Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meatwad

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Aqua Teen Hunger Force / Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1 characters. If anyone would like to merge the articles (preferably a condensed version), feel free to.

I'm closing this AfD (and the Frylock one) as redirect. Now, before someone screams, "But consensus was to keep," let me remind everyone that AfD is not a poll - outcomes are reached by evaluating arguments and sources, not a simple head count. While Meatwad is notable within the series, he doesn't meet the GNG; there are no sources that discuss his character directly (I went through each source present on the main article at this time). Can't find anything elsewhere that's not a blog post or forum thread. If sources turn up, we can reinstate the article. Any questions are welcome on my talk page. m.o.p 04:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Meatwad

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This not meet the article's notability guidelines for fictional characters, similar to Brock Samson, Doctor Thaddeus Venture and rest of The Venture Bros. characters which I've nominated for deletion due lack of sources and notability. Fails WP:GNG. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 06:10, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The topic is notable, being discussed in detail in sources such as Studies in American humor, Drawn to television: prime-time animation from the Flintstones to the Family Guy and Television cartoon shows: an illustrated encyclopedia. The material should therefore be kept in accordance with our editing policy. Warden (talk) 06:21, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I've heard of Meatwad, and looked up Frylock just the other day. Wiwaxia (talk) 07:18, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Given that this is one of the main characters of a notable TV series, the only options are 1) keep as a separate article; or 2) redirect (with or without merging) to the series' list of characters. It should have been dealt with through normal editing and discussion instead of being taken to AFD. postdlf (talk) 14:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep: One phenomenon I've frequently seen on Wikipedia is that someone will claim a topic is non-notable without first doing a search for sources. There are plenty of reliable secondary sources here: a Google Books search for "Frylock", for instance, turns up Studies in American Humor; Dracula in Visual Media; Atlanta Magazine; Drawn to Television, and so on. Also, Wikipedia uses the convention of splitting off articles on major characters from articles on television shows so the main articles don't become too long. Guideline & Policy Wonk (talk) 22:00, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- One phenomenon I've seen is people dumping copy&paste votes in AfD debates, although usually they get the name of the aricle right. Reyk _YO! 22:17, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Keep - Major character in a notable long-running series, and also made a major appearance in a feature film. Grapesoda22 (talk) 03:16, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or merge to List of Aqua Teen Hunger Force / Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1 characters: As with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frylock, the individual fictional character as a subject does not meet general notability guideline to deserve a stand-alone article. The article describes the character as a plot-only description of a fictional work and does not provide real-world reception or significance. The only section that gives something different is Other appearances which is more a trivia-like section. Again, search engine tests (including Google books, news and scholar) do not show evidence that reliable third-party sources address the fictional character in detail or giving it analytic or evaluative claims to deserve a stand-alone article. As I mentioned, Google hits in tertiary sources are not evidence of notability, since said sources are for the TV series where the fictional character is only addressed as part of the plot but it is not given significant coverage other than that or they are trivial mentions. Since the character is already covered in List of Aqua Teen Hunger Force / Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1 characters and the article title is a plausible search term, I believe that a redirect is the best alternative. I do not favor a merge since most of the content is not referenced with reliable secondary sources, but I would not be against a merge that trims everything that is unreferenced since the description in the list lacks references. Jfgslo (talk) 19:36, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or merge sourcing here is pretty weak. Not sure if any exist. But worth expanding at the list, and if sources come forward it might be split out once again. Shooterwalker (talk) 22:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.