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Yahya Sinwar in 2011
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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

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  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

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Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

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May 28

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Namibia Genocide

Article: Herero and Namaqua genocide (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The German government officially recognizes the colonial-era Herero and Namaqua genocide, and offers financial reparations to the survivors. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNN, Washington Post, DW
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: It's a lengthy article, but for such a long article it's actually fairly close to ITN quality. Hopefully this nomination and today's events will bring eyes to the article to get it fixed up. NorthernFalcon (talk) 16:05, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Conditonal support The update needs to be much longer than the 1 line addition to the lead that isn't even expanded in the main text. Someone with knowledge about the genocide would also need to give the okay that the information is correct, as it mostly relies on book references so I can't fact-check the information. I think this can be differentiated from Joe Biden recognising the Armenian Genocide from a month ago, which didn't get posted, as Germany was at least involved in the region (German Empire -> Weimar Republic -> Federal Republic of Germany (Today)), and because there's a €1.1 billion reparation so it's not just politicians talking. Uses x (talkcontribs) 16:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 27

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  • In Kebbi State, Nigeria, 45 people are found dead following the sinking of a boat yesterday. More than 100 others are still missing. (Al Jazeera)
  • A boat crash off the coast of Florida leaves two dead. Eight others have been rescued. The boat had departed from Cuba on May 23. (WPLG-TV)

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RD: Kees de Jager

Article: Kees de Jager (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Algemeen Dagblad (in Dutch)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Dutch astronomer, recently turned 100. Some citation work needed, which I will get on to today, but broadly looks OK.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Foster Friess

Article: Foster Friess (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Buckrail
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Prominent donor to the Republican Party in the US. Looks like a comprehensive and well-cited article already, so probably not much work needed on this one.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:37, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Carla Fracci

Article: Carla Fracci (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: One of the leading ballerinas of the 20th century. There was some article, especially a gorgeous image, and since yesterday, we have worked on it. I just ran into an edit conflict so have time to nominate. More detail will come I bet, and please help. Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Harvey Schlossberg

Article: Harvey Schlossberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only reported today (May 27); died on May 21. —Bloom6132 (talk) 02:28, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Llew Smith

Article: Llew Smith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Wales MP, already expanded significantly by me in April 2020. PotentPotables (talk) 14:54, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Kay Lahusen

Article: Kay Lahusen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Lesbian activist and photographer. Needs a few refs which obits should supply, will work on this today. Innisfree987 (talk) 12:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) San Jose shooting

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: 2021 San Jose shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the United States, a mass shooting in San Jose, California, leaves 10 people dead. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the United States, a mass shooting in San Jose, California, leaves 10 people dead, including the perpetrator.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In the United States, a mass shooting at a rail yard in San Jose, California, leaves 10 people dead.
News source(s): BBC, CNN, Guardian, NYT, Reuters, USA Today, WaPo
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Deadliest mass shooting to ever affect the San Francisco Bay AreaAllegedlyHuman (talk) 02:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Bay Area has a population of 7.75 million, larger than many nations, and yet has never had a shooting of this scale until two days ago. This is certainly not "routine". AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:48, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
An area of 7.75 million is not bigger than most countries. Claiming to be the biggest in an area (without even saying it's the biggest ever in the state) does not make it ITN worthy. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:53, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Read again: I said many, not most (although it's close either way). AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is 'routine' because it took place in a country with extremely poor public safety, comparable to countries that are currently in war, with hundreds of similar incidents per year. You can always find something to claim it's deadliest (e.g. deadliest in a city, deadliest in an area, deadliest in a neighbourhood populated by an ethnic group, deadliest on a Wednesday, deadliest during a weekend, deadliest using a handgun etc.) but that's implausible when you see the big picture, that is, shootings are all over the United States on a daily basis.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If a warzone underwent a record death toll, I, for one, would support the nomination. "Deaths" is not as obscure or trivial of a metric as you are making it seem for a mass shooting. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Take it to AFD, then, if it's truly non-notable, and do this encyclopedia a service. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:48, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The AFD will be populated with loads of Americans and kept. Which is the wrong outcome, but the one that would occur, because Wikipedia suffers from massive recentism issues. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:53, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"When I like the result, it's consensus. When I don't, it's American bias." AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, that's my opinion of many articles about recent events. It just happens that American shootings seem to be the ones coming up on ITNC all the time. I never mentioned American bias, I mentioned a problem with recentism. Go check how many non-US ITN items I've opposed before claiming that I just scream "American bias". Joseph2302 (talk) 08:05, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The first sentence of your comment was "The AFD will be populated with loads of Americans and kept", not "The AFD will be populated with loads of recentists and kept." The comment implies that someone's nationality would compel them to support inclusion of every article about things happening in their country, and that it would be impossible for them to a fair arbiter of notability or non-notability (read: bias). I don't care if you also happen to feel strongly about Malagasy bias or Icelandic bias or Antarctican bias or what have you, and I didn't say anywhere that opposing stuff in the USA was a recurring thing for you (I'm really not that inclined to check one way or the other). AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Where did you get the notion this was an act of domestic violence? It very much is not. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:48, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Mufti Abdul Razzaq

Article: Mufti Abdul Razzaq (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Free Press Journal
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated. Subject was a notable scholar, Mufti and an activist of Indian freedom struggle. ─ The Aafī (talk) 17:52, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Eric Carle

Article: Eric Carle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT, WaPo, NPR
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American designer and children's book writer, author of The Very Hungry Caterpillar, dies at age 91. Davey2116 (talk) 23:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support he was a very influential author, also wrote "Brown Bear, Brown Bear, what do you see?"

(Posted) RD: H. S. Doreswamy

Article: H. S. Doreswamy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian civil rights activist. News just breaking. Article is almost ready for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 16:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Milieudefensie et al v Royal Dutch Shell

Article: Milieudefensie et al v Royal Dutch Shell (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In a landmark case, the district court of The Hague has ordered Royal Dutch Shell to cut its global carbon emissions by 45% by the end of 2030. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, Wall Street Journal
Credits:
  • Comment: This is the first time a big oil company is ordered by a court to cut its carbon emissions. The Guardian calls it a landmark ruling and the Wall Street Journal argues it could set a precedent for other jurisdictions. Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 16:04, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments This does seem like a case that could set a major precedent, and I'm seeing coverage in plenty of major outlets (Bloomberg, NPR, CNN, etc.), but it's also a three-sentence article. I understand nominating things at ITN/C to help get the article developed, but this one needs a lot of development; based on importance, I would be inclined to support based on what I've seen of the story if the article is greatly expanded.. Also, I would take "compared to 2019 levels" out of the blurb; I get that it's theoretically notable, but IMO, not enough to take up space on the main page. -- Kicking222 (talk) 18:13, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have expanded it to the point that it would be minimum size for main page. --Masem (t) 18:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose It's great news and thanks to Masem it has enough information, but Royal Dutch Shell have said they're likely to appeal the decision, so ultimately it's a district court ordering something which might end up just being overturned. [Irish Independent] Uses x (talkcontribs) 19:22, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article is up to date, sufficiently detailed and referenced (though a bit short), and the story is in reliable news sources now. Since the story is in the news now, it is most appropriate to post it now. What may or may not happen at future times regarding appeals and overturning is irrelevant as news sources are covering the verdict now. --Jayron32 19:59, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I am pretty sure that this will be overturned on appeal but it is being reported on in a lot of media, including here in Germany, making it ITN worthy. I did tag one statement as needing a secondary source though. Regards SoWhy 20:07, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The article is in good quality, and it's an interesting precedent which has received plenty of coverage. Of course, this case will drag on for years, but that's a different story. KittenKlub (talk) 20:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support this is an encyclopedic article, not a trash overhyped piece of pulp. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose misleading. The claim "contributing about 1% to global emissions" is cited to the Guardian which itself cites nothing but "court claims". Here is an actual fact: Shell is the 9th largest producer of greenhouse gas emissions when you factor in Scope 3 greenhouse gas emissions which factors in other parties burning oil produced by shell. That's right. [1] KLM burning oil? That's counted against shell. Dutch energy burning oil? That's counted against shell. Climate change is real, it is a serious threat to human health and food security, but this lawsuit is bullshit and the target article is propaganda. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:23, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Interesting article. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:32, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support As someone who has recently published two peer-reviewed manuscripts on topics from energy economics, I consider this verdict of strategic significance in relation to efficient energy consumption. This doesn't set merely a precedent that may be followed by other judiciaries but it impacts the way energy consumption will be optimised in the future.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support an important case, not least because it includes all of their suppliers in this. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:11, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:30, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posting. --Tone 09:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose post-posting: I understand the political significance highlighted by the support votes above. However, there is virtually no legal significance to this at all. As Judiciary of the Netherlands explains, this is a first-instance decision which is already under appeal. Given the issues and money involved, it's almost certain to end up in the Supreme Court of the Netherlands and probably also the European Court of Human Rights. It'll be literally years before we can tell whether this is genuinely significant. —Brigade Piron (talk) 11:15, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep in mind that the same Dutch judicial system upheld similar action taken against the country's gov't in State of the Netherlands v. Urgenda Foundation a few years back to undertake actions to meet climate change goals, so there's a strong chance it will survive a challenge. I would agree that if this was a case originating out of a US federal district court, where there was little higher level action at SCOTUS, it probably would not have had similar news-shattering events. --Masem (t) 13:14, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • All that may be true, but it is also irrelevant. It is in the news now, which is why we post it now. Everyone has reasons why they find a story significant or important to themselves, but we rely on reliable sources at Wikipedia, not personal feelings or preferences. Sources are covering this story now, and it doesn't really matter what the story is, just that reliable sources are treating it as a big deal, which is why it is appropriate to post. --Jayron32 13:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-post support Not every blurb is limited to eradicating cancer ... or completely solving global warming. Quality new page that's prominently in the news works for me (not to be confused with a WP:NOTDIARY update of a celebrity).—Bagumba (talk) 11:39, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • PP Comment – The complexity of this issue, and its possible transitoriness, make it quite dubious as a blurb. – Sca (talk) 13:32, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Indeed. I suspect it's nowhere near as significant as this discussion seems to think it is, but hey ho...  — Amakuru (talk) 13:55, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's life in the big city. (But hey, I learned that transitoriness is actually a word.)Sca (talk) 14:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Another comment - why is there a picture of Shell's headquarters attached to this story? I thought images were included to assist readers in understanding a story, but that picture of a building has very little to do with the court ruling or its ramifications. We'd rather just stick with the pic of the Samoan PM-elect, which at least is relevant to its story.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Is that the royal we? ;-) – Sca (talk) 13:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

X-Press Pearl

Article: X-Press Pearl (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Singaporean container ship X-Press Pearl explodes while anchored in Colombo Port, causing an oil spill in the sea around Sri Lanka. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera
Credits:

RD: Samuel E. Wright

Article: Samuel E. Wright (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Aged 74. Voiced Sebastian the crab in The Little Mermaid. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 10:57, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclone Yaas

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Article: Cyclone Yaas (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Cyclone Yaas impacts Odisha and West Bengal in East India, forcing the evacuation of more than a million people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Cyclone Yaas impacts Odisha and West Bengal in Eastern India, directly affecting more than ten million people.
Alternative blurb II: Cyclone Yaas causes storm surge of 2 m (6.6 ft) above astronomical tide level and breach embankments leading to flood in villages and towns in Purba Medinipur and South 24 Parganas district of West Bengal.
News source(s): The Guardian, IMD, Hindustan Times, Free Press Journal, AP
Credits:

Article updated

  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  11:42, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait While it has caused a large number of evacuations, if there are minimal deaths, this likely will not be appropriate to post for ITN. --Masem (t) 12:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not saying that number of deaths won't make it, but it is this time of year that storms will threaten several parts of the world and will do damage, but we simply don't have room to post all landfall-making, damage-dealing storms with few-to-no death counts, even if it causes temporary displace of millions of people. I'm only saying wait here because the landfall was this morning so full impact is not yet known. --Masem (t) 13:33, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, I understand that everything can't be included in the ITN. But, the degree of damage is very high, as the areas got flooded (it didn't even happen during the Super cyclone last year) due to high tide at the time of landfall.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  14:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Very high impact, potential/likely further impact, number of deaths already. Article is decent. Melmann 13:27, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I did my best to find all the reported deaths from Yaas and I got 7. When did you get the three more, @ArnabSaha:? You are welcome to edit the article to reflect the latest informations about the impact of Yaas. I'm currently on my wikibreak, but I'll do my best to update the article. Thanks and stay safe, 🌀HurricaneParrot🐦 13:33, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The MV X-Press Pearl, a container ship sailing with a Singaporean flag and carrying cosmetics and chemicals, including 25 tonnes of nitric acid, catches fire off the coast of Sri Lanka after an explosion was detected onboard. Rescuers evacuated all crew from the ship and reported that two people were injured. (Reuters)

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(Posted) RD: Eilat Mazar

Article: Eilat Mazar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Haaretz; The Times of Israel
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 03:15, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: John Warner

Article: John Warner (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN, Washington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: U.S. Senator from Virginia (1979–2009). There are a few things which need proper citation, but generally looks decent. rawmustard (talk) 12:53, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ben Kruger

Article: Ben Kruger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Jacaranda FM
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South African actor, died of COVID-19. Needs a bit of work and sourcing I would guess. Will work on it today.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Tarcisio Burgnich

Article: Tarcisio Burgnich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Malta Independent
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian footballer. Looks in OK condition already to me.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:16, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Anthony Lazzaro (university administrator)

Article: Anthony Lazzaro (university administrator) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Times; University of Southern California
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 25); died on May 20. —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Mark York

Article: Mark York (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Independent NME
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Actor Mark York also known as Marcus A. York, known for his role on the US The Office. Article was recently created since one did not exist before but coverage generated from his death have made him notable enough for a standalone article.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 15:06, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have a concern that of the sources present in the article only one predates his death (the People source). Otherwise, we're looking at a BLP1E issue here which is a problem both from a notability standpoint and RD posting. I'd recommend trying to find a few more sources pre-dating the death to show he was notable before this point. --Masem (t) 15:22, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Question: Are people only allowed to become notable if there is writing about them before they die? How do you square that with the existence of articles like Vincent van Gogh where, most certainly, there is not enough source text about his life written before he died. Why are reliable sources written after a person's death not suitable for citing in an article? --Jayron32 15:45, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Obviously for people that lived well before the existence of mass media, there's different standards (and of course, people have written at length about Van Gogh well after his death). But for an actor who's career was 100% within the realm of widespread Internet coverage, to have almost no coverage until their death indicates that they were more a minor actor, only getting attention due to death of the actor of a character from a popular show. I'd love to be proven wrong in terms of more sources that existed while the Office was being filmed, for example, but if we're just building an article off obits, even semi-lengthy ones, that's a general BLP1e issue. --Masem (t) 16:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm curious as to why you are invoking WP:BLP1E here; surely his various acting roles count as multiple events for which he is notable. Also, where can I read about this Wikipedia policy or guideline that says for people who died after the internet existed, we're not allowed to use sources written after their death. I would like to make sure I am following this from now on... --Jayron32 16:43, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    The 1E is his death here. Acting in small roles are not significant events if they drew no coverage at the time of their broadcast and only attention at the point of death - otherwise any credited actor in any work would be immediately notable and that's not something our notability guidelines allow. --Masem (t) 17:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    But he's not notable for dying. He's notable for acting. The 1E is not his death. Furthermore, you still haven't told me where I can read about this rule that sources published after a persons death during the internet age can't be used. I would really like to read this. --Jayron32 20:01, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I think WP:BASIC or WP:ENT would be more appropriate, but the result is the same. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:05, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for comment, in digging around only managed to find one other RS besides the People magazine one, [5], I'll have a look to see if I can find anything in local newspapers though.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 16:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment www.google.com/search?q=%22Mark+York%22+before%3A2021 - can't find anything. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:39, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Masem: I managed to find these 3 clippings in local papers [6][7][8]. These 3 + the other 2 previously mentioned, what are your thoughts? Regards  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 16:50, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Local sources would be fine, not best, but better than nothing. --Masem (t) 17:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I can't find anything with a DuckDuckGo search either. Site note: all the news sites are just re-writing his obituary in their own words, so they should be treated as primary sources. Uses x (talkcontribs) 15:53, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    For searches, the subject also was known as Marcus A. York or Mark A. York (was torn which article title to put as mostly credited as Marcus A. York but obituaries only went with "Mark York" so chose the latter) His IMdb for example is under that name [9]. Pre 2021 I have found two articles [10][11]  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 16:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I think people don’t realize that even internet-age newspaper articles will not always appear in a Google search. There’s a whole other world of material available in newspaper databases that you can access via libraries. I found one Dayton newspaper article about him from as far back as 2003. Zagalejo (talk) 12:35, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Blatant plug time: Any registered Wiki editor can apply for a |Wikipedia Library Card, and besides immediate access to other sources, you can then apply to get access via your Wikimedia account to newspapers.com. It is not full 100% access there (you can search but you can't necessarily read all but you can at least search and see a clip image (sufficient to see the ones that Spy-cicle pointed out). --Masem (t) 14:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Now at AfD, so ineligible until that is resolved. P-K3 (talk) 01:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    The AfD was marked as speedily keep. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 14:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I've withdrawn the AFD due to the additions of the newspapers expanding his advocacy work. The article is now fully cited, and has a good amount of information. Non-primary sources would be preferable for his personal life, but there's absolutely no reason to doubt that info. Uses x (talkcontribs) 09:04, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Even without the recent additions, I think this would have been fine. Decent coverage before death and a broad, if short, set of credits. A well composed BLP.130.233.213.199 (talk) 13:04, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose York has not "received significant coverage in multiple published" sources (WP:BASIC), nor has he "had significant roles in multiple notable" works (WP:ENT). I know some like to ignore the word "significant" to force through these borderline cases, but I believe it's there for a reason. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:16, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @GreatCaesarsGhost: The AfD was speedy kept.—Bagumba (talk) 13:58, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    It was withdrawn with modest comments. That doesn't mean anything. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:44, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. It's quite short, but has enough I think for ITN. Marking as ready.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:58, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 22:58, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Malaysia train collision

Article: 2021 Kelana Jaya LRT collision (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Rail accident happened in Malaysia involving 2 Bombardier Innovia Metro train (Post)
News source(s): ChannelNewsAsia, The Sun Daily
Credits:
@Sca: What does the last part of your sentence mean? (the one with the <small> tag? I'm not nominating this. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:31, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my mistake! – Sca (talk) 18:04, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I hope this mistake isn't an indication of something else.... :) --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 18:51, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the nominator. (Diff of addition). Uses x (talkcontribs) 16:59, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Stuart Ross Taylor

Article: Stuart Ross Taylor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ANU
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Count Iblis (talk) 00:40, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Mali coup d'état

Article: 2021 Malian coup d'état (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Malian army arrests the president, prime minister and the defence minister after a government personnel reshuffle. (Post)
News source(s): Onet.pl from PAP & Reuters, The Guardian, France24, AP, BBC, Reuters
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Mali is no stranger to political unrest but the army arresting 3 most politically important people is world news even when in the most turbulent of states. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:24, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What article? AllegedlyHuman (talk) 01:05, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That would seem to imply that coups of this sort are not unusual in Mali. – Sca (talk) 13:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Constitutional Crisis in Samoa

Article: 2021 Samoan constitutional crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ After the Supreme Court of Samoa declares Naomi Mataʻafa the prime minister following a close election, previous prime minister Tuilaepa Aiono Sailele Malielegaoi locks her and her party out of parliament and refuses to concede power, sparking a constitutional crisis. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Following the Supreme Court's decision to declare Naomi Mataʻafa as prime minister, former prime minister Tuilaepa Aiono Sailele Malielegaoi refuses to concede power and locks the FAST Party out of parliament, sparking a constitutional crisis
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former Samoan prime minister Tuilaepa Aiono Sailele Malielegaoi refuses to concede power to Naomi Mataʻafa and the FAST Party, creating a constitutional crisis
Alternative blurb III: ​ A makeshift ceremony is held to swear in Naomi Mataʻafa as Prime Minister of Samoa after former PM Tuilaepa Aiono Sailele Malielegaoi locks her and her party out of parliament.
News source(s): NPR, BBC, CNN, Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: An update to a blurb that's rolled off, the former Prime Minister of Samoa has refused to hand over power. NorthernFalcon (talk) 18:10, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Soon to be a major motion picture. – Sca (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It would be best to carry on discussions of errors in the blurb at WP:ERRORS, the venue designed to discuss errors. They tend to get handled faster there. --Jayron32 20:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Jayron32: The error was already fixed. The question I posed was whether the blurb needed expansion after its shortening, which is not an error, per se. But sure, there might be less eyes here for a topic already posted. Its a gray area where it belongs.—Bagumba (talk) 00:46, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Max Mosley

Article: Max Mosley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Independent BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: President of the FIA and son of Oswald Mosley  The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 14:12, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) COVID-19 pandemic in India

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Article: COVID-19 pandemic in India (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Deaths in India due to COVID-19 crosses 300,000. (Post)
Alternative blurb: India becomes the third country to cross 300,000 deaths due to COVID-19.
Alternative blurb II: ​ 100,000 fatalities due to COVID-19 in India in the past 26 days takes India past 300,000 COVID-19 deaths in total.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Amidst a fall in new daily COVID-19 cases, India's death toll due to COVID-19 crosses 300,000.
News source(s): TOI, BBC, France24, Al Jazeera, CNN
Credits:
 DTM (talk) 13:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose posting the third country to cross an arbitrary figure; it's no longer significant if that's the case. Given India's large population it's also less signficant than in other countries as it's a smaller percentage. Furthermore, such figures are very inaccurate as many deaths due to covid are likely unidentified. 331dot (talk) 13:27, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the pandemic is on ongoing, and developments in individual countries aren't ITN worthy. Especially when they're not the first country to do it. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose If, and I mean if, they surpass the United States in total COVID cases, THEN we can start talking about putting it as a blurb. Right now though? Not so much... Fakescientist8000 (talk) 14:21, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Arbitrary figure. It's a big country so it's going to get big numbers. It's already covered in Ongoing, as well. Uses x (talkcontribs) 15:23, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Charles Boutin

Article: Charles Boutin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Baltimore Sun
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mayor of Aberdeen, Maryland, and member of the Maryland House of Delegates Jon698 (talk) 21:14, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Peru mass shooting

Article: San Miguel del Ene attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least fourteen people are killed in a mass shooting in San Miguel del Ene by the Militarized Communist Party of Peru. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters, Bloomberg
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Up to 18 people were killed; the Militarized Communist Party of Peru is a faction of Shining Path. The attack has taken place just a few weeks before the upcoming general elections in Peru, on 6 June. NoonIcarus (talk) 00:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 22:42, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull This article has changed not a whit since it's very first edit/creation, and it's fallen off the news so it apparently never will. It's still a janky disaster stub, which does not even have a section for the attack itself (the tiny bits of information are hidden in Investigation). It's 99% background, narrative and reactions; there is not even a description of the attack. While I don't dispute the notability, nor the unusual aspects, the article is completely uninformative and might as well be moved to a list somewhere.130.233.213.199 (talk) 11:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Perfection is not required, and the article, which can always be improved in the ways that you notes, is sufficient for the main page. There's no need to pull it, it appears that what is known about the shooting is in the article (the number dead, who is suspected of undertaking it, and what the current state of the investigation is). Could it be improved regarding sectioning, expansion, and narrative flow? Sure it could. Are these problems insurmountable or so egregious that it shouldn't be on the main page? No. --Jayron32 12:15, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ron Hill

Article: Ron Hill (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British runner and Europpean champion. The article needs some work. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 23:59, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Paulo Mendes da Rocha

Article: Paulo Mendes da Rocha (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Folha de S. Paulo, O Globo, Business Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Brazilian architect. Arguably one the greatest architects alive (winner of the Pritzker Architecture Prize and the Mies van der Rohe Award). Unfortunately, the article is a stub with a lot of work to do. --SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 23:38, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2021 PGA Championship

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Article: 2021 PGA Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In golf, Phil Mickelson (pictured) wins the PGA Championship. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In golf, Phil Mickelson (pictured) wins the PGA Championship, making him the oldest player to win a major.
News source(s): CNN
Credits:
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Currently leading by two strokes, very likely at this point that he will win Event has now concluded. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:05, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) SC Magdeburg win EHF European League

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Article: 2020–21 EHF European League (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 2020–21 EHF European League is dominated won by German teams concludes with an all-German podium as SC Magdeburg, Füchse Berlin and Rhein-Neckar Löwen come 1st, 2nd and 3rd respectively. (Post)
Alternative blurb: SC Magdeburg beat Füchse Berlin 28-22 to win the 2020–21 EHF European League.
News source(s): Eurosport
Credits:
 Abcmaxx (talk) 22:28, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Stresa-Mottarone cable car disaster

Article: Stresa-Mottarone cable car disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: A cable car near Lake Maggiore, Italy, fell after a cable line snapped, killing 14 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Italy, 14 people are killed after a cable car near Lake Maggiore fell after a cable line snapped.
News source(s): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57219737
Credits:

Article updated

 KTC (talk) 17:41, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Ryanair Flight 4978

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Article: Ryanair Flight 4978 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Ryanair Flight 4978 (aircraft involved pictured) is forced to land at Minsk National Airport, Belarus after a false bomb alert. Journalist Raman Pratasevich is arrested by Belarussian authorities. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Belarus, journalist Raman Pratasevich is arrested by Belarussian authorities after Ryanair Flight 4978 (aircraft involved pictured) is forced to land at Minsk National Airport due to a false bomb alert.
News source(s): (BBC)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Apparent political kidnapping (my words), breach of a host of ICAO rules. Likely to be fallout from this one. Article needs development. This is explicitly not an AIRCRASH nomination, so please do not object on those grounds. It is nominated for the political aspect of the event. Mjroots (talk) 17:32, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Lorrae Desmond

Article: Lorrae Desmond (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Gold Logie winner and A Country Practice star Lorrae Desmond dead aged 91 – news.com.au, 23 May 2021
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian actress and singer whose career spanned from 1945 to 2001 – Ianblair23 (talk) 06:13, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Eruption of Mount Nyiragongo

Article: 2021 Mount Nyiragongo eruption (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Mount Nyiragongo–one of the Decade Volcanoeserupts, forcing the evacuation of Goma, DR Congo. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: While there are no reports of damage or death yet, I believe that the evacuation of a city of two million, along with Nyiragongo's status as a decade volcano, makes this blurbable regardless. That said, we may see casualties shortly. NorthernFalcon (talk) 04:46, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bob Fulton

Article: Bob Fulton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Manly legend and NRL Immortal Bob Fulton dies aged 73 – Sydney Morning Herald, 23 May 2021
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian rugby league player, coach, commentator and immortal – Ianblair23 (talk) 04:25, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) St Johnstone's double

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Article: 2021 Scottish Cup Final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
Alternative blurb: St. Johnstone win Scottish Cup, defeating Hibernian 1–0 with Shaun Rooney scoring the only goal of the game, only three months after winning 2021 Scottish League Cup Final against Livingston F.C. by the same margin and thanks to the same goalscorer. This victory cements the historic 2020–21 season, becoming the only team outside of the Old Firm and Aberdeen to win a cup double ever and by far the smallest team to do so.
News source(s): St Johnstone 1–0 Hibernian - BBC Sport, 22 May 2021
Credits:
Nominator's comments: One of the biggest minnow success in sporting history Abcmaxx (talk) 23:19, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if I have ever seen such majesty presented on ITN/C. Kicking222 (talk) 08:02, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No match writeup. No opinion if this non-ITRN item is significant. Perhaps WP:IAR piggyback with an ITNR football item, if one ends up being posted.—Bagumba (talk) 05:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • All European leagues except those in polar climates are concluding now. This one is the 11th best in Europe, and the competitions named aren't even the main ones in Scotland. If we assume each better league has a championship and a cup, there are 20 stories in football that mean more right now. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:27, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strongest possible oppose - The second and third most important competitions in Europe's 11th-best domestic league. That grandiose alt blurb has not been written with the smallest grain of neutrality either. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:27, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • no Uses x (talkcontribs) 17:35, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - good faith nomination, interesting item for football fans, but not of sufficient importance to justify an ITN listing. Article quality is also lacking, but this could be a suitable DYK. Stormy clouds (talk) 20:00, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominator comment some of these opposes are unfairly harsh. Perth has a population of 80,000 and SJ's attendances are around the 3000 mark. Considering Celtic and Rangers regularly pull in 60000 on even obscure cup games and have won almost everything; the other teams that even challenged their dominance are from large cities (Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh); this double win is a remarkable achievement, more so than when Leicester won the English Premier League. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:22, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose better suited for DYK. Interesting, but they didn't even win the league, or even get within 50 points of winning the league. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 20:27, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We have to have some limits to the football stories we post. The Scottish cups are not significant enough. P-K3 (talk) 21:11, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose whilst interesting in the UK, this doesn't have significant enough impact to be ITN worthy. These are two cup competitions, not even a league competition. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:25, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(New) RD: Syamsuddin Mahmud

Article: Syamsuddin Mahmud (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Kompas
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Governor of Aceh (1993-2000). COVID-19. Pinging recent updaters to the ITN templates: @PFHLai: Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 14:22, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Gansu ultramarathon disaster

Article: Gansu ultramarathon disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 21 ultramarathon runners die due to extreme weather while competing in Gansu, China. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 21 trail runners died due to extreme weather in an ultramarathon in Jingtai, China.
Alternative blurb II: ​ 21 trail runners, mostly professional atheletes, died due to extreme weather in an ultramarathon.
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: One of the deadliest outdoor sports accident in the history of China. --SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 23:53, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: André Ribeiro (racing driver)

Article: André Ribeiro (racing driver) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Motor Sport, Auto Sport, Racer
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Brazilian racing driver. The article is a stub and need some work. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 23:47, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Two major earthquakes

Articles: 2021 Dali earthquake (talk · history · tag) and 2021 Maduo earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Two MS 6.4 and MS 7.4 earthquakes struck Dali Perfecture and Madoi County, leaving 3 death, many injured and lots of destruction. (Post)
News source(s): [12] and [13]
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Although the casuality was not extreme, the earthquake left major emergency impact. For example, Matö County students, primarily Tibetan, are now studying in yurts on May 23. 173.68.165.114 (talk) 07:31, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD or blurb: Yuan Longping

Article: Yuan Longping (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): South China Morning Post, AP
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

(Posted) RD: Joe Beckwith

Article: Joe Beckwith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dothan Eagle; Auburn University
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 05:50, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Atletico Madrid wins La Liga

Article: 2020–21 La Liga (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Atlético Madrid wins 2020–21 La Liga. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Guardian, CNN
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The winner of La Liga is ITN/R, and unlike the Premier League, this year's La Liga was decided on the final day of the season. Unlike the nomination about Bundesliga, the La Liga article does not yet have a prose summary--although this only happened a few hours ago, so give editors a few hours to fix that. NorthernFalcon (talk) 04:37, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support La Liga is ITN/R. Furthermore, Atlético Madrid's win seems extraordinary given that the league is usually dominated by two teams (Barcelona and Real Madrid). It is Atlético's first win since 2014. signed, Pat talk 06:07, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • If Getafe won that would be extraordinary, not one of the world's richest teams, one of the failed Super League founders, a regular CL participant, the 3rd best Spanish team of all time, one that has only been relegated twice, spent only 2 seasons outside La Liga since 1934 and have finished either 1st 2nd or 3rd in the last 10 years. Abcmaxx (talk) 01:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality needs more prose e.g. a season summary section like the Premier League article has. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:40, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I'm not sure the national leagues should be in the ITN.--WEBDuB (talk) 08:55, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The event has already been determined to be ITN/R. Its notability has been assessed.AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:58, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The topic, not the event. Hardly newsworthy, this is merely routine coverage. Much more newsworthy footballing stories have been turned down. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:42, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, this specific event, La Liga. It has already been pre-determined to be newsworthy.-- P-K3 (talk) 15:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not all league are ITN/R; this one is. Being special is irrelevant. -- Kicking222 (talk) 02:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Only prose on season play is two sentences ... in the lead.—Bagumba (talk) 05:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now per all of the above; article in question has no significant prose writing about the season. I would expect a full season synopsis, covering all of the major highlights, before posting this to the main page. Consider this vote a full support after that has been done.--Jayron32 15:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Lewandowski breaks Gerd Muller's record

Article: Robert Lewandowski (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the 2020–21 Bundesliga, Robert Lewandowski breaks Gerd Müller's 49-year old record for most goals scored in one Bundesliga season. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the 2020–21 Bundesliga, Bayern Munich wins its ninth consecutive and 30th overall title, while Robert Lewandowski breaks Gerd Müller's 49-year old record for most goals scored in one Bundesliga season.
News source(s): BBC, Guardian, SI, CNN
Credits:

Nominator's comments: I know we don't usually post sporting records unless they are very significant, but Gerd Müller's 40 goals in one Bundesliga season record is a long-standing record with cultural significance in Germany, and the chase for Gerd Müller's record was covered extensively this season. We also failed to post Bayern Munich's ITN/R Bundesliga win while we were in the middle of debating whether we post blurbs at the end of the season or after they're mathematically clinched, so this might be an opportunity to pop that in as well. NorthernFalcon (talk) 04:28, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Eurovision Song Contest 2021

Article: Eurovision Song Contest 2021 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Italy, represented by Måneskin with the song "Zitti e buoni", wins the Eurovision Song Contest in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At the Eurovision Song Contest 2021 in Rotterdam, Netherlands, Italy wins with their respresentatives, Måneskin, and their song "Zitti e buoni".
News source(s): [14]
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Nominating it now so we can discuss blurb layout which is discussed each year. -- AxG /   23:13, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jorge García Carneiro

Article: Jorge García Carneiro (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tal Cual
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Venezuelan politician and governor of the Vargas state for over ten years. Died while in office. NoonIcarus (talk) 13:47, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing: Colombian protests

Article: 2021 Colombian protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): AJ, CNN, Guardian, NYT, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Despite the president's concession on 2 May, these protests have not only continued but grown in recent days; "The anger driving Colombia's protest movement isn't going away anytime soon". This event is still very much ongoing and, seeing as the article has been continually updated, deserves to be in the ongoing section. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 05:19, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Looking at the scale of the protests I think it's significant enough, and the article is decent quality. The problem is the most recent update to actual events (not reactions, etc) is only three brief and insignificant sentences for 20 May (they got removed from a football championship, and confirmation that the blockade continued). That's the only proper update since the date of the oldest blurb currently on ITN (dated 15 May), which is what the critera for 'Updated' is, so that's not currently met. Looking at the sparsity of updates I don't think it'd stay updated for long anyway, so I suggest waiting for a significant event and nominating that as a blurb instead, and seeing how it goes from there. Uses x (talkcontribs) 05:37, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Concur with Uses x. Article not having significant, consistent updates. If there is a singular event of importance, would consider a blurb. SpencerT•C 01:46, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

May 21

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

  • Health Service Executive cyberattack
    • It is revealed that documents and patient records have already been leaked online from the Irish Health Service Executive ransomware cyberattack. These files were offered by the "ContiLocker Team", believed to be related to be the "Wizard Spider" group from Eastern Europe, as samples to prove that they had confidential information. The 27 files include personal records of 12 individuals, including admissions records and laboratory results. The group claims to have stolen 700GB of unencrypted files from the Irish health service, including patient and employee information, contracts, financial statements and payroll records. (News Talk)
    • A decryption key for the hospital records has been provided to the Irish Health Service Executive. The government says that it had not paid and would not pay any ransom in exchange for the purported key. The group responsible for the cyberattack continues to threaten to sell patient data. (US News and World Report)
  • Animal welfare and rights in Germany
  • CNA Financial, the seventh-largest commercial insurer in the United States, reveals that in March 2021, it was the target of a ransomware attack and had paid $40 million to a group named Phoenix two weeks after a trove of company data was stolen, and CNA officials were locked out of their network. The CNA hackers used malware called Phoenix Locker, a variant of ransomware dubbed Hades. Hades was created by a Russian cybercrime syndicate known as Evil Corp., according to cybersecurity experts. In December 2019, the Treasury Department announced sanctions on 17 individuals and six entities linked to Evil Corp. The designation by the Treasury Department made it illegal for a U.S. company to knowingly pay a ransom to Evil Corp. (Bloomberg)(FOX Business)
  • One Catholic priest is killed and another kidnapped in an armed attack on the parish in Malunfashi, Sokoto State, in northern Nigeria. Several other people are wounded in the assault. (Fides)

Politics and elections


(Posted) RD: Usman Mansoorpuri

Article: Usman Mansoorpuri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Greater Kashmir, Roznama Sahara Urdu
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Died on 21 May 2021. National President of Jamiat Ulama-e-Hind, Noted Indian Islamic scholar. Article is not stub and I'll update once more sources are available to me. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:25, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Leader of Boko Haram dies

Article: Abubakar Shekau (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Abubakar Shekau, the leader of Boko Haram, dies after detonating a suicide vest during a battle with ISWAP insurgents. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.wsj.com/articles/boko-haram-leader-responsible-for-chibok-schoolgirl-kidnappings-dies-11621608392
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 24.28.96.202 (talk) 19:59, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. [15]Sca (talk) 17:34, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose until it's confirmed beyond a doubt. From the WaPo article: "The Nigerian military and regional forces have declared Shekau dead at least four times since 2009. After such announcements, Shekau released video messages, mocking the government while firing bullets into the air." Johndavies837 (talk) 18:27, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 21:53, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb if well known respectable people don't get blurbs, then terrorists definitely shouldn't. Oppose RD until it's actually confirmed, particularly given the comment that he's previously been incorrectly confirmed dead. I would say close this, and open or renominate once actually confirmed.... Joseph2302 (talk) 00:47, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Being well-known & respectable isn't sufficient for a blurb. Shekau is/was Africa's highest-ranking terrorist as the leader of the continent's largest & most active terrorist group. No-one here is claiming that he was a good person, but his importance in his field can't be denied. Jim Michael (talk) 16:00, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The only source currently cited on the page says The circumstances leading to the death of notorious terror group leader, Abubakar Shekau, have been disputed by various reports, with many insisting that he may in fact still be alive. The page seems to be a current BLP violation with no tags or discussion to be found.—Bagumba (talk) 07:39, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose RD is for people who are verifiably dead. Per the above observations, we should wait for a suitable number of statements from both sympathetic and antagonistic sources. Strong oppose blurb Osama bin Laden was posted because he was an internationally known, notorious, and hunted leader of a terrorist organization which perpetrated the most notable attack in a generation. It was not because he was merely the leader of Al Qeuda. I could not have told you who Shekau was before yesterday, and did not even know Boko Haram had a defined organization, and while the kidnappings were certainly brutal, they were not as unusual as the simultaneous destruction of several highrises.2001:708:20:1300:0:0:0:1650 (talk) 11:08, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - BH frequently uses very young, often female, suicide bombers - some of whom are the kids they've kidnapped, so they're also unusual. Battle of Sambisa Forest (2021) was created today. The battle is important enough to be posted, even without Shekau's death. The two large jihadist groups used to be closely allied. Jim Michael (talk) 14:28, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Klemen Tinal

Article: Klemen Tinal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio New Zealand
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Incumbent vice governor of Papua. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:41, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis

Article: 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A ceasefire is enacted during the 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis, after over 200 are killed. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A ceasefire is enacted between Israel and Hamas during the 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis, after over 200 are killed.
News source(s): AP (says 200+ dead), Reuters (says 243 dead), BBC (says 250+ dead) Guardian AlJezeera dpa NYT. – Sca (talk) 13:08, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Ceasefire has come into effect, ends the 11 day "war", as described by AP. The fact that both sides have declared victory further indicates that this round of fighting is over. starship.paint (exalt) 10:38, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support removing from ongoing and posting a blurb for the ceasefire. This is clearly a conclusion of this episode in the conflict.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:53, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question Should the truce be documented in a separate article that we can use as a target?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:20, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    No. There's not enough to say about it, and its background section would just essentially duplicate this one. Best left as the beginning of the aftermath of the main event article. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support moving from ongoing to blurb section. Article remains high quality, news sources indicate this is a significant event worth mentioning. --Jayron32 11:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait This ceasefire seems less shaky than other ceasefires have, but we should maybe give it a couple of days to be sure(r). Wouldn't want to look foolish. Encyclopedias aren't papers, timeliness can relax a bit. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:42, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Whether or not the ceasefire ends at a later date, it has been declared recently, and news sources are covering it now. Waiting would mean that the story we post is not also being covered by news stories, and the primary purpose of ITN is to provide people who visit the Wikipedia main page with a Wikipedia article that elaborates on a story they are also reading about in other articles. Should the ceasefire prove ephemeral, updating the blurb is trivial and easy. --Jayron32 11:56, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Easy update, sure, but then we're left with a blurb that announces Day 13 (or whatever) of something that was already ongoing. Or we could just restore it as Ongoing. Not quite opposed to posting fast and just staying optimistic, either. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:10, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment At least the lead should be cleaned up from present tense, "so far", "have been", etc.—Bagumba (talk) 11:51, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – pending expansion of article update – This has been by far the No. 1 RS story internationally since Thursday afternoon (U.S. time). Amazing that it hasn't been posted yet. Note that Guardian leads with "World leaders have hailed (the) ceasefire." – Sca (talk) 12:57, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • There's definitely no rush to post if there's only a one line update to talk about the ceasefire. There needs to be details about that before it can go up. --Masem (t) 13:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
10-4. Thorough coverage at NYT. – Sca (talk) 13:08, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've used Sca's NYT report to expand the article's coverage of the ceasefire to a full paragraph, using basically everything the NYT article had that was new information about the ceasefire itself (i.e. not merely recaps of the conflict). --Jayron32 14:38, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Jay. I stuck "– halted by a May 21 ceasefire –" into the lead. Does that work for you? – Sca (talk) 15:03, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
NYT describes Asqa Mosque incident Friday as "a small skirmish," and Reuters calls it "brief clashes." Seems your Twitter citation may be somewhat outdated. – Sca (talk) 13:51, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Marked attn. – Sca (talk) 22:08, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Australian climate strikes

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: School strike for climate (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Thousands of people join student-led climate strikes around Australia (Post)
News source(s): ABC News, Sydney Morning Herald, Yahoo News, BBC News
Credits:
Nominator's comments: First major climate strikes internationally since the COVID-19 pandemic JMonkey2006 (talk) 09:12, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Sunderlal Bahuguna

Article: Sunderlal Bahuguna (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: environmentalist Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:22, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Nizamuddin Asir Adrawi

Article: Nizamuddin Asir Adrawi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Baseerat Online Urdu
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian Muslim scholar and biographer. Article updated. Will expand further once more sources are available. ─ The Aafī (talk) 02:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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