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The result was merge to Ron Paul. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 09:17, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Does not meet WP:GNG. The CSD was declined because the article's creator included "It has since become one of Ron Paul's most popular unofficial blog and forum" into the article. I can't find any independent sources to verify the article. Ishdarian 03:35, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the Daily Paul should stay because it is one of the biggest blogs/forum for Ron Paul, I do believe this article meets the criteria to stay. And in fact if you google the Daily Paul, you will find many results for it. LIbertyInSpace (talk) 03:42, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have any reliable sources to go off of? I did Google "Daily Paul", and a good chunk of the responses are to the site itself. Others are not reliable sources, or are reports of the same information. Ishdarian 03:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, there appears to be a lack of direct references to the blog on other sites, but google does generate 544,000,000 results for the site. LIbertyInSpace (talk) 04:04, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What?! I'm getting 321,000 tops, excluding Wikipedia and the site itself. By the way, have you read WP:GNG yet? Ishdarian 04:28, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I have read it. How did you get 321,000? I simply googled "daily paul", and it said there was 544,000,000 results. Did I do something wrong? LIbertyInSpace (talk) 05:37, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That's because you're getting everything with "Daily" and "Paul" in it. You need to search for the term "Daily Paul", in quotes in the search box, which gives me ~495,000 including Wikipedia, mirrors, and the site itself. - The Bushranger One ping only
- Yes, I have read it. How did you get 321,000? I simply googled "daily paul", and it said there was 544,000,000 results. Did I do something wrong? LIbertyInSpace (talk) 05:37, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What?! I'm getting 321,000 tops, excluding Wikipedia and the site itself. By the way, have you read WP:GNG yet? Ishdarian 04:28, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, there appears to be a lack of direct references to the blog on other sites, but google does generate 544,000,000 results for the site. LIbertyInSpace (talk) 04:04, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have any reliable sources to go off of? I did Google "Daily Paul", and a good chunk of the responses are to the site itself. Others are not reliable sources, or are reports of the same information. Ishdarian 03:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge/redirect to Ron Paul. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd be up for that. I wanted to merge it with the site's creator, but he doesn't seem notable enough to have his own page. Ishdarian 05:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the clarification. But do you not agree that 495,000 is enough to warrant an article? And I am fine with a merge, I just think that a separate article is better considering Ron Paul's article is already very large. LIbertyInSpace (talk) 06:21, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- No. I don't agree. Unless some reliable sources spring up, this subject does not deserve it's own article. Ishdarian 06:49, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Would Alexa count as a source? LIbertyInSpace (talk) 07:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Alexa would be a start, but more sources are needed about the site itself. Ishdarian 18:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Would Alexa count as a source? LIbertyInSpace (talk) 07:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- No. I don't agree. Unless some reliable sources spring up, this subject does not deserve it's own article. Ishdarian 06:49, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. How about this: http://digg.com/search?q=site:dailypaul.com&sort=relevance&age=last_month LIbertyInSpace (talk) 18:57, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Nope. Digg is nice, but it's not a WP:RS. Ishdarian 19:07, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, that is about all I can provide. You can do what you want with the article, but the fact remains that the Daily Paul is indeed Ron Paul's most popular fan-site. LIbertyInSpace (talk) 23:50, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 08:30, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge/Redirect to Ron Paul. Not enough coverage in secondary reliable sources to warrant a stand-alone article. As for the arguments regarding Google search results, see WP:GYNOT & WP:GHITS.--JayJasper (talk) 17:16, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I guess I was a "GoogleBoy". lol LIbertyInSpace (talk) 04:40, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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