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::::*:Please stop abusing CFD as a platform to publish untruths as part of your taunting games. [[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 13:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC) |
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::::*::A good faith editor would at this stage withdraw the nomination, and apologise both the failure to read WP:SMALLCAT and for their lack of [[WP:BEFORE]], [[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 14:05, 24 June 2023 (UTC) |
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* If merged, also merge to a "people from county" category. It escapes me what the encyclopedic value of grouping police officers (or any other occupation) by place of birth is. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 12:59, 24 June 2023 (UTC) |
* If merged, also merge to a "people from county" category. It escapes me what the encyclopedic value of grouping police officers (or any other occupation) by place of birth is. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 12:59, 24 June 2023 (UTC) |
Revision as of 14:53, 24 June 2023
June 24
NEW NOMINATIONS
Category:Lords of Worb
- Propose merging Category:Lords of Worb to Category:Swiss nobility and Category:People from Worb
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:39, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
People educated by school in GB
- Rationale: all of the above categories have 1 article at the time of listing. Previous cfds (often nominated by user:Bearcat) have deleted high school alumni categories on WP:SMALLCAT grounds, such as this. In contrast this more recent one has stimulated editors to populate most of them, an excellent outcome. A search such as this for Fernhill might find potential additions. When adding an article for an alumnus, the school should be mentioned in the article, preferably sourced. In some cases the school article, linked in the table above, will have a list of illustrious alumni. (The nominator has no obligation to make any attempt to populate any categories created by others. That responsibility lies entirely with the creator of a category, whose first edits post-creation should be to find members, and delete the wretched thing if no more can be found.) Oculi (talk) 12:39, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete if not populated, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:41, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support I'm not even going to read this. I'm supporting because I just love the table. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:34, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Irish police officers by county
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Fermanagh to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Fermanagh
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Kildare to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Kildare
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Laois to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Laois
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Leitrim to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Leitrim
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Louth to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Louth
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Meath to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Meath
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Offaly to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Offaly
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Waterford to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Waterford
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Westmeath to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Westmeath
- Propose upmerging Category:Police officers from County Wexford to Category:Irish police officers and merge to Category:People from County Wexford
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SmallCat since each of these has less than 4 members. Some are possibly mis-labelled. For example there is only one member each for counties Laois and Offaly: each member died before the creation of the current state so they would not have known their counties by those names; they would have used "Queens's County" and "King's County" respectively. Similarly, the occupants of the Tipperary category were born before the current anschluss; the county names in those days were North Tipperary and South Tipperary. The scope of the remaining categories would also benefit from a note to say that the scope is for people who were born in those counties; like John Cullen (police officer), they may not have served their police careers in their county of birth. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:29, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Ireland has been notified of this discussion.
- Keep per WP:SMALLCAT, as part of an established series which is still being populated.
- The objection on the basis of the names of the counties is beyond absurd. These categories have no timeframe, and we always name categories by the most recent name. f we were to purge Laos an Offaly categories of articles from before 1922, we'd devastate the categories.
- As to North Tipperary and South Tipperary, that is nonsense. All the categories for North Tipperary and South Tipperary were merged to County Tipperary. There is reason to make police an eception. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:04, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment The only rationale offered is WP:SmallCat. The other obiter dicta is offered as a curious by-the-way. Regarding "we always name categories by the most recent name", why was that not applied in the case of Walter Edgeworth-Johnstone who was born, not in County Dublin (which is currently abolished as you know), but in the county of Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown? Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:15, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Laurel Lodged: Go READ WP:SMALLCAT. You don't even need to read the whole paragraph: Its headline is Small with no no potential for growth.
- Do you understand what no potential for growth means?
- You clearly did not do any WP:BEFORE. In the last hour, I added 100 articles to the 31 subcats of Category:Irish police officers by county. If you had made any attempt to examine the possibility of expansion, you would have bee, aware that these categories have potential for growth.
- Category:Irish police officers by county has 31 subcats (30 counties + the city of Belfast). Between them they now contain 278 articles, which is an average of 8.96 articles per category. That is a healthy size, and there is till room for growth.
- Of course, the distribution is not even, but WP:SMALLCAT has always allowed small categories as part of a series, which this is.
- The whole nomination is at best a act of unintended disruption caused by a failure to do WP:BEFORE. However, I find it very hard to believe that after all your years at CFD you are not aware that WP:SMALLCAT is for categories with "no potential for growth", or that it does not apply to established series.
- Please end the disruption by promptly withdrawing this nomination. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:27, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks I would like to offer my thanks to BHG for acknowledging that it was "unintended disruption". It's nice when she assumes that I work in Good Faith. Oh wait...did I just admit to being disruptive. Darn. Sigh. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:32, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- I assume good faith until the assumption becomes untenable, as it has here.
- But of course it is wholly untrue to say that I was
acknowledging that it was "unintended disruption"
. I said that it is "at best a act of unintended disruption". - Please stop abusing CFD as a platform to publish untruths as part of your taunting games. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note that as a demonstration of LL's bad faith, LL made no response to the expansion of the categories, or to my comments about how WP:SMALLCAT supports keeping these categories. Instead, they just posted snark.
- A good faith editor would at this stage withdraw the nomination, and apologise both the failure to read WP:SMALLCAT and for their lack of WP:BEFORE, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:05, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks I would like to offer my thanks to BHG for acknowledging that it was "unintended disruption". It's nice when she assumes that I work in Good Faith. Oh wait...did I just admit to being disruptive. Darn. Sigh. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:32, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment The only rationale offered is WP:SmallCat. The other obiter dicta is offered as a curious by-the-way. Regarding "we always name categories by the most recent name", why was that not applied in the case of Walter Edgeworth-Johnstone who was born, not in County Dublin (which is currently abolished as you know), but in the county of Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown? Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:15, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- If merged, also merge to a "people from county" category. It escapes me what the encyclopedic value of grouping police officers (or any other occupation) by place of birth is. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:59, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Marco. Good suggestion. I've amended the noms accordingly. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:29, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: I agree about the by-county targets, However, any merging should bed one manually, because many of these articles are already in subcats of Category:Irish police officers or in subcats of the relevant "people from county Foo".
- Tho of course per WP:SMALLCAT, no merge should happen.
- As to occupation by place, the Irish categories for "people from County Foo" were unusably big until I started diffusing them 6 weeks ago. Category:People from County Galway had over 900 articles, and Category:People from County Cork had over 800. They were a jumble of wildly different articles, from medieval scribes to Youtubers to Jacobite soldiers to 6th century Abbots.
- I am diffusing them by place and also by occupation ideally both, but rarely by the intersection of town/village and occupation. This diffusion creates more coherent groups of more manageable size which make it easier to find articles. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:45, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Diffusing by place makes sense, by occupation not so much. If they are diffused solely because they are too big then one diffusion criterion should suffice. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:44, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- That's not the only reason. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:51, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Diffusing by place makes sense, by occupation not so much. If they are diffused solely because they are too big then one diffusion criterion should suffice. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:44, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Merge - this is not part of "large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme" being neither large nor accepted; cfd is the place to challenge whether something is 'accepted'. In any case it suffers from WP:NARROWCAT: there is no connection between 'from county' and 'occupation'. This was discussed at length in Architects from Dorset, suggested by user:Johnbod, which was upmerged, nothing to do with smallcat. (It was one of the first appearances of user:Rathfelder's doppelganger user:Bigwig7.) Oculi (talk) 13:55, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Colm Browne's membership of this category is unsourced. Adding unsourced categories is frowned upon. George Kingsmill left Ireland for Canada aged 21 having been in the army; this is categorisation by place of birth, which is discouraged (see WP:COP-PLACE: "The place of birth, although it may be significant from the perspective of local studies, is rarely defining from the perspective of an individual.") So neither of the members of Category:Police officers from County Laois is legitimate, and the category is founded on wishful thinking. Oculi (talk) 14:14, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Oculi: if you really believe that there is here is no connection between 'from county' and 'occupation', then nominate all the occupational subcats of Category:People by first-level administrative country subdivision, Category:People by city and occupation so that the principle can be consistently.
- OTOH, if your objection is to subcatting police by county, then at least add the whole of Category:Irish police officers by county.
- But note that WP:NARROWCAT does not apply here. "Similar intersections can be made for related categories" applies here. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:16, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:History of political thought journals
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 10:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:48, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Irish astrophysicists
- Nominator's rationale: 1 article (10:43, 24 June 2023). An editor who creates a category has a duty to populate it if possible before moving on to other matters. A category consisting of one article is useless and gives the impression in this case that the Irish are not gifted Astrophysicists. I could populate the category quite easily (eg this elementary google search) but would rather spend my time trying to encourage editors to complete their self-allotted tasks properly. Note also that Astrophysicists are not explicitly gathered together by continent; a sad omission which someone contributing to this category tree might care to address. Oculi (talk) 10:43, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Merge if not populated to Category:Astrophysicists, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:49, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Imperial Chinese government officials by province
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians by province to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Anhui to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Beijing to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Chongqing to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Fujian to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Gansu to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Guangdong to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Guangxi to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Guizhou to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Hebei to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Heilongjiang to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Henan to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Hubei to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Hunan to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Jiangsu to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Jiangxi to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Jilin to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Liaoning to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Shandong to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Shanghai to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Shanxi to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Sichuan to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Xinjiang to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Yunnan to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Qing dynasty politicians from Zhejiang to Category:Qing dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Anhui to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Fujian to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Guangdong to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Hebei to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Henan to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Hubei to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Jiangsu to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Jiangxi to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Shaanxi to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Shandong to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Shanghai to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Shanxi to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Sichuan to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Tianjin to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Song dynasty politicians from Zhejiang to Category:Song dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Anhui to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Beijing to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Fujian to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Gansu to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Guangdong to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Hebei to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Henan to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Hubei to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Hunan to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Inner Mongolia to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Jiangsu to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Jiangxi to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Jilin to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Liaoning to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Ningxia to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Shaanxi to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Shandong to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Shanxi to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Sichuan to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Xinjiang to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Propose merging Category:Tang dynasty politicians from Zhejiang to Category:Tang dynasty government officials
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCLOCATION, trivial intersection between occupation and province where people grew up. A second merge target is not needed because articles are already categorized by city or county within every province. If these categories are not merged, then at least rename "politicians" to "government officials" per precedent 1 and 2. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Kings of Syria
- Propose merging Category:1st-century BC kings of Syria (1 C, 1 P) to Category:Kings of Syria and Category:1st-century BC monarchs in the Middle East
- Propose merging Category:2nd-century BC kings of Syria (1 C) to Category:Kings of Syria and Category:2nd-century BC monarchs in the Middle East
- Propose merging Category:20th-century kings of Syria (1 P) to Category:Kings of Syria and
Category:20th-century monarchs in AsiaCategory:20th-century monarchs in the Middle East
- Nominator's rationale: merge redundant category layer as we already have categories of Seleucid kings by century. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:14, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Curious as to why Category:20th-century monarchs in the Middle East does not exist. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:00, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, that is odd. I created the category now. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Barons of Bernberg
- Propose merging Category:Barons of Bernberg to Category:Nobility in North America
- Nominator's rationale: merge, the category only contains one article, about a landgrave in North Carolina. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Merge That one article is also the only member of Category:Lords of Worb. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:26, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Gates in the United Arab Emirates
- Nominator's rationale: Only contains one entry, which is not really a gate. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, or else merge to Category:Gates. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Commercial buildings in the United Arab Emirates
- Nominator's rationale: This will only contain one category after the below nomination. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Museums in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi
- Nominator's rationale: Pointless category layer. Contains only two subcategories that can be reached via other paths from all parents. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Pyramids in Dubai
- Propose merging Category:Pyramids in Dubai to Category:Buildings and structures in Dubai and Category:Pyramids in Asia
- Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. The parent Category:Pyramids in the United Arab Emirates has no other members. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Merge Hard to see this category ever reaching 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:48, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Merge It's not even a true pyramid. It's pyramidally or pyramidallic. Donchajustlove neologisms? Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:07, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Skyscraper hotels in the United Arab Emirates by city
- Nominator's rationale: Pointless category layer. This is the only subcategory of its parent. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Merge for Now iwth no objection to recreating if any content arises. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Skyscraper office buildings in the United Arab Emirates by city
- Nominator's rationale: Pointless category layer. This is the only subcategory of its parent. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Merge for Now with no objection to recreation if more content appears later. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Office buildings in the United Arab Emirates
- Nominator's rationale. Pointless category layer. Only content is Category:Skyscraper office buildings in the United Arab Emirates by city and Dubai International Financial Centre, which is not an office building. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete the Subcats/Neutral on Parent per nom. I'm wondering if the country one is worth keeping though to aid navigation across Category:Office buildings by country. (But there are already more subcats at Category:Skyscraper office buildings by country so maybe not.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 11:45, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Buildings and structures in Dubai by condition
- Nominator's rationale: Pointless category layer. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Category:National Express companies to Category:Mobico Group - C2D Queezelaspeed (talk) 01:14, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Category:P&O (company) to Category:P&O - C2D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Queezelaspeed (talk • contribs) 01:10, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Recipients of the Naguib Mahfouz Medal for Literature
- Propose Deleting Category:Recipients of the Naguib Mahfouz Medal for Literature
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD, WP:PERFCAT, WP:NONDEFINING
- The American University in Cairo has an annual project where they pick a worthy book in Arabic, translate it into English, and then publish it through their University Press. The Naguib Mahfouz Medal for Literature definitely fits the school's cross-cultural mission. This category groups authors who wrote the winning books but those biography articles don't treat this award as defining, generally listing it with other honours. The category contents are already listified right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Background We deleted another university award/publishing deal category right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Category:Prix Jean Freustié winners
- Propose Deleting Category:Prix Jean Freustié winners
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD, WP:NONDEFINING
- The Jean Freustié Prize is a literary award from France given to French-language authors of "prose work: a novel, short story, autobiography, biography or essay". The author articles don't treat this award as defining, generally listing it with other honours. This is one of many French literary award categories created in late 2016/early 2017. The category contents are already listified right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)