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==Talk Page Archive==
Archive 3 has been created with a link at above right. Archive 4, when needed in the future, should be a new subpage (same as creating an article) titled "Talk:Psychokinesis/Archive_4" and the link added to the template on this page's code. For further information on archiving see [[Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page]]. There are also [[User:5Q5|Step-by-Step Instructions - Archiving a Talk Page]] on my personal User Page. Thank you. [[User:5Q5|5Q5]] 19:38, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

==List of cultural references to PK and TK was deleted==
I have just learned, after the fact, that the above useful research list has been deleted from Wikipedia forever. The article, history log, and talk page with pending titles: all gone. Here is the timeline of events as best as I can determine: On Tuesday July 24, 2007 a Wikipedia administrator by the user name of [[User:Eyrian|Eyrian]] ([[Special:Contributions/Eyrian|Contribs]]) flagged the article with a delete nomination banner (this editor does this to a lot of list articles). [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_cultural_references_to_psychokinesis_and_telekinesis|Voting took place here]] and on Sunday July 29, 2007, the article was deleted. It would have been nice if someone had notified us editors on this main PK article from which the list linked. If you're thinking you can always find the list at the Internet Archive, no, I checked, it's not there. Right now, the only place you can find it is in Google's temporary [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22List+of+cultural+references+to+psychokinesis+and+telekinesis%22 cache of the page]. I would urge everyone to copy the page from there quickly before it disappears... If anyone ever wants to volunteer to create and manage a web page with the list, be sure to add it to the external links section. [[User:5Q5|5Q5]] 13:54, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


== Terrible Page ==
:There are some admins who will undelete the page if you ask them, but only for your own use. It won't stay on wikipedia forever. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_administrators_who_will_provide_copies_of_deleted_articles This page should help you.] [[User:Totnesmartin|Totnesmartin]] 14:48, 30 July 2007
::Thanks for the info, just the type of helpful input I was looking for; though realistically I don't think they would put the List back up, but it's very useful to know there is a dispute process. I've saved the code from Google's cache. [[User:5Q5|5Q5]] 18:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::they'd do it if you just wanted to save the information on your own computer, but it would be deleted again soon. Having said that, [[Unexplained disappearances]] was resurrected from deletion, and is still around today - but '''only''' because a gang of editors worked hard to make massive improvements. [[User:Totnesmartin|Totnesmartin]] 19:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


I came here for an encyclopedic entry on Telekinesis, not trying to be convinced it wasn’t real. I wanted like a history, an explanation of its use in pop culture etc. Instead I got an edge lord Facebook response to a post I never saw. There is place for the fact it’s not real, but there is no information here whatsoever [[Special:Contributions/2603:7000:A703:C99C:41FF:BF7D:C56C:3F7D|2603:7000:A703:C99C:41FF:BF7D:C56C:3F7D]] ([[User talk:2603:7000:A703:C99C:41FF:BF7D:C56C:3F7D|talk]]) 13:42, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
There does seem to be a purge of "in popular culture" articles going on currently; but then the quality of most of them is awful, just huge lists of the topic being mentioned in videogames and sitcoms. [[User:Totnesmartin|Totnesmartin]] 14:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


:Read ALL the article, particularly the Belief section. [[User:Roxy the dog|'''Roxy''' ]]the [[User talk:Roxy the dog|'''dog''']] 14:10, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
'''Update''' - The lengthy PK/TK Cultural References List is now gone from Google, but don't worry, all that hard work by Wiki editors has been saved and will likely reappear on the Internet again someday, possibly as an addition to this [http://jamesaconrad.tripod.com/TK-movie-list.html Hollywood PK/TK Movie List], which was a "See also" link on that page. [[User:5Q5|5Q5]] 13:59, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


:: You wanted a pop culture/in-universe treatment of the subject? Try [https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Telekinesis]. [[User:LuckyLouie|- LuckyLouie]] ([[User talk:LuckyLouie|talk]]) 16:59, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
== What a mess... ==


::: Yes, at the very least the debunking section should come after the description of what it is and its history. Flicking through some random other languages (French, Italian, German, Norwegian) one sees the pattern you would expect of 1. what the thing is, followed by 2. people's opinions of it. It's only the English one which is putting "reactions/rebuttals" before the full description of the subject itself and the claims it makes. It reads more like a lengthy polemic than an encyclopaedic article. Unfortunately this does seem to be quite common on English Wikipedia. [[Special:Contributions/86.19.7.12|86.19.7.12]] ([[User talk:86.19.7.12|talk]]) 17:39, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
This article is horrific. Anyone reading this please comment immediately so that we can start improving it. Please add some input. Thanks. [[User:Wikidudeman|'''<font color="blue">Wikidudeman</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Wikidudeman|(talk)]]</sup> 16:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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I came here for an encyclopedic entry on Telekinesis, not trying to be convinced it wasn’t real. I wanted like a history, an explanation of its use in pop culture etc. Instead I got an edge lord Facebook response to a post I never saw. There is place for the fact it’s not real, but there is no information here whatsoever 2603:7000:A703:C99C:41FF:BF7D:C56C:3F7D (talk) 13:42, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Read ALL the article, particularly the Belief section. Roxy the dog 14:10, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You wanted a pop culture/in-universe treatment of the subject? Try [1]. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:59, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, at the very least the debunking section should come after the description of what it is and its history. Flicking through some random other languages (French, Italian, German, Norwegian) one sees the pattern you would expect of 1. what the thing is, followed by 2. people's opinions of it. It's only the English one which is putting "reactions/rebuttals" before the full description of the subject itself and the claims it makes. It reads more like a lengthy polemic than an encyclopaedic article. Unfortunately this does seem to be quite common on English Wikipedia. 86.19.7.12 (talk) 17:39, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]