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Effect on intelligence?

Does this practise cause damage to the brain? Has anyone studied the effects on learning, speech, etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.131.58 (talk) 03:47, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, there is nothing on the health effects of this... Arny (talk) 20:16, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Contemporary Practice

I found that some tribes in Vanuatu still practice cranial head deformation (can be seen in this youtube video [1]. This is very interesting, but not discussed very much in the article. Will someone please add a section to this article about the current practices of head deformation across the world? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.180.130.22 (talk) 19:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This will sound strange, but I've encountered a very weak form of the practice in China. Chinese parents often make their children sleep face-up on books or other hard objects in the hope that this will flatten the back of the child's head and provide a nice touxing (lit. head-form). It's nowhere near as intense as the instances cited in this article, but might be worth looking into. 207.188.232.179 (talk) 15:16, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious, is this related to trepanning? I'm guessing that the body modification article should probably link [and be linked] here.

And one more thing: does this practice start when a person is in infanthood? I remember my aunt telling me to be careful with my baby cousin, as she said it would have been extremely easy to deform the shape of his head. :O (Or is this an old wive's tale?) Eirein 22:42, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! No, this article has nothing to do with trepanning, but sertainly is a body modification and should be linked as such.

The article is about intentional skull deformation in early childhood in some primitive societies. By skull deformation is meant changing the shape of the skull. When I complete the article it will become more clear.Internedko 00:47, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

:) Alright, I just added a link to it from body modification under 'cranial binding'; I'm assuming that cranial binding is a form of artificial skull deformation. (There's no article for cranial binding, anyway.) Sounds interesting! I'm looking forward to the complete article, and finding out whether my aunt was serious or not. Eirein 00:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Varied reasons versus varied hypotheses

"The reasons for performing cranial deformation are varied. A prominent hypothesis is that ..."

This is confusing: if the reasons are varied, what are they? If it is not known what they are, how do we know that they are varied? If there are only hypotheses and no accepted theory, then there may not be a variety of reasons, but only (say) one. -Pgan002 23:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does this link to the above mentioned 19th century book with fringe theories about Atlantis add anything substantial to the subject at hand? I would really like to delete it on grounds of WP:EL section 4 "Links normally to be avoided", rationale #2: Any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research. See Wikipedia:Attribution#Reliable sources. Personally, I'm agnostic vis-a-vis certain fringe theories about UFOs and even Atlantis but this article belongs to neither subjects so we should be able to hold it to a higher standard, yes? —jibun≈παντα ρει≈ (keskustele!) 01:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

This article and Head flattening cover the exact same topic (and even share one of the same photos). One should be merged into the other. 192.104.39.2 (talk) 17:10, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How bizzare. --Dangherous 12:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Latino? I think those you call "latino" are , at least, as much native american as Sitting Bull was. Descendants of the Incas or Mayas have same right than the USA indians.

Mexican does not equal native american. Come on, man. --97.125.124.136 (talk) 00:58, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually Mexican does equal native american - what would you have it equal? Native African? Native European? Last time I checked Mexico was in the Americas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.151.127.142 (talk) 15:08, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Prevalent in Europeans?! Tell me one single person in the whole Europe practising such a thing in the last 5000 years! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.49.67.179 (talk) 01:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Topic

Shouldn't this article be merged with Artificial Cranial Deformation, seeing as they're the exact same topic?143.236.35.214 (talk) 23:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Came here to say just that. -LlywelynII (talk) 19:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, me too. Except the other article is actually at Artificial cranial deformation 192.104.39.2 (talk) 17:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance Requested

I am hoping that this page can be expanded upon with respect to specific physical changes that occur to the cranium and brain etc. There is a lot of pseudo-junk-scientific statements relating to these skulls and there formation, particularly alien explanations ([2]. It would be idyllic to have this page discuss not just the social reasoning behind cranial manipulation but also the physiological effects. Thank-you. --Quasistellar (talk) 06:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I, too, came to this article hoping to find discussion of the effects upon the brain of this practice. I suspect that brain plasticity might mean that there may not be significant deleterious effects -- also, if there were, would the practice have continued? But I would like something definite.--Jrm2007 (talk) 04:43, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The most recent study I'm familiar with, Klaus Hendricksen et. al. (2007), suggests that the consequent enlargement of the submedular arch, possible as much as 400%, results in a sphigmoidal capacity exceeding that of any earth creature thousandsfold. The most likely use would be transfinite communication with a "mother" brain in the region of Sirius. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.232.191.16 (talk) 14:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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