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Sale lifespans are all incorrect, no?

Is this something other than the time between on-sale and discontinued?

Just to pick one - iPhone 11, on sale September 20, 2019 and discontinued September 7, 2022 is not an “amount of time the device was sold” of 8 months. It’s nearly 3 years.

They look like they may be the gap between end of sale and end of support (or today, if still supported), but that’s not “amount of time the device was sold”.

Having a sub-heading of Support under a broader heading of Support is also very confusing.

If the column is supposed to be the duration of support after the device was discontinued, significant rewording is needed. 24.154.253.239 (talk) 17:03, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the hint! Reason for awkward naming: Some modifiers obviously weren't able to count and therefore weren't able to understand what they are reading and consequently mismodified the table (Their teachers must have told them a long time ago for several times that one day this would happen to them if they do not make their homework properly! ;-). -- ZH8000 (talk) 20:18, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ZH8000, that's better.

I'm in turn removing the "min" column. Currently-supported phones can't have a "max" lifespan, it's the lifespan-to-date; so removing "min" and renaming "max" to "lifespan" is more accurate. The "min" column's long header also makes the table 225px wider on large displays, and up to 328px taller on small displays since it increases text wrapping in all columns; this'll also compound the height increase of adding future models. ZH8000, you created the table, do you mind?

Also made a number of formatting improvements. DFlhb (talk) 21:04, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DFlhb (talk · contribs) Actually, I don't agree. I thought this is so obvious that I didn't explain it explicitly. Let me rehearse:

maximal support lifespan = current or ended date - released date
minimal support lifespan = current or ended date - discontinued date

And since 'discontinued' means that you can not buy it in the store anymore, and the discontinued date vary from model to model, it has to be made explicit also.

I will therefore revert your changes including the format changes, you will have to re-apply them afterwords. Sorry.

PS: If there are formatting problems you should eventually switch you browser ;-) -- ZH8000 (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I know what means, no need to explain. But a maximum that changes every day is no maximum. Still, don't mind keeping the column.

My browser's perfectly fine. I fixed inaccuracies ("June 9, 2008", "late, single update: January 23, 2023", iPhone 12 being colored blue like the iPhone 12 Mini), fixed incorrect links (when two phones are covered by one article, both names should be piped, not just the first name), prevented incorrect text-wrapping (e.g. "12 Mini", "14 Plus" must never wrap), and removed confusing parentheses for "final OS" (which implies that the SE got only iOS 12.4.1, and the iPhone 6 got 12.5.7). No time to fix them again; someone else can do it if they're bothered. DFlhb (talk) 23:13, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Total sales

We currently use a 2018 statistic in the lede for total sales. If we can update it lets keep it, but if we dont have a newer number, maybe we should remove it is out of date? Jtbobwaysf (talk) 11:12, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apple stopped reporting iPhone unit sales in 2018, so there's never going to be an accurate total we can put here – there are just estimates on various sites, they vary quite widely, and there's little if any detail on methodology for their guesses. Therefore, it's the 2018 figure or nothing. Personally, I'm happy with the 2018 figure, perhaps with a note as to why it's old, but wouldn't care if you removed it entirely. — Trey Maturin™ 11:25, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Call Steve Job as the coo-founder, not then ceo. This format is incredibly pretentious. D G Mü (talk) 23:27, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The lead says "The first-generation iPhone was announced by then-Apple CEO Steve Jobs on January 9, 2007" which is correct. Steve Wozniak has not been actively involved at Apple since 1985.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:53, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We could remove "then-" per MOS:PERSONOROFFICE, but I personally like the added information it provides, as long as it's not too repetitive (which it's not here). –CWenger (^ • @) 15:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Change 2004 in info box link text to 2024. Obvious typographical mistake. The actual year of the linked document is mentioned in the title of the document. 209.35.90.251 (talk) 00:54, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Aoidh (talk) 01:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Need an iphone user to take a quick look at this

We are having difficulty finding another iphone user with an iphone bigger than the smaller iphone SE 2020 that I have. Most iphones are bigger. We only need a few minutes of your time for a {{sticky header}} test. If you have an iphone please have a look at this test:

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Request for comment from other iphone users

Specifically: Please tell us if sticky table headers work without problems in these sandboxes:

Current styles: User:Timeshifter/Sandbox244#Test sticky-header (sortable)
Proposed styles: User:Timeshifter/Sandbox243#Test sticky-header (sortable)

It should only take a minute to look at the table in that section. And another minute to report what you are seeing at the Village Pump. Please report there, and also tell us what iphone model you have. Thanks. --Timeshifter (talk) 01:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

আইফোন 2401:1900:8032:428C:0:0:0:1 (talk) 23:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]