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Mistake in the number of parole attempts?

I found this while reading under the Parole subtitle: Chapman has been denied parole five times, by a three-member board, in closed hearings lasting less than an hour, in October 2000, October 2002, October 2004, October 2006, August 2008, and February 2010. So, has he been denied five or six times??? 190.234.253.3 (talk) 05:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)Arturo[reply]

Additionally, why is he still in the jail though he was sentenced to 20 year to life and he was imprisoned in 1981? I heard that he was sentenced to life imprisonment with chances to request parole after 20 year imprisonment. It should be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:320:3106:1005:3163:F248:6EDB:81C3 (talk) 08:38, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
20 years to life does not automatically mean you will be released after 20 years. 20 years is the absolute minimum you will serve and you may never be released unless the parole board finds this is appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.217.207 (talk) 08:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Article name

Isn't he more known as just Mark Chapman rather than his full name Mark David Chapman? DrKilleMoff (talk) 01:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.47.191 (talk) 05:25, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Poorly-written "motive"

How is idolization of a fictional character a motive for murder? Holden Caulfield doesn't kill anyone and describes himself as a pacifist and a coward throughout the novel. This is ridiculous, like the old idea that women would get corrupted by reading Gothic novels in their closets -- idolization of Holden is more of a idiosyncrasy of MDC's, not a motive for murder that has encyclopedic tone. I'll fix this myself if no one has any objections. --Robert Burns 2602:A2:68DD:BA00:9934:2851:48D0:F2C (talk) 21:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki is based on Reliable Sources, not your opinion, which is neither desired nor should have been posted - see WP:SOAPBOX. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.47.191 (talk) 05:23, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really care about this article. I'm just writing to say that your response could have been less hostile. 96.32.155.15 (talk) 02:57, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

media appearances. minor correction suggestion.

Jones asked Chapman to tell his story for Mugshots, a CourtTV program in 2000, with his first parole hearing approaching. Chapman refused to go on camera but consented to tell his story in a series of audiotapes.[citation needed]

since Jack Jones is mentioned in the previous paragraph, when his name comes up again in the article, just using his last name, makes that section extremely unclear. this is because other individuals are mentioned in the article between the first mention and the second. It would be much clearer and easier to read to you edit it to use the first and last name "jack jones". I would do it myself but I don't have a wikipedia account and I don't want to cause any trouble.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.189.54.6 (talk) 11:51, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unwitting friend in Atlanta

It seems unnecessary to name this person per WP:BLPNAMES, WP:UNDUE and also WP:NOTEVERYTHING. They are only mentioned by name once in the article and knowing how they are doesn't really seem to improving the reader's understanding of the article. The name mention also appears to becausing them some undue stress per WP:THQ#Article on Mark David Chapman. If at some point more reliably sourced content about this person's relationship to Chapman is added to the article that does improve the reader's understanding of Chapman, then perhaps the name could be re-added. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:01, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mark David Chapman's REAL motive

So while he has given out conflicting motives, Chapman has recently stated he only wanted self-glory and fame. Indeed, I can't find any reference to a desire to kill a 'phony' in his 2020 parole transcript for instance, or any other transcripts. - Anonymous Wikipedian

  • Mark David Chapman is not a reliable source, and he only becomes less reliable as time passes. James R. Gaines spent dozens of hours in conversation with Chapman, and thus, should have been able to ascertain fact from fiction, or "likely" from "unlikely". Gaines does not believe that "self-glory" was the motive. Chapman's actions and behavior following the murder do not suggest that he sought attention. It speaks volumes that he refused to speak to the media for several years. Virtually everyone can agree that Chapman's motive was related to his obsession with Catcher in the Rye and so that's all that Wikipedia states. ili (talk) 08:14, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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