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editHi, JC. If I were to nominate you to become an admin, would you accept? — Dentonius 13:03, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
There is no category like that. Are you planning to create it? ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 10:32, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Oh I see you have already created it. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 10:33, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. I have now. Thank you. John Cross (talk) 10:34, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Well, terms containing 'n' can already be found here: 'n'#Derived terms; so I think that category is redundant. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 10:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- You are right to say that there is some duplication. I think categories perform a slightly different function. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates John Cross (talk) 10:40, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Wiktionary is not any database site, and we create categories if they are useful. CAT:English terms with vocalic W is useful because we cannot get the same list anywhere else. But I cannot see how a category like CAT:English terms containing 'n' is useful when we already get to see the terms in the Derived terms section. We do not have CAT:English terms containing & because a list of terms containing the symbol can be found here: &#English. So I believe you created that cat. in error, and it should be deleted. You had also earlier added the redundant cat. CAT:Wiktionary:Votes that have been closed to some vote pages, but it’s been speedily deleted today by @Mahagaja. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 11:18, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Wiktionary is a community and if the community decides to delete a category that I have created then I will accept that. If you wish to nominate any category or other page I have created for deletion then you can. People will have different views as to what is/is not useful. We do have a category for English terms spelled with &: Category:English_terms_spelled_with_&. John Cross (talk) 08:17, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Wiktionary is not any database site, and we create categories if they are useful. CAT:English terms with vocalic W is useful because we cannot get the same list anywhere else. But I cannot see how a category like CAT:English terms containing 'n' is useful when we already get to see the terms in the Derived terms section. We do not have CAT:English terms containing & because a list of terms containing the symbol can be found here: &#English. So I believe you created that cat. in error, and it should be deleted. You had also earlier added the redundant cat. CAT:Wiktionary:Votes that have been closed to some vote pages, but it’s been speedily deleted today by @Mahagaja. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 11:18, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- You are right to say that there is some duplication. I think categories perform a slightly different function. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates John Cross (talk) 10:40, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Well, terms containing 'n' can already be found here: 'n'#Derived terms; so I think that category is redundant. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 10:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. I have now. Thank you. John Cross (talk) 10:34, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I think you've added this erroneously to a few entries. I just removed it from whiskey sour: here, "sour" is a noun, and the plural is "whiskey sours", not "whiskeys sour". That is different from cases like "knights-errant" and "presidents-elect". Other dubious-looking ones include drum major and trumpet major, and code orange (and all the other code colours). Equinox ◑ 12:22, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Equinox. I have been looking into this further.It was not the easiest thing to research. I was able to find out that a Fife Major was a non-commissioned officer whereas Major is a military rank of commissioned officer status. I think that makes it unlikely that a Fife Major was ever considered a type of Major. In the British Army, a drum major holds the rank of sergeant, staff sergeant/colour sergeant, or warrant officer class 2. Similarly, a trumpet major is not a major.
- See also: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/A_military_dictionary_explaining_and_des/8X8DAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1
- John Cross (talk) 07:47, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I will have a think about the ones you describe as dubious. John Cross (talk) 22:10, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Equinox I am not sure you would have seen this due to my failure to 'at' you. John Cross (talk) 06:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. Feel free to fix. It is worth explaining these things briefly in the etymology as they are often not intuitive. Equinox ◑ 02:09, 20 November 2023 (UTC)