Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russian history

New article: List of Soviet tank factories

List of Soviet tank factories. —Michael Z. 2007-02-06 07:59 Z

Pages needing the most work

I thought that we should make a list of pages that need more work than others. What does anyone else think? Eurohistbuff 16:04, 8 March 2007

Categories

The existing categories used to tag Russian history content are a bit of a mess. I (MP) suggest we begin our work by simply collecting what's out there in Wikispace and tagging it with the "History of Russia" category. See task one below. That will give us a good impression of what sorts of category hierarchies (temporal, geographic, national) are currently being employed. Once we are done with that, we can rationalize existing categories, e.g.,

1. History of the East Slavs
   1. History of Russia
      1. East Slavic Migrations to Rus'
         1. (etc.)
      2. Kievan Rus'
         1. Foundation of Rus'

Category:History of Russia

History of the Soviet Union

Yikes! What the heck happened to History of the Soviet Union? Wikipedia does not have such a thing as "a single article consisting of four pages". I have eliminated the misleading and broken fake TOC on that article. I strongly suggest that someone move this one to History of the Soviet Union up to 1927 and rebuild an actual summary article about the entire history of the Soviet Union (covering at least the years 1922 to 1981). —Michael Z. 2007-07-21 19:16 Z

Featured Article candidate - Bezhin Meadow

Hello, please take a look at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bezhin Meadow, for Bezhin Meadow, a 1937 Soviet film. Any assistance you can offer to help finish the article off, or with suggestions for the FAC, would be appreciated. Thanks! Lawrence § t/e 16:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup

Currently, 647 of the articles assigned to this project, or 23.2%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 18 June 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. Subsribing is easy - just add a template to your project page. If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:45, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

• The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
• The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
• A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 21:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Alexei Khvostenko

This is a newly created article and I am requesting its initial assessment. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 16:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

GA under review

Hello there, the article 122 mm howitzer M1938 (M-30) which falls under the auspices of this Wikiproject, has come under review as part of GA Sweeps and a number of problems have been identified and listed on the talk page. If these problems have not begun to be addressed by seven days from this notice, the article will be delisted from GA and will have to go through the GAN process all over again to regain its status once improvements have been made. If you have any questions, please drop me a line.--Jackyd101 (talk) 00:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for input on Caucasia

(I didn't say "request for comment" because that's a standard term at Wikipedia for a procedure for resolving article disputes.)

Wow, this project is inactive: I am the first new edit in three months. The "Caucasia" (why not Caucasus?) Project has also been inactive. I just today tried to restart it. Since this project had more participation than that one ever did, I am submitting my questions here for now.

Lately, I have edited two articles on Caucasian history, Russian-Circassian_War and Muhajir_(Caucasus). The first in particular I have massively revised (in the US English sense of 'revise'). Both these articles have big flaws in conception, namely, in their thematic coherency and also as to how they would be integrated into a systematic outline of Russian history. Both articles aim to shed light on the slaughter and expulsion of the indigenous population, at least half a million people, of the northwest Caucasus in the 1860s, and especially upon the end of the war in 1864. I think there is a strong need for this information. But Russian-Circassian_War was full of bad history at all levels of description (from detail to big picture). In my opinion, most of its flaws, aside from the factual errors at the level of detail, arise from the article itself having arisen from a Circassian nationalistic agenda. This, in my opinion, is why its focus veers between the expulsion, the general history of Circassia, and the history of neighboring parts of the Caucasus, and why the historically dubious concept of "Russian-Circassian War" was thought up -- and of course, proper English is "Russo-Circassian War". In my opinion, the intended theme of this article was really the Russian conquest of Circassia. But this conquest was not a single war. Besides, I have discovered that historians in general do not recognize an entity called the "Russo-Circassian War". That in itself is a big piece of evidence as to the intent of creating the article. Perhaps somebody thought it would be simpler and more vivid to bring up a single war than a historical process.

The following certainly occurred: Russian conquest of the Caucasus; Russian conquest of Circassia in particular; brutal Russian pacification of Circassia involving mass expulsion. My question is how to apportion discussions among articles. After massively editing and reresearching Russian-Circassian_War, I am convinced it needs to be rewritten according to a theme that is clear and is in keeping with at least what some historians recognize. I would like to make it about the Russian conquest of Circassia. But we also need articles about the Russian conquest of the rest of the Caucasus. I am fortunate to have access to nearly all the best and latest books in English from the last 15 years or so on Caucasian history.

Thanks for your help. Hurmata (talk) 06:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)