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: I agree. - [[User:Scarpy|Scarpy]] ([[User talk:Scarpy|talk]]) 17:20, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
: I agree. - [[User:Scarpy|Scarpy]] ([[User talk:Scarpy|talk]]) 17:20, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

: While I identify with the generation this article is referring to, being from Canada I never knew of this game. Though we had a similar game on our school computers in Ontario called [[Northwest Fur Trader]] - [[User:Kisewi|Kisewi]] ([[User talk:Kisewi|talk]]) 16:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC)


== not the first to have access to personal computers in schools ==
== not the first to have access to personal computers in schools ==

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Notability Discussion

There were previous attempts to create pages for this topic as Xennial and Generation Catalano. These terms were somewhat haphazardly referenced in both the Generation X and Millennials articles. The topic of those that identify between Gen X and Millennials has come up in the New Yorker, Slate, Huffington Post, and other publications as well. It's a topic that has come up multiple times over the last several years.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Udeezy (talkcontribs) 19:54, 22 June 2016‎

Udeezy, the majority of your sources don't even mention this neologism. Of those that do, one is by the coiner of the term and one is an obscure columnist. --NeilN talk to me 19:44, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I understand (and expected) the concerns about the article but respectfully disagree. This is a topic that I've seen come up several times in different ways (The New Yorker article I saw today prompted me to revisit the draft I created several months ago). Those between Gen X and Millennials feel they belong to both and neither and have come up with their own definition. The concept and the various terms have appeared in the New Yorker, the Atlantic, Fast Company, and other publications. I think it qualifies as notable based on that. The concept was included in both the Gen X and Millennial articles with a laundry listing of sources. I think it should get it's own page to be fleshed out as the definition evolves. Otherwise, it will continue to be proposed and will continue needing to be updated in two places. Assuming this article is deleted, the next time it comes up will be the fourth time someone different has proposed the content is notable. I get that it's not referenced routinely in every discussion of these generations, but I think it's referenced often enough to be notable. Udeezy (talk) 20:54, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Most of these sources don't mention "Oregon Trail Generation" but instead refer to Xennials and Generation Catalano, but both of these were apparently recently deleted. This doesn't really seem notable enough for a stand alone article yet because the sourcing isn't comparable to the other demographic cohort articles. There are no sources from demographers; no sources from sociologists, no research; not even any research from ad agencies or those trying to market to these individuals. The current sources are all basically opinion pieces, apparently from individuals in these birth years. I think this definitely warrants mention on both the Generation X and Millennials pages regarding people on the cusp feeling "in between", but the sourcing doesn't really seem enough for a stand alone article. --DynaGirl (talk) 05:45, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Article Name

I think that Oregon Trail Generation is the best name at the moment for this content based on google trends. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Udeezy (talkcontribs) 02:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

i personally like the title "Oregon Trail Generation", but the best title for this article would be the "XY Cusp" - Benjamin5152414 (talk) 05:31, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In many newer contexts The "Oregon Trail Generation" is what is referred to as Generation Y. The original thought for GenY was that OTG would extend out to a full generation, but the next "clearly accepted" large generational group following GenX is Millennials, which leaves the weird interstitial that gets shuffled back and forth. So, it'd actually be X/M(illennial) cusp. Meanwhile, I loath that appellation almost as much as I hate GenY itself. Either makes an entire group the afterthought of another generation. But, that last is entirely personal feelings. Darker Dreams (talk) 13:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Millennials and Generation Y are terms for the same generation. The next generation is being referred to as "Generation Z" but a catchier term will probably come about to replace it as Millennials did for Y. Benjamin5152414 (talk) 04:39, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1971 American videogame

I'm not sure it's appropriate to write "the 1971 American videogame Oregon Trail." While it may be true that the very first version of Oregon Trail came out in 1971, that was an extremely limited release, only played by a few hundred people. And that version was certainly not played by the "Oregon Trail Generation." Most of this generation probably played the 1985 Apple II version. I think we should revise this statement to include some of this gray-area. Howrad (talk) 03:55, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. - Scarpy (talk) 17:20, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
While I identify with the generation this article is referring to, being from Canada I never knew of this game. Though we had a similar game on our school computers in Ontario called Northwest Fur Trader - Kisewi (talk) 16:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

not the first to have access to personal computers in schools

I previously left Cassie McClure writing for Las Cruces Sun-News claim that those on the GenX/Millennial cusp were the first to have access to personal computers at school in quotes (it needs to be quotes because it's not true), but people were editing it to a statement of fact so I removed it. Even the name of this neologism illustrates McClure's claim as false. The Oregon Trail (video game) game is a school based computer game which was originally used in schools before the cuspers described by this term were even born. It's from the early 1970s.--DynaGirl (talk) 13:19, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]