Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bespoke BBQ Company

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The result was keep. SarahStierch (talk) 22:27, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to God-Grilla. SarahStierch (talk) 22:26, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bespoke BBQ Company

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Company built a giant barbecue. Delete. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:48, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Northamerica1000^(talk) 14:37, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 15:10, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Rename to God-Grilla: All of the sources are more about the BBQ than the company (and notability is not inherited). The article is more about the BBQ than the company. -- BenTels (talk) 17:16, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Renaming is congruent with WP:PRESERVE. Methinks deletion of the entire article per its current title is a little hasty. Northamerica1000^(talk) 14:54, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to God-Grilla and rescope - the King of all BBQ Grills seems like it's attracted enough attention to pass WP:GNG, not the company (at least not yet), and notability is not inherited. And now I'm craving pulled pork. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:19, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheSpecialUser ^TSU 00:15, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheSpecialUser ^TSU 13:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and improve because the overall topic passes WP:GNG. Note the international news sources already present in the article for examples. Then rename if it's necessary to do so. Also, this nomination fails WP:DEL-REASON in entirety. No qualification for deletion whatsoever has been presented based upon Wikipedia policies or guidelines. Northamerica1000^(talk) 14:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Spin off God-Grilla and delete the rest: Does not appear to be notable apart from the God-Grilla p b p 15:10, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and just rename it to either God-Grilla or its official name. Being the world's largest barbeque device is something noteworthy, and it does give coverage for this. Dream Focus 20:48, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep God-Grilla is notable. AFD is not for renaming. CallawayRox (talk) 18:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Company built a giant barbecue. Warden (talk) 21:52, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename it God-Grilla. The company is not notable but the 'God-Grilla' is. John F. Lewis (talk) 00:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Note: I believe the notability is inherited in this case. What does the company do? They make BBQs, such as this really famous one... Also, the company is mentioned in every news piece, which meets the standard for SIGCOV. The Steve 06:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Notability is not inherited. If Joe Blow makes the world's largest fishing bobber, of course every news article on the bobber will say Joe Blow made it - but that doesn't make Joe Blow notable, just the bobber. In this case an article on the grill with a redirect from the company is appropriate. (Think of it as the corporate version of BLP1E.) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - I like to have a grain of common sense in my rules. For instance, if an author has a really famous book, then you should probably have an article on that author - they are to some extent inseparable. This is actually mentioned in the rule - if you bother to read it... Here, for instance, you should not have an article on God-grilla - the company is just a better place for it, that's all. And Joe Blow is famous - for making the worlds largest fishing bobber. That is his claim to fame. People are, after all, usually famous for something. In fact, it doesn't make sense to have a famous man-made thing without the man being famous. The Steve 05:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Fair enough - but in that case, WP:BLP1E would apply. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:19, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - Certainly. I'm pretty inclusionist, and I think this is a weakish sort of keep. :) The Steve 22:41, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Rename and recast Either would be acceptable to me. Perhaps the The Bushranger has the right idea. In any case, do not delete. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:15, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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