Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Surfing in Ecuador

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:19, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Surfing in Ecuador

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I nominated the article for CSD A7, but my nom didn't quite fit. The article is a copy-paste move from other wikilinked articles, and doesn't seem to provide much benefit to the project. It almost seems to violate WP:NOTGUIDE, but others may see that point differently. Also, the article was speedied once for copyvio, but the offending material WAS NOT reintroduced in the reproduction. Ish dar ian 23:36, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ecuador-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:10, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:10, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The topic of surfing in Ecuador probably is a valid subject for an article. However, this article is in no way, shape or form, the basis for such an article as it actually doesn't contain any content relevant to the topic aside from the lede. the bulk of the text has been copied from other wikipedia articles on the individual locations, and done so without attribution. None of the location text actually addresses the topic of surfing in Ecuador. Essentially, this article requires a complete rewrite and as such, deletion is appropriate especially with the attribution violations. -- Whpq (talk) 14:02, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep this page . Surfing in Ecuador

I have made some edits and think this is a fine outline for ecuador, there are neighbors of ecuador Chile & Peru that have very similar pages. Surfing in this part of South America is fantastic and this article is a worth article

also , with the edits, This article should be within the scope of WikiProject Ecuador, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ecuador on Wikipedia.

THIS PAGE SHOULD BE KEPT.......

Twitterwiki (Twitterwiki) 14:42, 16 September 2011 (UTC)— Twitterwiki (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Keep - this article, by a newbie, has serious formatting problems, and could use some editing, but is a decent stub. I'm not sure the nominator has bothered to search online to see if sources are available. I found several books that mention the topic, and periodical articles, with just two clicks. A general search and a second search on another webcrawler reveal lots of junk but also possible gems of sources. The topic appears to be notable, and of potential interest to our core readership -- students. Bearian (talk) 14:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that the user is still relatively new, but he has engaged in a pattern of disruptive editing and sockpuppetry. I took a quick peek at the refs before the first speedy and found WP:COPYVIO issues. The books you linked to are mainly reprints of the same travel guide-type information. If somebody can dig up some sources that can improve the article and input them,then I would have no problem withdrawing this nomination. Ish dar ian 21:16, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep this page . Surfing in Ecuador

i am a fan of surfing in the galapagos and just added info on, what is to me , world famous San Cristobal Island

all the best to the wiki community to work on the article once it is a stub, also looking at the comments, this is a good thing for the This article should be within the scope of WikiProject Ecuador, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ecuador on Wikipedia.

Adammartinavalon (talk) 12:05, 17 September 2011 (UTC)— Adammartinavalon (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 06:23, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:54, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I've added additional sources to the article, including information from Frommers to verify information and information from "The Encyclopedia of Surfing," a tertiary source. I've also cleaned up the article (grammar, formatting, typos, layout, etc.). This article is able to be further improved, and at this point doesn't need a complete deletion and rewrite. The topic is likely notable per WP:GNG, and it's likely that more reliable sources are available, which I will work on further to establish. Northamerica1000 (talk) 00:41, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Found another (reliable, secondary) source, added to article: Thyberg, David "Where to Surf in Salinas, Ecuador." USA Today (Travel). Northamerica1000 (talk) 00:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - More newspaper sources added to article. Northamerica1000 (talk) 01:32, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The new editor should've had someone talk to them, if there were problems. AFD is not cleanup, its for last resort, after WP:BEFORE has been followed. There are reliable sources found giving significant coverage of this topic. Dream Focus 02:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.