Psychiatrick (talk) 06:45, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh yes, I am sure this war will lead to significant weakening of Russia and expansion of European Union, NATO and ... China. My very best wishes (talk) 03:50, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

The trouble is that neither Putin and Shoygu nor Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk are able to control and command volunteers armed by them and sent to the war. Donbass is full of uncontrollable paramilitary groups, and they are fighting one another without understanding who is their enemies and allies. Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk are trying to use this situation to blame and marginalize Putin and Russia on the international political arena by asserting that a part of the territory of Ukraine is occupyed by Russia even though these paramilitary groups are local inhabitants. Other European politicians are asserting the same. Please note that Ukrainians were armed since shortly after euromaidan allegedly to defend the euromaidan and before pro-Russian insurgents in Donbass took their weapons. Euromaidan destabilized political environment in Ukraine and opened door to the war. Psychiatrick (talk) 00:11, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

This is strange: you seem to believe in conspiracy theories by Dugin and company (as also follows from text on your user page), even after making such edit. My very best wishes (talk) 02:37, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

International sanctions imposed on Russia by western countries almost simultaneously seem to verify conspiracy theories by Dugin and make the war unprofitable to Russia, paving the way for the expansion of the European Union. These sanctions have been proposed and promoted by the USA. Psychiatrick (talk) 11:22, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

All actions by the "West" (there is no such thing as uniform "West") were done very much openly - there is no conspiracy. There were no sanctions (and negligible funding of Ukrainian politics) before the annexation of Crimea. Even after the Crimea, there would be almost no action (as someone said, "they [West] will sell us a rope to hang them"), unless the events in Donbass. Even now, Russia holds significant influence in European organizations, such as OBSE [3], and the rebels in Donbass are mostly under control from Moscow.My very best wishes (talk) 14:22, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

There is such thing as uniform European Union, which is a side of the conflict in Ukraine because the EU wishes to have the whole Ukraine among EU member countries. Also, the EU wishes to impose EU definitions, terms and conditions on Russia, to define Russia’s actions as annexation of Crimea and invasion in Donbass. But there was neither annexation nor unification of Crimea to Russia before coup known as euromaidan in Ukraine. Russia kept and still keeps the whole Ukraine in Moscow’s economic orbit, keeps the fate of Ukraine in Moscow’s hands, and can stop or prolong gas supplies to western Ukraine in the winter. See what was the cause of the conflict: Сергей Караганов (17 September 2014). "Причина этого конфликта — заблуждения Запада, поэтому русские не сдадутся". Russia in Global Affairs (in Russian). 1. Psychiatrick (talk) 16:25, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Indeed, Putin did not like the ousting of his puppet Yanukovich by Euromaidan, and therefore decided to annex Crimea, invade Donbass, and a lot more. But there is a law of unintended consequences. Consider USA. The Iraqi war led to serious weakening of the USA (economically and politically) and growth of Islamic terrorism. That was a catastrophic mistake. Same is here, except that Russia is much weaker. There are many other differences. One of them: US did not ever want to grab Iraqi land, as Russia did with Crimea, Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Or consider Stalin. He had very strong allies who helped him to win WWII. But contemporary Russia has no allies, except perhaps Armenia and Belorussia. To put this simple, Putin and his advisors are losers. But the real problem is different: all people (and not only in Russia) are losers of the Kremlin incompetence. A lot of other governments are also hardly competent, but not that stupid. P.S. The politologist you refer to is laughable. For example, the Soviet Army (and the overall Soviet repression apparatus) was in fact much stronger, because it allowed to keep the entire Eastern Europe and some other parts of the world under the control, in addition to keeping all Soviet republics. But what do we have right now? My very best wishes (talk) 17:33, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

I like Barack Obama rather than Vladimir Putin but this fact does not mean that we must make American maidan on Red Square in Moscow and invite Barack Obama or his representative to rule Russia. American maidan would be a coup. Psychiatrick (talk) 19:16, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

American Maidan was just fine. These propagandists prey on people who do not know history. But I must go. My very best wishes (talk) 19:39, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

As far as I know mores of American politicians, they will try to convince all of US satellites and allies of exerting pressure on Moscow to the last degree at all costs, by hook or by crook. Not because they need Ukraine but because they need to keep the dominant position of the USA in the world and use the war in Ukraine as a pretext for exerting pressure on Moscow and expanding the NATO. The deploying of a NATO base in a country means that any of its presidents and politicians can be ousted of killed by American soldiers on the request of Washington, D.C. That is a too high price to pay for the protection by the NATO. By the way, Putin always kept his promises including his promise made on 7 April 2008. Quote: Addressing to Bush, he [Putin] said: "You know, George, that Ukraine is not even a state! What is Ukraine? A part of its territories is Eastern Europe and another part, a large one, was donated by us!" And then he very transparently hinted that if Ukraine is nevertheless admitted into the NATO, this state will simply cease to exist. That is he actually threatened that Russia can start the secession of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. Source: "Блок НАТО разошелся на блокпакеты". Газета Коммерсантъ (in Russian). 7 April 2008. Psychiatrick (talk) 08:52, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, sure, Putin did not hide his intention to attack Ukraine. However, Ukrainian people believed that it was their right to decide if they want to be with Russia or in NATO. Putin disagrees, because he believes that Ukraine is not a state, contrary to numerous international agreements signed by Russia. My very best wishes (talk) 16:39, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

George Bush did not also hide the plans for expanding the NATO and discussed them with Putin many times to avoid troubles with Russian army. Stopping such discussions resulted in the current troubles. Putin disagrees, because he believes that the NATO should not be expanded. In Putin’s mind, the ideal option to the USA is to have in every country a NATO base and the puppet president like Poroshenko raised to power through a protest campaign, coup d'état and bloodshed. The USA is being gradually involved in the war against Russia over Ukraine. See the source. Along with others, you will pay for it. Psychiatrick (talk) 10:13, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

It's not for Putin to decide anything about Ukraine or other countries (including NATO). NATO did not occupy Ukraine. Putin did. Well, I am certainly not an expert, but I can give you a link on someone who is an expert. Yes, sure, USA will now deliver Hummers and probably a lot more to Ukraine. They could even deliver nuclear weapons because Russia openly violated Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances. But they would not. My very best wishes (talk) 16:27, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Before Poroshenko became Ukraine’s president, the Russians had no problems passing through the “occupied” territory of Ukraine to see their relatives there. After Poroshenko became Ukraine’s president, the Russians began to be called occupants and enemies, they are shot to death along Ukrainian roads. Putin did not bomb Kiev, while Donbass has been destroyed to ruins by bombings and it is not Putin who did so. Moreover, it is Poroshenko, not Putin, who is gaining a profit from the war by receiving money from the USA [4] for restoring Ukraine's economy. Psychiatrick (talk) 18:52, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, indeed, Putin did not bomb Kiev (yet). He bombed Donbass, first from the "Grad" and artillery situated on the Russian territory, and now from the Ukrainan territory occupied by rebels. But this is not only bombing. Many thousands of Ukrainians and Russians (on the both sides) were killed because of the war started by Putin on the Ukrainian territory (and the annexation of Crimea was also an act of war). Yes, this is the end of Russian-Ukrainian friendship. But this is something very trivial and already mentioned in the link I gave you. My very best wishes (talk) 23:18, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

If Putin had waged the war by himself, he would have needed to start the war from bombing Kiev by Russian military aviation to win. It is clear. But this war was started on pro-Russian territories of Ukraine by paramilitary groups of pro-Russian separatists and Russian volunteers (Igor Girkin was just one of their leaders) in response to paramilitary activities by euromaidan activists. This is the major issue. Psychiatrick (talk) 00:56, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

He did not start this war from Kiev because it's more efficient to take the Ukrainian territory gradually. First, he took Crimea. Then he used special forces, mercenaries (like Girknin and "volunteers") and regular Army (starting from the Illovaisk operation) to take a part of Donbass. Then he might wish to create a corridor to Crimea. Who knows. My very best wishes (talk) 05:10, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Now the main enemy of Putin is Poroshenko’s government in Kiev, so it would be more efficient to destroy Kiev at first. Why did inhabitants of Crimea agree to conduct the 2014 Crimea referendum to become Russian citizens and to “be taken” by Putin? Who is guilty, Putin or inhabitants of Crimea? The Western media say that Putin is guilty because he is a bad guy. It means that inhabitants of Crimea are just stupid. However, if I had lived in Crimea and had had the choice between whether to be a Ukrainian citizen or Russian one there, I would have chosen to be a Russian one. Psychiatrick (talk) 12:03, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

That would be a legitimate referendum if conducted similar to Scottish independence referendum, 2014. But it was not. Not at all. Just imagine that Russian special forces and mercenaries occupied Scotland, took over their administrative buildings, appointed separatism supporters as heads of election commissions and on all other administrative positions, and FSB came to conduct arrests. A lot of people voted for Stalin and Brezhnev during Soviet times. It does not mean they were stupid, it does not mean they actually (freely) voted, and it does not mean they had a choice. My very best wishes (talk) 15:24, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

The hatred for the Russians in Ukraine, like in Chechnya, has to be treated anyway, and the war is a good doctor, Putin must think. Poroshenko laid down the hatred for the Russians in his Ukrainian peanut politics, his speeches and appearances in the media are anti-Russian. He sees Russia as the major enemy of Ukraine, which has too many Russians and pro-Russian people to let him humiliate them. Therefore, the bloodshed and war were inevitable. Let us get him off Ukraine to bring it to peace. Psychiatrick (talk) 03:46, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

And indeed, Putin's Russia is the major enemy of Ukraine. "Inevitable"? Well, just imagine a democratic, Europe-oriented Ukraine, right near Russian borders in a few years from now... That indeed would be a threat to corruption and dictatorship in Russia, given the significant Russian-speaking population in Ukraine. This is something Putin and his people could not tolerate. Hence they started the war from occupation of Crimea and continued in Donbass. The purpose of this war is not occupation of Ukraine (there was no bombing of Kiev), but making Ukraine a failing/bankrupt state and placing another thieve like Yanokovich in power. Killing many thousand in the process leads to hatred. No surprises. My very best wishes (talk) 06:20, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I live in Russia and do not see that corruption and dictatorship in Russia is stronger than in Europe and the USA. Do not belive propaganda. Putin was openly elected as Russia’s president and is supported by most Russian people. Psychiatrick (talk) 17:02, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I lived in both and can compare. More important, there is a lot of literature. Yes, looking at incompetent decisions by certain US politicians, I would gladly agree that American democracy is not really working (although this is not dictatorship). However, the political system in Russia has recently passed the boundary between dictatorship and totalitarianism. Here is difference: the totalitarian systems do not just usurp the power (as dictatorship), but attempt to control virtually all aspects of the social life, including economy, education, art, science, private life and morals of citizens. As one historian said, "the officially proclaimed ideology penetrates into the deepest reaches of societal structure, and the totalitarian government seeks to completely control the thoughts and actions of its citizens". Key word here "seeks" because this can never be achieved completely.My very best wishes (talk) 20:06, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Now Russia has no officially proclaimed, deeply penetrating ideology, no marxism, no communism, no atheism, no orthodox Christianity. Russian citizens have the right to adhere to any ideology except fascism and nazism. Putin tried to officially proclaim orthodox Christianity as an ideology for the whole Russian society but did not succeed in doing so. He does not attempt to control virtually all aspects of the social life, including economy, education, art, science, private life and morals of citizens. He cannot control even pro-Russian insurgents and Russian volunteers in eastern Ukraine. Please watch the video on YouTube. Psychiatrick (talk) 22:53, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I think we better stop. There are many opinions by experts [5], however what convinced me was this story. This story tells me that the current totalitarian system in Russia goes far beyond something I have seen in 1980s. This reaction by people belongs to the time of Stalinist purges. If you want to be there and support such regime, that's your choice. My very best wishes (talk) 01:31, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

We love Ukrainians so much that we will take them to havens with us rather than we will let them join the European Union. There is no choice to the both peoples. Thank you for participating in the discussion. Psychiatrick (talk) 03:22, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Interesting

Re: [6] . That would be nice to add to the article's main body somewhere (with a reference). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:12, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Done. --Psychiatrick (talk) 16:40, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

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Sorry for removing your comment on my talk page, but it does not seem appropriate to discuss named living persons on a user talk page telling that they are lucky to be alive and free, given the fact that a number of their colleagues have been recently badly beaten or killed. If you want to improve their BLP pages, that's fine. Please do. My very best wishes (talk) 17:09, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

The beatings and killings of dissidents are rather a usual thing in modern Russia, while their imprisonments and confinements in mental hospitals were rather a usual thing in the Soviet Union under Andropov. Of course, such things are immoral. But the fact is that Putin does not imprison dissidents and does not confine them in mental hospitals on a large scale, whereas Andropov did so. There is some noticeable paradigmatic shift in dealing with dissidents. Psychiatrick (talk) 17:53, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Are you telling that killing Nemtsov was lesser evil than sending Podrabinek to a mental "hospital"? No, that does not work for me. Are you telling that invasion of Ukraine is lesser evil than the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan? My very best wishes (talk) 23:30, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

What matters is the quantity of evils. I do not know what would be a lesser evil between two ones. Both are worse. I know Podrabinek and his friends were imprisoned in the Soviet Union but now they are not. There is a difference between the past and the present and the difference is noticeable to me. Psychiatrick (talk) 00:03, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

ru:Жить стало лучше, жить стало веселее? Good luck! My very best wishes (talk) 02:45, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Expansionism is just a means for Putin to be on the top of the podium. When Putin feels he loses popularity in Russia, he uses his favorite scheme for gaining more popularity through presenting to the Russians such gifts as Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Crimea and so on. In addition, most Russian dream of Alaska as a part of Russia. Psychiatrick (talk) 10:21, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

What you are telling is a russophobic cliche. Actually, I have never met anyone who would wanted Alaska as a part of Russia. Do you mean this is your dream? My very best wishes (talk) 18:12, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

I am just telling what I think of. According to some sociological surveys, 86 % of Russians support Putin in his current expansionist policy. In Russia, the Russians often discuss the possibility of restoring the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire (with Alaska) and ignore the fact that those countries collapsed because of their huge territory. Psychiatrick (talk) 19:02, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am not sure why did you start this discussion and what is your point. If anything, such level of support is typical for totalitarian dictatorships. Stalin, Hitler and Kim Il-sung were even more popular in their countries, thanks to their propaganda machines. My very best wishes (talk) 20:41, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

The state has monopoly of the media and TV and is able to turn them into a propaganda machine through the supression of all dissenting voices. It is not as surprising as it seems to be. Psychiatrick (talk) 21:10, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Are you talking about Reichs Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda and Glavlit? My very best wishes (talk) 01:15, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

The same is true everywhere. In any country, no one can broadcast speeches, productions and works of art critical of its government without the threat of being ostracized. Psychiatrick (talk) 01:49, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Oh man, nothing can be further from the truth. As Sasha Chorny said,

Короли, герои, папы,
Божий сын и бог отец,
Юбиляры и сатрапы,
Каждый олух и мудрец,
И любой сановник крупный,
И любой правленья строй —
Все для критики доступны,
Кроме критики самой!

However, I must go. Thank you! That was fun. My very best wishes (talk) 02:00, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Все для критики доступны... American psychiatrists "discovered" oppositional defiant disorder included in DSM-5 to label critics as mentaly ill and confine them in US mentall hospitals. American psychiatrists learned all lessons of political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union very well and started using Soviet psychiatric inventions.Psychiatrick (talk) 11:12, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am not familiar with this. So, who exactly was sent to a mental hospital in US for political reasons? My very best wishes (talk) 13:57, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

A lot of people listed in the book The Protest Psychosis. Psychiatrick (talk) 15:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

OK. But the existence of this book and pages like that, as well as the entire Soviet dissident movement show that Sacha Chornyi was right (actually, the quotation above was his translation of poetry by Ludwig Fulda). But I still do not understand what was your point and what we are talking about. My very best wishes (talk) 16:18, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Layng down and changing of laws for imprisonment as well as layng down and changing of mental health criteria for psychiatric confinment is a prerogative of the ruling group in any country. It is only the ruling group that lays down and changes such laws and mental health criteria while pursuing its own interests. Psychiatrick (talk) 16:56, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Who cares? How that (or your previous comment) relates to my editing in WP? My very best wishes (talk) 17:25, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

No relation. Just for fun. Please read that. Psychiatrick (talk) 17:31, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

OK. I can agree with your last comment about ruling elites, but it makes a lot of difference which exactly ruling class makes decisions in a country. It the Soviet Union that was Nomenklatura and Chekists, and they are still Chekists in the modern-day Russia. Who do you think are ruling class in the US? "Fat cats"? My very best wishes (talk) 17:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

The ruling class in the US is Putin's supporters, ie those who refused to supply arms to Ukraine and thereby supported Putin's expansionism and the mass killings of the Ukrainians. Psychiatrick (talk) 18:31, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

As far as I remember, US legislature supported the supply of arms to Ukraine. The only person who blocked it was Barak Obama. So, yes, I tend to agree that he supports Putin. But he is not a ruling class, but merely an elected servicemen. My very best wishes (talk) 18:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

The only elected serviceman blocks implementing the decision of majority and destroys democracy. By the way, what amuses me in Soviet and modern Russia is constant attempts to use psychiatry anywhere and make referrals of political opponents to psychiatrists who always say their key concern is not politics but medical science, mental health and psychiatric treatment of biological and genetic defects in brains to free persons from wrong beliefs. Psychiatrick (talk) 21:09, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

With all due respect, the notice on your user page with quotation from Dugin does look crazy. I would strongly advise removing it per WP:SOAP. My very best wishes (talk) 00:46, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I saw your last edits. Thank you! Actually, you may wish to check ru:Категория:Советские_диссиденты. But I do not have time to participate here at the moment. Maybe later. My very best wishes (talk) 12:59, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I understood what was the fatal mistake Putin made as to Ukraine. The EU is too large and does not want to have Ukraine among EU members but it is Ukraine itself that wants to be among them to be defended from Russia’s aggression and annexations of Ukrainian territories. In addition, Putin decided to send his volunteers to Syria to fight on the side of Bashar al-Assad against ISIS. The trouble is that Putin’s volunteers understand and speak neither Arabic nor Kurdish and therefore will be shot at from all sides including from behind by Bashar al-Assad’s military forces themselves. Something of this sort took place during Soviet–Afghan War. Psychiatrick (talk) 22:46, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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I can see that you are interested in politics. Then you should really read this. That explains all recent political events. My very best wishes (talk) 14:03, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I have read it. --Psychiatrick (talk) 15:36, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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Your source text form page 118: "Despite the absence in Miss lofe of obvious symptoms of mental illness and despite the absence of any indication that Miss lofe's behaviour was physically dangerous, the psychiatric commission recommended that she be sent to a special psychiatric hospital: that is, an institution legally designated for persons who represent "a special danger for society".5 A similar phenomenon can be observed in the case of Ivan Yakhimovich. In June 1969, a psychiatric commission in Riga examined Mr Yakhimovich, a communist who had earned high official praise as a collective farm chairman until in 1968 "he began spreading slanderous and defamatory statements blaming the Soviet government and social system". The psychiatrists could discover nothing abnormal in Mr Yakhimovich's record of behaviour apart from his political activity The commission's official diagnosis included the following: Patient is completely oriented ... The patient has an excellent knowledge of literature, of classics of Marxism and Leninism, and also has an excellent knowledge of works of many philosophers and political figures ... During the interview with the psychiatrists, patient was polite, gentle, and showed no evidence of delusions and hallucinations, and displayed adequate memory.52 The commission's conclusion and recommendations were something of a non sequitur: On the basis of the above findings, the committee reaches the conclusion that Yakhimovich shows development of a paranoid system in a psychopathic personality ... The patient is in need of compulsory treatment in the hospital of special regime.53 Frequently, when local psychiatric commissions have not found political defendants to be mentally ill, second diagnoses have been sought. Very often it is the Serbsky Institute which has been brought in to provide this second diagnosis, for example in the cases of Pyotr Grigorenko, Anatoly Chinnov, Nataliya Gorbanyevskaya and Leonid Plyushch. In these cases and in others, the Serbsky Institute's psychiatrists have overturned the findings of local psychiatrists that the defendants were not mentally ill. In at least several such cases, the Serbsky Institute has employed psychiatric criteria so subtle that not only laymen including the defendants themselves but even other psychiatrists have been unable to use them in evaluating the behaviour of these defendants. The psychiatric diagnoses of General Pyotr Grigorenko, a prominent dissident Marxist-Leninist, exemplify this phenomenon. In 1969, after a Tashkent psychiatric commission had examined General Grigorenko and declared him to be mentally healthy, the Serbsky Institute of Forensic Psychiatry in Moscow was asked for a second opinion. This second diagnosis found in General Grigorenko's political activity clear signs of "pathological (paranoid) development of the personality In recommending that General Grigorenko be confined to a "special" (i.e. maximum security) psychiatric hospital, the Serbsky Institute's experts noted the". I dont see there nothing that can suggest that Grigorenko was designated as prisoner of conscience by Amnesty international. Kamolan (talk) 17:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

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I'm thinking that "forcibly" is the right word here. "Forcedly" doesn't really work. I think "forcibly" means принудительно, вне зависимости от собственного желания, whereas "forcedly" means крайне неохотно, скрепя сердце. What do you think? -- Y not? 20:18, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, talk page lurker here. I would have to agree that "forcedly" doesn't feel right. If you want, I can amend the articles over the next few days to use "forcibly". — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 09:34, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Can you, as before, "segregate" these footnotes to the Chronicle section? Thanks!

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—Да что вы говорите. Жилось им там хорошо пока не началась "игра" в несависимости и сепаратизме. После того что пережили в последние два года - думаю успокоются со всем и забудут об этой идеи. По крайней мере так было бы если бы за ними было решение. Но они там сейчас лишь пешки в шахматной игре... В остальном согласен с вами. --XXN, 16:41, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

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[9]. Oh no, I am sure that no one, including him wants to be in Russia right now. My very best wishes (talk) 21:55, 13 June 2016 (UTC) An artificial crisis because of war and economic illiteracy of the Russian government was the best time to take power in 1917 and still is the best time to take power in 2016 or 2017. Anyone including Kasparov knows it. Nicolas II was too stupid and Putin is like him. --Psychiatrick (talk) 22:26, 13 June 2016 (UTC) Why would anyone wanted to take power? Do you want to take power? I do not. Can't talk for others. BTW, Nicolas was not stupid. He was known as "the bloody". No one wants to be "the bloody". My very best wishes (talk) 23:23, 13 June 2016 (UTC) Please, be more careful in your definitions. I wrote that anyone including Kasparov knows that an artificial crisis is the best time to take power. That is all. Kasparov fought for power for many years but fled Russia in the best time to take power. Nicolas II was too stupid because he was involved in World War I and lost his army, millions of Russians, and his life. That is all. --Psychiatrick (talk) 00:08, 14 June 2016 (UTC) I thought we are kidding. Guys like him never come to power in Russia, and even guys like him. This is not Wild West. Even if they come to power like him, they transfer it so someone else. Too bad. That man did wanted to be in charge. That did not happen. As one writer said, "there is only one kind of fish in that aquarium - Piranha". He knows. My very best wishes (talk) 00:44, 14 June 2016 (UTC) Soviet scientists knew that the Soviet government always played its games without observing international law but Soviet scientists except for Soviet dissidents were terrified, silent and ready to send their children to any war including Soviet–Afghan one and serve the Soviet government for minimum salary. Nicholas II and his stupidity paved the way to this greater evil. --Psychiatrick (talk) 19:32, 15 June 2016 (UTC) What's your point? The scientists... Well, that depends on the person. Some were ready to serve, and this is shame. Others were kept like prisoners and escaped the country immediately in 1990s because they were not ready to send their children to any war, among other things. I knew one women scientist whose son, a student-physicist was sent to Afganistan against his will. He returned back a drug addict and a broken man, with no interest to anything. She died from a heart attack. Such was the Soviet Union, but modern Russia is not any better. I think the essence of the both systems was caught perfectly in movies by famous Aleksei Balabanov: Cargo 200 (SU) and The Stoker (modern Russia; this is a story about man who disposes in the stove bodies of people killed by Russian mafia until they bring him a body of his own daughter; but probably the most terrifying is the part of how and why they killed his daughter; this is really about people who have been transformed into animals like "stokers" in the Auschwitz). But these movies can be fully understood only by someone from the same culture and with a good soul. My very best wishes (talk) 02:25, 16 June 2016 (UTC) But that state of minds was described in the movie by Balabanov many years ago. Right now this is different. What had happen? (a) Brainwashing, falsehoods and aggression on a scale never seen in the post-Stalinist Russia (actions by "fans" in France simply show this state of mind), (b) total criminalization of society with top prosecutors and "law enforcement" working together with the most notorious gangs who literally own the cities and kill and rape with impunity - this is something never seen before in Russian history (yes the criminals remain exactly the same as described by Shalamov, but now they are in power) (c) military interventions in Georgia, Ukraine and Syria, (d) one could continue. And remember, this is not the government, but society. This can not be easily fixed even if the government and propaganda changes its direction. I hope that answer your question, but we better stop. My very best wishes (talk) 14:03, 16 June 2016 (UTC) I agree.--Psychiatrick (talk) 14:40, 16 June 2016 (UTC) Earlier we faced the choice between chekists and bandits until Putin recruited bandits into chekists and gave them the license to kill anyone (like Alexander Litvinenko, Boris Nemtsov and Boris Berezovsky) they want to. The FSS is no longer the KGB but an ordinary gang of killers who are serving Putin. --Psychiatrick (talk) 13:45, 16 June 2016 (UTC) Comparing Kasparov to Andrey Sakharov is rididulous. 77.93.29.14 (talk) 16:49, 16 June 2016 (UTC) It is also very worrying to see that there are people out here who would prefer ISIS to Russia in the Syrian conflict. 77.93.29.14 (talk) 16:50, 16 June 2016 (UTC) Sorry, it is difficult to understand what you are telling [10]. Speaking philosophically, no, no one is going to tell "thank you" to someone who shoots himself in the leg or willingly endangers himself and possibly others by staying on the way of an avalanche, for example. Quite the opposite. If someone helps you to leave a dangerous place, then yes, "thank you" is appropriate. However, I would like ask you not to discuss political questions on my talk page any more. Thank you. My very best wishes (talk) 00:00, 19 June 2016 (UTC) In Winter Is Coming: Why Vladimir Putin and the Enemies of the Free World Must Be Stopped Kasparov proposes us to stop Putin. Does he know how? He himself participated in the 2011–13 Russian protests but left the Academician Sakharov Avenue too soon (they should have stood there for some months to win) and fled Russia after being persecuted and imprisoned by the FSS. Now he needs to ask western leaders for tanks and soldiers and move them to the Kremlin from the West to win. But Kasparov only writes books about what must be done. Place him in a tank, give him several defensive military divisions and send them to the Kremlin. Psychiatrick (talk) 09:58, 19 June 2016 (UTC) You did not explained what you are talking about. No, I did not read this book, sorry. I can only tell that he was absolutely right by leaving Russia, not riding the "tank" and writing a book to express his views and ideas whatever they are. This is freedom of speech. And no, this is Putin, not Kasparov who sends military divisions, bombs, gangsters, undercover "fans", green men and poisoners to other countries. My very best wishes (talk) 12:35, 19 June 2016 (UTC) I explained that I was talking about stoping Putin in his military adventures. I was also talking that Putin could be stopped by military forces alone and these military forces could be provided by the West alone to Kasparov, for example, because he is in opposition to Putin. Kasparov's position can be supported but is not yet supported by the West. That is the trouble. Psychiatrick (talk) 12:53, 19 June 2016 (UTC) Kasparov as Napoleon? This is probably yet another conspiracy theory invented by comrade Beria to gain trust of comrade Stalin.My very best wishes (talk) 13:24, 19 June 2016 (UTC) I suppose no one will shoot Kasparov to death if or when he will drive his tanks from the West through Eastern Ukraine to the Kremlin because he is more honest and respected that Putin in Russia. Rather, the Russians will applaud to Kasparov near the Kremlin. --Psychiatrick (talk) 13:31, 19 June 2016 (UTC) Happy Father's Day! I wish you get well. No one will shoot Mickey Mouse. And just for the record, I disagree with everything you said above, sorry. My very best wishes (talk) 14:52, 19 June 2016 (UTC) Thanks. Removing Bashar al-Assad from ruling Syria required the only one bomb to destroy the ruler himself and his staff and to win. But the West procrastinated too long and led to the loss of about 100.000 opposition's fighters. Now the West is also procrastinating as to Putin and leading to mass losses in Russia and neighboring countries bombed by Russia. Hard position of Ronald Reagan saved milions of lives and was respected by middle-class Russians in the Soviet Union during the Cold War. --Psychiatrick (talk) 16:25, 19 June 2016 (UTC) I suspect that some your comments above were not consistent with our BLP policy. I personally do not mind, but it's better to be extra careful. My very best wishes (talk) 00:01, 20 June 2016 (UTC) I would like to note that the US has the highest standard of uniformity and conformity, there are no opposition political parties and societies in the US. The fact points out that Americans allow the US government to treat with them how it wants to, and they can eventually fall victims to the US government and its lies especially under Donald Trump. Here is an appropriate quotation of Noam Chomsky's work: "In the US, there is basically one party - the business party. It has two factions, called Democrats and Republicans, which are somewhat different but carry out variations on the same policies." --Psychiatrick (talk) 18:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC) Whatever the political troubles in US are, they have noting to do with Crimea or Donbass. Some people in Russia tell: "We never lived as bad as under Barak Obama". Is that what you think? Speaking more seriously, yes, sure, Americans are "victims" (and perpetrators) of their political system, just like Russians, but the systems/societies are very different. Would you prefer to be in South or North Korea? But living in US is actually a lot easier for someone like you or me than living even in South Korea. My very best wishes (talk) 01:55, 23 June 2016 (UTC) Would you prefer to be in South or North Korea? – In South one. The myths about greatness and omnipotence of the State spread by politicians among their population are very expensive and fade away only because of mass losses and casualties in wars. Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan killed the myths in the Soviet Union during the Soviet–Afghan war. It is better to kill the myths at the right moment until they kill many people. Unfortunately, the US is prone to the same myths and has no one to kill them. --Psychiatrick (talk) 11:56, 23 June 2016 (UTC) The greatness of the State (read dictatorship) is specifically Russian Imperial idea. Well, actually it came from the Mongol Empire to Russia. Remember what Maximilian Voloshin said (""Сотни лет тупых и зверских пыток, И еще не весь развернут свиток, И не замкнут список палачей...")? No one killed that idea, as we can see. The US and Europe follow an opposite ideology known as libertarianism. My very best wishes (talk) 22:37, 23 June 2016 (UTC) Well, vote Hillary Clinton for U.S. president if she is going to take a hard position against Putin's expansionism and persecution of oppositionists in Russia.--Psychiatrick (talk) 20:58, 24 June 2016 (UTC) Do not wary, Clintons are very friendly to Russia [11]. In fact, she is much better for Russia than Trump. But I am still going to vote for her. My very best wishes (talk) 00:41, 25 June 2016 (UTC) Please watch Military help for Transnistria, 13 min on YouTube. Due to this military help, unrecognized Transnistria exists for 24 years from the date of the fall of the Soviet Union and, perhaps, will exist for next 24 years. At present no one can stop the shipment of arms from Russia to Transnistria. The same fate might await Donbass and Crimea. --Psychiatrick (talk) 14:25, 26 June 2016 (UTC) Oh, yes. And of course Abkhasia, South Ossetia, Syria, and ... (who is next?) - all of them will be in ruins and misery, just like North Korea, Cuba, Ethiopia, Afghanistan and a lot of other countries before. Разве вы не видите что пропаганда Распинает вас, как мальчиков на голубых экранах, И поэтому свирепствует Луганда В разоренных руссофилами странах? Or that: Я не стану Страною гордиться, Что взошла на насилье и лжи, Где у власти остались убийцы И Гулаг нескончаемо жив. Я не стану Победой гордиться Что создала Империю Зла: Подневольного мира граница За Берлинской стеной пролегла. My very best wishes (talk) 21:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC) I protested in the street against starting Second Chechen War a year before its onset during preparations for the war, was sent to a Russian psychiatric hospital, fled Russia for the West and was eventually kicked out of the West to Russia at the request of American "friends." Nowadays I am short of physical health to protest against every war and run around the world not to fall a victim to my protest. I am sure that neither Mikhail Khodorkovsky nor Yevgeny Chichvarkin in Russia ever protested a war unleashed by this country but they are welcome and kindly accepted in the West. That points out the hypocrisy of the West. --Psychiatrick (talk) 00:43, 29 June 2016 (UTC) Oh man, was you deported? This is very strange. Actually, I too have rather negative opinion about Khodorkovsky. Long time ago, I was involved in election campaign in Russia, as a volunteer. That was real eye-opener, both about human nature and about Russian politics. Interesting experience anyway, no regrets about it. My very best wishes (talk) 01:04, 29 June 2016 (UTC) I was not deported but told to leave not to be forcibly deported and forbidden from entry into any Western country for a long time.--Psychiatrick (talk) 01:39, 29 June 2016 (UTC) Any Western country? Non grata? How come? Did you declare war to Britain like him? My very best wishes (talk) 01:52, 29 June 2016 (UTC) No. I rather ask Britain to take measures against Russian wars. Psychiatrick (talk) 02:03, 29 June 2016 (UTC) Thank you! I did not edit these subjects for a long time and very happy to see they have been developed much further by good contributors! Back to discussion, this is not as much about wars versus peace as about propagation of extremely bad political system. For example, what is the best course of action by Ukraine with respect to DNR- and LNR- occupied territories? Obviously, to get rid this tumor and "donate" it where it now actually belongs, i.e. to Russia. And I am afraid this tumor is incurable and can take over the entire Ukraine, unless surgically removed.My very best wishes (talk) 03:49, 29 June 2016 (UTC) Propagation of extremely bad political system like in the Soviet Union and present-day Russia is possible only through wars, military expansion, political repression and other types of violence, not economic cooperation, scientific collaboration or cultural exchange. That is why cultural exchange, scientific collaboration and economic cooperation between the Soviet Union and the West were hindered, minimal and unnecessary. --Psychiatrick (talk) 04:28, 29 June 2016 (UTC) You mentioned something you brought to Troitse-Lykovo for review. Is it available/published somewhere? If not, can you give me a small sample here - as a "cultural exchange"? My very best wishes (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2016 (UTC) My poem is available here. So to say, Russian poetry of XXI century. Psychiatrick (talk) 19:17, 29 June 2016 (UTC) Spasibo! This is probably inspired by "Ты душа моя косолапая, что болишь у меня, кровью капая"... If you wish, I can tell a little more, but it will not be very favorable. My very best wishes (talk) 03:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC) Today I first heard of this song and listened to it. I wish you could tell a little more about me in the US to free me from a Russian prison or psychiatric hospital if or when I am incarcerated there. I have only my voice, no money. My only book of poetry was unofficially banned and purged from libraries in Russia. My prose is not published. Psychiatrick (talk) 13:39, 30 June 2016 (UTC) Человек будет долго мучиться, Говорить и писать разучится, Compare to: "bex lubvi prozit' ne poluchitsja, a s lubov'u zit' - tol'ko muchit'sja" (good poetry, not sure if it really "folk"; given popularity of the song, I would assume it was in your subconscience). There are sites like this and even Facebook where you might be able to place your poetry and prose if you wish. I do not think you can earn any money by publishing it. I can't tell anything about you or give you any real life advice because I do not know anything about your circumstances. There is no Iron Curtain (yet). If you do not want to be a victim, do not be in this country. My very best wishes (talk) 16:22, 30 June 2016 (UTC) Labor emigration → no civil resistance → no protest activity → no political alternative → no suitable policy → no democratic change → no normal life for future generations in modernized Russia. --Psychiatrick (talk) 17:26, 30 June 2016 (UTC) I guess you need likbez [12]. P.S. Given that our discussion brought some administrative attention, I think we should stop it and never have it again. BTW, I think your little poem is weak - after reading it I can not be even sure that you actually was there, although you know the subject. My very best wishes (talk) 13:20, 1 July 2016 (UTC) Viktor Suvorov is an intelligent person but is still regarded as a traitor, defector and state criminal worthy to be shot to death because of his allegedly deceitful and poorly written books based on falsification of historical facts in Russia. I read and liked them. There is a plant in front of my house, one that produced tank engines during the Cold War. My father worked there and often told me that the tank engines were needed to win Europe and America during the Third World War when it would happen. For decades, we saw only tanks, endless rows of tanks, no meat, no bread, no butter. In the Soviet Union, only a few persons could admit and publicly say that the Soviet leaders were liars like Putin and made us produce the tank engines to constantly frighten us with the Third World War and present themselves as our defenders and rescuers. Psychiatrick (talk) 13:41, 1 July 2016 (UTC) Which means we lived in very different Soviet Unions. Practically all people from my surrounding knew that Brezhnev and other Communist bosses were liars - they were constant subjects of popular jokes (no, a lot of people were saying bad things about Soviet leaders). And no one believed in WW III. The lessons on civil defense were included in curriculum for University students and also were a matter of constant jokes and humiliation: Наша сила в нашем строе, наш заряд врага накроет, Пусть трепещет Пентагон, Вашингтон, Сайгон и Бонн. Or Медленно ракеты улетают вдаль, Встречи с ними ты уже не жди. И хотя Америку немного жаль, Лучшее, конечно, впереди. Скатертью, скатертью хлор-циан стелется И забивается под противогаз. Каждому, каждому в лучшее верится, А с неба сыплется ядерный фугас. Может, мы обидели кого-то зря, Сбросили пятнадцать мегатонн. То что после этого останется Мы погрузим в голубой вагон. (not sure who was the author) But right now a lot of people take it seriously, which means that Russia returned back into the Stalinist era. My very best wishes (talk) 19:48, 1 July 2016 (UTC) wow! My very best wishes (talk) 20:11, 1 July 2016 (UTC) You are right that all people from our surrounding knew that Brezhnev and other Communist bosses were liars but their lies had to be revealed before the bosses like Andrei Sakharov did, not in our kitchens before our wives and saucepans. You are not right that no one believed in WW III because we produced a huge amount of weaponry reportedly for WW III. Psychiatrick (talk) 20:15, 1 July 2016 (UTC) No, the general perception (and the official argument by the Soviet state propagated in a thousand ways) was that nuclear weapons were actually needed to prevent the global war from happening because no one would dare to use nuclear weapons. The argument was actually bogus (there were very hot wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and other places), but people were buying this argument. Now this is very different. For example, Suvorov (link above) argued that after the violation of Budapest Memorandum by Russia and inaction by other countries, Ukraine simply has no other choice but to re-create its nuclear weapons or at least make "dirty bombs" and threaten Moscow. Wonderful interview. My very best wishes (talk) 19:19, 2 July 2016 (UTC) Putin does not hesitate to put pressure on his opponents and dissidents, he is trying to deter them by incarcerating them in prisons and psychiatric hospitals (learn more in The New Chronicle of Current Events). In response for Putin's political repression, Western leaders should not hesitate to put pressure on Putin's cronies who are living in the West and deter them by incarcerating them in prisons and psychiatric hospitals. This is the best way to put an end to any war including one in Ukraine. Psychiatrick (talk) 09:01, 3 July 2016 (UTC) So, after being unjustly incarcerated yourself (as you tell), you suggest to unjustly incarcerate others - simply for their political views? Oh man, that shows who you really are and where you belong. My very best wishes (talk) 12:59, 3 July 2016 (UTC) Chekist political views of Putin's cronies are nothing but killing and political repression of opponents and these political views are implemented not only in Russia, but also in the West where such killings as Alexander Litvinenko's and Boris Berezovsky's ones became widespread and will become more and more widespread until these political views are punished through incarcerations. Psychiatrick (talk) 13:39, 3 July 2016 (UTC) But "incarcerating the incarcerators" and especially the eradication of political views (whatever they are) through incarcerations is precisely Chekist mindset/political views. That is exactly what Stalin did in 1930s. Besides, you are soapboxing like "pikeinnye zhilety" from The Twelve Chairs. Good bye! My very best wishes (talk) 16:00, 3 July 2016 (UTC) Do not worry, chekists who commited political killings are not punished in Russia but the West is empowered to punish them. Psychiatrick (talk) 17:35, 3 July 2016 (UTC) The only effective and civilized way of solving this problem is lustration. But it can be done only from within. According to one historian, the current political system in Russia has passed "the point of no return" when the system can be only "fixed" by big war as had happened with Nazi Germany and Japan, or continue to exist in the state of despair like North Korea. The question he noticed: will Russia continue attacking other countries as she did with Ukraine? Could Hitler not to attack Poland? In theory, yes, he could. But in practice he probably could not (regardless to the MR pact) because such was the nature of his regime. My very best wishes (talk) 13:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC) The Soviet system was "fixed" by black swans — sudden turnaround of events that included the Soviet–Afghan war, economic crisis, commodity deficiency, the deaths of Yuri Andropov and Konstantin Chernenko, revolutions of 1989, the fall of the Soviet Union. Psychiatrick (talk) 14:19, 4 July 2016 (UTC) Yes, further disintegration of Russia and "soft annexation" of Siberia by China is also a possibility discussed by Suvorov and many others. I thought about it too: Может быть лишь Исламская революция Раздробит Россию на Халифаты, Сибирь и Москореп, И тогда-то потомки хитрого Конфуция Подадут вам на водку и хлеб? My very best wishes (talk) 14:41, 4 July 2016 (UTC) The first trouble is that most Russians wrongly associate economic crisis and commodity deficiency in the last years of the Soviet Union before its fall with the activities of Mikhail Kasyanov, Grigory Yavlinsky and Yegor Gaidar, not Yuri Andropov, Konstantin Chernenko and Leonid Brezhnev and their unleashing of Soviet–Afghan war. The second trouble is that most Russians have no time and interest to seek information and a key reason for the economic crisis and commodity deficiency in the late 1980s. The third trouble is that most Russians are deceived by TV that wrongly portrays Putin as their benefactor who found a way out of the economic crisis and commodity deficiency in the late 1980s.Psychiatrick (talk) 15:11, 4 July 2016 (UTC) Key problem is Chekism/Counterintelligence state/"The New Nobility". The percentage of "siloviks" in overall population increased dramatically compare to the Soviet Union, and most of the population share their views and values. That allows creation of the totalitarian system which is not an ordinary dictatorship. Hence the "point of no return" for society (see above). My very best wishes (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2016 (UTC) The percentage of "siloviks" in present-day Russia makes no difference between it and the Soviet Union where all the same the fall of totalitarianism happened though most Soviets shared communist views and values that were forcibly propagated by the CPSU and the KGB. Psychiatrick (talk) 17:37, 4 July 2016 (UTC) Which means you are not familiar with the subject. The percentage was much greater already in 1994 (see book "The State Within a State: The KGB and Its Hold on Russia – Past, Present, and Future" by Yevgenia Albats). And it is a lot greater right now. But most important, these guys took all positions of power in the State apparatus and corporations (in the former SU that was the role of Communist Party) and propagated their views and moral values, along with disinformation, among the bulk of civil population. My very best wishes (talk) 17:51, 4 July 2016 (UTC) When they are too many, they eat each other. Although some of my friends would like these guys to be destroyed through bombing their key building in Moscow by NATO forces. Psychiatrick (talk) 18:31, 4 July 2016 (UTC) Who would want such a thing? Your friends are bloody Russophobic monsters. They have Chekist mindset I am talking about. I personally believe in this. So should they. My very best wishes (talk) 19:22, 4 July 2016 (UTC) Sermon on the Mount is not for those who are deaf to sufferings of their and other nations like Ukrainians. There are military resistance and International Criminal Court for the deaf. Psychiatrick (talk) 19:47, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you for leaving the comment. However, I think that was their choice, and I greatly respect it. My very best wishes (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. You are right that was their choice but they are too few to win in the near future and, therefore, so that they could retain physical health and moral courage they are in need of international help including your and my one. Psychiatrick (talk) 23:54, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

If you really care, make pages about that guy and about ru:Дадин, Ильдар Ильдусович. They pass our notability guidelines. P.S. That kind of things is happening in Russia during last 500 years. My very best wishes (talk) 00:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

"During 2000 years there is a war, a war without special reasons." on YouTube Psychiatrick (talk) 02:02, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

I do not think anyone can help them. They are going to be in prison, just like Boris Stomakhin. But at least they fought. Others are going to be only victims. Being a victim does not make anything or anyone better. Read Varlam Shalamov. This is writer #1 for anyone who wants to understand what this country is really about, and if it has the future. My very best wishes (talk) 14:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

I read Shalamov. It does not matter what this country is really about, and if it has the future when you would not like to take or persuade someone abroad to take the Russian guys mentioned above. There are many Russians in the US, please talk to them. Psychiatrick (talk) 23:44, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

I would be happy to help anyone (if anyone I know would asked me to help), but people are not cats "to take". My very best wishes (talk) 01:05, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

In Russia, people are regarded as if they were cats "to take" and are taken like cats by anyone who would like to, including chekists, policemen, psychiatrists, employers, racketeers and so on. So, do not fear to invite or take the people from Russia. Psychiatrick (talk) 02:43, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh yes, that is what I occasionally do. But they return back, and it's best for some of them to be in Russia. Of course some of them are brainwashed, but so are people in US. BTW, I think around 80% of Russians living in US support Putin. I am not one of them, of course.My very best wishes (talk) 03:32, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

In addition, all Russian richest tycoons including Boris Berezovsky, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Alexei Pichugin proved to absolutely blind like kittens, they made big money all the way and all the time, forgot about the necessity to establish the rule of law and international law in Russia, actually sold their freedom for the possibility to make big money and eventually lost both their freedom and the possibility to make money. Psychiatrick (talk) 04:07, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

I am not going to discuss this per WP:BLP, but no, Pichugin will be remembered for this. Generally speaking, political views can be different, but it is important what people feel. When I read something like that, honestly, I simply laugh "do kolik v zivote" because this is such an absurd becoming grotesque. Some absurdists do it on purpose, but this is authentic. I wish the author to be well soon. However, it seems that the feelings of the author is actually hatred (something she wrongly blames others of), and when people hate they do unimaginable. That's the difference. My very best wishes (talk) 13:30, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Alexei Navalny in the cradle of cosmonautics, my home city, is brave enough to speak loudly against the troubles created by Putin's cronies and mentioned by me. Please watch A meeting with Alexei Navalny in Kaluga, 11 June 2015, 70 min, in Russian on YouTube. Psychiatrick (talk) 15:08, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I think he is definitely the bravest Russian politician today. Speaking about that again, I was probably laughing because this is very weak poetry. Compare to something really strong by Eduard Bagritsky who was politically on the same "side":

Возникай содружество
Ворона с бойцом -
Укрепляйся, мужество,
Сталью и свинцом,

Чтоб земля суровая
Кровью истекла,
Чтобы юность новая
Из костей взошла.

My very best wishes (talk) 04:34, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

This endless sorrowful story reflected in Russian literature is called Russian people's struggle for the truth and justice against the Kremlin crooks, thieves, tyrants and usurpers of power in Russia and has been lasting for the last hundred years since 1917. Unfortunately, Russian literature itself to some degree is a type of response to the Kremlin lies, injustice and political repression. Psychiatrick (talk) 06:08, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I looked through your memoirs, very quickly. Yes, there are some interesting details. Well, in the high school I read some popular literature about psychology and even thought about studying it at University. But one women, a psychologist-researcher said after talking with me (a kind of test!) that I would be much better off by studying physics, math, even biology. I am very happy that followed her advice. P.S. I have a breakthrough at work and probably will not participate here for a while. P.P.S. My advice about your poetry. Masha was right. You are wasting your time. Do not do it, especially here. My very best wishes (talk) 22:07, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

In Russia, such advices were repeatedly given by Glavlit and the KGB and because of them are not working. All of us should resist to the regime either in prison or at liberty by writing either prose or poetry. At any rate, silence and consent are betrayal of oneself and others. Psychiatrick (talk) 00:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes, sure, if you could do something like this. But you can't. Your work on wiki serves the purpose a lot more than all your poetry. For the same reason, I would rather do my scientific work. The idea that everyone must resist is wrong. Everyone must do whatever serves his higher purpose, or whatever helps to develop his soul and souls of others. You can write your poems if you like, but I think they hardly pass the "frog test" ("Миру нужно песенное слово Петь по-свойски, даже как лягушка"), not mentioning some other requirements. My very best wishes (talk) 02:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

"Frog test" is unapplied and inapplicable to the works of those who was banned and incarcerated. For instance, there is a huge pile of unpublished anti-Soviet manuscripts glued in medical histories and accessible to Russian psychiatrists alone. No authors—they died, no publishers—they were not yet born, so no "frog test". Psychiatrick (talk) 15:50, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

I see. You simply do not understand what you are doing and what you are talking about, just like some heroes of parodies by ru:Иванов, Александр Александрович (поэт) and Vadim Shefner. Of course you are very welcome not to follow anyone's advice. My very best wishes (talk) 17:59, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

What I am doing is simply expressing my dissenting views and what I am talking about is simply expressing anyone's dissenting views in works critical of the regime and banned by it for decades like Yuri Orlov's letter to Leonid Brezhnev dated 24 February 1974. Psychiatrick (talk) 18:54, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

So, where is your letter to the head of the state? I saw on the poetry site (exactly where you make your postings) one women who wrote a poem describing him literally as an "enemy of the humankind". All her postings were censored/deleted by "moderators" next day. But all your content is pretty much safe. My very best wishes (talk) 19:11, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

We all know that the head of the state never replied to such critical letters and works so the letters and works circulated only among people until their authors were incarcerated or exiled. Psychiatrick (talk) 19:45, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

True. But Orlov wrote his letter as if he thought that Brezhnev will actually read it. Same with letter by Marina Tsvetaeva to Beria, and she thought that he will read it. She did not understand at all what was going on (Stalin was killing all Soviet assassins where her husband belonged because they were potentially more dangerous for him than anyone else, and he was right because his poisoner was ultimately very same Beria to whom Tsvetaeva wrote this letter). Yes, they normally read only something very loud, like the message from Pussy Riot. My very best wishes (talk) 12:57, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

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