Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uplands College

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The result was Pushed back to Draft. Black Kite (talk) 00:17, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Uplands College

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Notability is very low, no real citations , the Uplands Preparatory School has nothing to do with Uplands college. I nominate it for deletion. Barry Ne (talk) 14:51, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 01:20, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 01:20, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- Secondary school + existence = notable. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 19:34, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I totally disagree with the keep vote above; see WP:NSCHOOL; this article clearly fails WP:GNG Spiderone 12:14, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep 90th anniversary for the prep school has been covered by papers. found this Lowvelder newspaper article: [1] [2] White River Post (local newspaper) and Lowverlder also features regular articles and announcements for the school. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:06, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is about the high school and not the prep school. In any case primary school are not notable Barry Ne (talk) 05:02, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Ne, it covers pre-K to grade 12, so the 90 year history applies. See [8] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 05:52, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF, Good day. I respectfully accept the fact that, the school since 1997 catered for the high school phase as well. However it is two separate divisions. (Actually I belief it is two separate schools (2 Head Masters). The article itself says it caters for grade 8-12. If one however look at the article itself, no sources apart from the schools website appears as a source. You have subsequently shown more sources and citations than the original writer. I do not know with respect that if the article was written today and published as a draft if it would be accepted. Secondary sources are missing, reliability cannot be judge and significant coverage is an open debate. It is honestly, with no malicious intent, written like an advertisement, for example the words: picturesque, value-based education inspired parents, growing need for quality education within the region. I belief some of those words are subjective to a specific person’s mind and not a source. Although I don’t like the word, it is peacocking. So in closing I just want to say, I am not involved in education in South Africa, I do not stay near Uplands and, I do not know anybody there. At least I belief if not deleted, that it respectfully be pushed back as a draft until the citations and peacocking are removed. This is my last contribution and lets wait for more comments. We need this debate in order to have uniformity about notability of high schools and to get clarification on the inclusion of primary schools. Regards Barry Ne (talk) 10:21, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging and trimming it for peacock verbiage is different from checking whether it has enough sources to establish notability. And since this is a K-12 school, it is not just a primary school but primary + secondary. The article itself doesn't have to have those sources written in yet. I've provided two different local newspapers that give significant coverage on issues concerning the school. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 03:02, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 18:51, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 01:32, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It would be crazy for Wikipedia to choose to alienate a few hundred thousand potential editors who look up high schools and get started with those. So keep because it is a high school. Also keep per AngusWOOF's different arguments. --Doncram (talk) 06:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Push back to draft. If notable, citations and some other problems could be sorted out in the draft format, and once everything is in place publish it again Barry Ne (talk) 10:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - none of the sources listed above shows reliable and independent indepth coverage of the school. The first source, which is the only one that has any real history, looks like it's written by the school - it talks about "our badge" and "our hockey team". Also, it's a high school, even though South Africa uses the term college, so the [2017 RfC] suggests the bar is higher. I did a Google search and found this [[9]], which says it's the most expensive private school in the area, but that's it. Fails WP:GNG. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 00:02, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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