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July 7

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 7, 2017.

Branch Davidian views of the Lord's Supper

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:35, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This was on the Neelix list, but as a former article it needs to be handled here. I can't find anywhere Branch Davidian views on the Lord's Supper are discussed. It's not in Branch Davidians, nor at The Lord's Supper. -- Tavix (talk) 22:41, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Nintendo not-in-article redirects

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 August 1#Nintendo not-in-article redirects

Nintendo unlikely search redirects

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The result of the discussion was trainwreck. The discussion has shown so far that these redirects differ in level of plausibility and for completely different reasons. So I'm closing this as WP:TRAINWRECK. Bold retargeting and individual renomination are encouraged as anyone sees fit. Deryck C. 15:37, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Lordtobi, Tavix, Nyttend, and CoffeeWithMarkets: Please go ahead with your proposed changes and split nominations. I've also retagged "Nintendoh" and "Nintendou" as correct alternative transcriptions (without prejudice against another RfD). Deryck C. 09:50, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unlikely searches, most of which also seem to be vandalism. Lordtobi (✉) 21:25, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It might be a good idea to split these up given the differences in plausibility. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:26, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Richard Chang

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The result of the discussion was retarget to ASE Group. (non-admin closure) Legacypac (talk) 11:02, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

delete redirect - redirect may be target's brother, who had an article deleted after AfD - but no mention on target page and no reason to have this confusing redirect SesameballTalk 21:13, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Shots On The Hood Of My Car

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 15:32, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target article, nor at List of songs recorded by Kesha. From what I can tell, it's an unreleased song, but we've got no information on it. -- Tavix (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Abdul Rehman Chaudhry

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete by Nick. -- Tavix (talk) 21:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This seems unlikely as names are in a different order and they are different people. What I think happened here is that an editor wanted to create an article about Abdul Rehman Chaudhry, searched and found the Chaudhry Abdul Rehman Khan page (probably at the top of search results), then instead of creating it from a red link, put the new content in that page and moved it to the new title. Peter James (talk) 18:34, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Modi government

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 July 25#Modi government

Not Obsessed

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:40, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's not mentioned at the target article, nor at List of songs recorded by Kesha. From what I can tell, it's an unreleased song, but there's not any information on it. -- Tavix (talk) 18:18, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Dev Madan

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The result of the discussion was delete.  Salvidrim! · ✉ 06:22, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or retarget, having worked for Taito, Humongous Entertainment, DC Comics, Sucker Punch Productions, PopCap AND Amazon Game Studios, Loose Cannon Studios might just be his least notable venture, as it comprised one game only and shut down after just five years. Sucker Punch at seven years of employment as art director would be the most plausible redirect, however, I don't see a good target in any of the articles. Lordtobi (✉) 16:12, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Raymond E. Feist series

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 09:46, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is a follow-up to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 June 28#Wikipedia:RAY. Raymond E. Feist isn't mentioned at the target, and the WikiProject has no specific focus on this series (unlike, for example, several series that have specific task forces). As the bluelinks might give an impression that there is a WikiProject or task force by this name, these should be deleted as potentially misleading. -- Tavix (talk) 15:39, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Specillin

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Benzylpenicillin. -- Tavix (talk) 02:15, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Does not appear in the target article, and is not listed as one of the trade names for amoxicillin. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:55, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Tornado Outbreak characters

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:14, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as there is no such list. Lordtobi (✉) 14:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Captain Nimbus (character)

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The result of the discussion was delete.  Salvidrim! · ✉ 06:22, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as there is no sufficient information on the character. Lordtobi (✉) 14:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Zephyr (character)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Zephyr#Fictional characters. (non-admin closure) feminist 16:58, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as there is no sufficient information on the character. Lordtobi (✉) 14:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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R6TEA4

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:12, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as Wikipedia not a manual. R6TEA4 is apparently the file version of the NTSC Wii version, but should not be a redirect. Lordtobi (✉) 14:20, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Evil Bob

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The result of the discussion was delete "Wondercat"; retarget "Evil Bob" as proposed.. Deryck C. 09:45, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target page. --BDD (talk) 19:52, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Toby fox (artist)

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The result of the discussion was keep.  Salvidrim! · ✉ 06:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Misleading, as I don't think someone would type artist if they were looking for the game developer. They are probably looking for this instead. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:08, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Staten Island route

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The result of the discussion was keep East River route and South Brooklyn route; delete others. Deryck C. 18:28, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence that the ferry is the primary topic, "Foo route" could refer to any of a wide variety of subjects (rail lines, roadways, bus routes, etc). Thus, these redirects are confusing. – Train2104 (t • c) 17:05, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Bay Ridge route. As the google results (excluding Wikipedia) for this are all over the map. Keep the rest as it's abundantly clear from Google (excluding Wikipedia) that the New York ferries are the primary topic for these search terms, even if some are theoretically ambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 18:04, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Thryduulf: There is likely recentism here with the Google results as the ferries launched yesterday. Rockaway route returns subway information as the third link, "Astoria route" is all over the map, . – Train2104 (t • c)
I don't see that with the Astoria route. And it doesn't really matter if it's recentism or not - what matters is that currently these are the targets people using these search terms are looking for. If that changes down the line then they can be reconsidered, but based on the information currently available to me (searching from the UK) only one of these redirects is pointing to the right place. Thryduulf (talk) 19:10, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisting comment: Relist again as the original nomination was made when these ferry routes were still in media spotlight. Did the primary topic situations change since then?
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Overthrow of Saddam Hussein in Iraq

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The result of the discussion was move & redirect : Move to Overthrow of Saddam Hussein and retarget to Saddam Hussein#Invasion of Iraq in 2003  Ben – Salvidrim! · ✉ 00:17, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As a procedural note, Legacypac created the redirect Overthrow of Saddam Hussein during the discussion. Since the redirect to be moved already existed, the discussion should have been closed as delete. As such, I've reverted the move and deleted the redirect directly. -- Tavix (talk) 01:09, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Worth considering a retarget to Firdos Square statue destruction, which "marked the symbolic end" of Saddam. --Nevé–selbert 13:49, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as unlikely search term. I could see "Overthrow of Saddam Hussein" or "Overthrow of Iraq", but "Overthrow of Saddam Hussein in Iraq" seems overly specific for a redirect. Kaldari (talk) 17:39, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Khash (dish

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 13:20, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Mis-formatted parenthetical disambiguations. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:02, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Obituary

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. -- Tavix (talk) 02:09, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This was previously redirected to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a blog, web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site (WP:NOTMEMORIAL). However, it was changed to WP:Deceased Wikipedians in 2008; the last edit prior to the nomination was... 2008. I used the "What links here" tool and found that many user talk pages use the "WP:Obituary" to refer to the previous target, WP:NOTMEMORIAL. No other pages refer it to the current target, deceased Wikipedians. Also, I notice that Wikipedia:OBITUARY was created in 2014, yet it was used just once to refer it to WP:NOTMEMORIAL (implicitly). Therefore, I propose either retargeting both to WP:NOTMEMORIAL, or disambiguate one with at least two individual pages and retarget two others to the dabpage. George Ho (talk) 15:58, 18 June 2017 (UTC); amended, 06:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I added just "WP:OBIT", which is used in different pages to refer to either one, usually the NOTMEMORIAL. All others look too different, and they are not named either "Obituary" or "OBIT". Better to treat them individually, Piotrus, than to bundle all others into here, especially when each of them may have different meanings but somewhat different from "OBIT(UARY)". George Ho (talk) 06:32, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:30, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Haitian Standard French

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 02:08, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Resulted from a controversial page move without discussion (Dinglebat500, 319 edits; currently blocked) to a term that is "nonexistent" describing "Haitian French"; unlike the "standard Haitian Creole (which does). This move was swiftly overturned by editors. "Standard French" (from France) is taught in school as well as spoken in Haiti. A variety while spoken, there is no official standard to be able to bare such a title. There are no sources to provide evidence for this claim. According to History, Society and Variation: In Honor of Albert Valdman (Valdman Albert, J; Clements Clancy), there is even a divided consensus on whether or not Haitian French even exists in Haiti. (It does however) and it ranges differently among its speakers. So a Haitian "Standard" French is impossible to determine and such terminology is unfounded. Opposing parties please provide where this term is in usage. For the sake of WP:CONSISTENCY, we do not have a: Swiss Standard French, Belgian Standard French, Quebec Standard French, Louisiana Standard French, Aostan Standard French, and Meridional Standard French as redirects either. Thank you for your consideration. Savvyjack23 (talk) 19:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC) To add: A side-by-side comparison between "Haitian French" and "Haitian Standard French" from 1 July 2015 - present virtually shows no hits for the latter, except during the time of creation and redirect activity (from edits and views from cached). [6] Savvyjack23 (talk) 20:38, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Both delete and keep bring up good arguments. One more week will allow consensus to settle entirely.
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Airpot

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:05, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is an actual word, unrelated to the target topic, Bizarrely there is no Wiktionary entry, nor could I find an article to retarget it to, I assume most people searching for this would not look for the current target. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:43, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Added Taking a look at the page history this redirect was created because it was used as a misspelling in one source, so the editor thought that was appropriate to create a redirect, so this is a classic example of criterion #2 of WP:R#DELETE, a short stub entry was created later, but it was quickly reverted to a redirect. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:45, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Airpoprt

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:39, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely typo, little page views. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:39, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Villagate

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 13:21, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This was mentioned there, with a reference (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/election-2015-32462250/david-cameron-s-west-ham-football-brain-fade) but has been removed, and is probably not significant enough to be mentioned in the article. Peter James (talk) 23:53, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ltd. Matsushita Electric Industrial Company

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 July 15#Ltd. Matsushita Electric Industrial Company

Pre-order status

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 19:45, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vague term, not exclusive to iTunes, maybe retarget to Pre-order but not a likely search term, so I would prefer deletion. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:35, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ual.de

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:51, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Obscure websites not mentioned in target. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:28, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Inc. American Airlines

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All of these are unlikely terms to search because the "Inc." part is never used before the company name (American Airlines Inc. etc are fine.) - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:23, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, they've been added. For future reference, the template is {{subst:rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectName2|target=TargetArticle2}}, substituting the redirect name and target name (found at WP:RFD#HOWTO, Step II). -- Tavix (talk) 14:53, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Got it, thanks. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:57, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Battle Royale (2015 film)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 13:21, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Here is the next batch of "faulty crystal ball" film redirects. As these years have already passed, it's impossible for these films to be released that year. It's also implausible that someone would type these redirects in the search bar due to the incorrect year disambiguation. (raw list available on talk page) -- Tavix (talk) 00:06, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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