Talk:Afonso Henriques Theatre

Afonso Henriques Theatre is currently an Art and architecture good article nominee. Nominated by V.B.Speranza (talk) at 22:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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Short description: Former theatre in Guimarães, Portugal

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A fact from Afonso Henriques Theatre appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 September 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Afonso Henriques Theatre in Guimarães, Portugal, regularly performed shows and plays to aid the construction of the nearby Santos Passos Church?

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The result was: promoted by DimensionalFusion talk 12:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Afonso Henriques Theatre, in Guimarães, Portugal, regularly performed shows and plays to aid the construction of the nearby Santos Passos Church?

Source: ^[1]

Reviewed:

Moved to mainspace by V.B.Speranza (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Draft published the day of nomination, length is good, material is neutral, the hook is interesting, and no QPQ is required 🙂 For the citing of the hook and some of the citing of the article, I have to AGF because I cannot read Portuguese, but the article does not appear to read in a plagiarized manner. Before passing this DYK, there's just a few places in the article which need a citation which I've marked with a 'citation needed' tag, but otherwise, the page looks really good and was an interesting read. Cheers! Johnson524 21:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC) Johnson524 21:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnson524: Done! V.B.Speranza (talk) 22:24, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@V.B.Speranza: Passed!

Johnson524 04:27, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnson524: Two weeks passed, is there any problem with the article for this nomination to still be pending? V.B.Speranza (talk) 23:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@V.B.Speranza: No, I placed the article as passed two weeks ago, weird. Johnson524 23:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnson524: Why is it still pending then? V.B.Speranza (talk) 12:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@V.B.Speranza: It should've been moved to the preparation stage by another editor now? I'll mark this DYK

complete with no issues again, but I'm not sure it'll do anything. Sorry, Johnson524 12:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the wait, there's a long backlog for prep sets: we're still processing nominations from July DimensionalFusion (talk ▪ she/her) 12:25, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Efeméride de 22-04-1863 · Arquivo da Sociedade Martins Sarmento" [Event of 22-04-1863 - Martins Sarmento Society Archive]. csarmento.uminho.pt (in Portuguese). Guimarães: Efeméride Vimaranense. 22 April 1863. Archived from the original on 26 March 2024. Retrieved 26 March 2024.

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Afonso Henriques Theatre/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: V.B.Speranza (talk · contribs) 22:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Shushugah (talk · contribs) 12:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I look forward to collaborating with you and reviewing this article. I generally expect all points to be responded to within 7-days and will grant an extension in most cases. I do not always check my watchlist, so ping me {{Ping|Shushugah}} when you need my attention.

Image review

Done The three images are permissibly and appropriately licensed (Public domain in Portugal/US) and suitably captioned

Sourcing

Verified the following sources:

Done Theatre burnt down.^[1]
Done In its interior the theatre had two closed cabinets, 38 boxes in three levels, 176 audience seats and 60 gallery seats.^[2]
✗ Fail However I do not understand how the above source verifies anything about its name to Afonso Henriques or the spelling orthographic variations (Afonso versus Affonso) for example. I do not speak Portuguese, but with google translate could not find it.
V.B.Speranza can you explain how this source verifies this claim?
Who is the author and publisher of this Scribd article? ^[3]

Not a formal requirement of GA review, but the following would make article easier for readers and reviewers alike.

If you use WP:FOREIGNSOURCES please specify the foreign language (e.g first source is missing it) and also provide an English translation for all of the foreign titles.
Do not duplicate website and publisher if they're the same. Keep the website as Diário da República and do not use the diariodarepublica.pt (currently it's reversed)
Nice to mark which sources are available as open-access or not, e.g Internet Archive sometimes only includes a preview.

Prose review

Done Article is well written, neutral and covers all the questions I would be interested in on a historic theatre. I do not have more to add here. Well done!

Nitpicks

~~Inconsistent spelling between theater and theater, stick with theatre which is British English.~~
~~Replace date format in of 09/11/1919 to 9 November 1919~~
Make a redirect link from Gualterianas to Guimarães § Traditions and festivities with {{R to section}} and {{R with possibilities}} inside the redirect
~~Link Decree to Decree § Portugal~~
~~More specifically target Orthographic reform to Spelling reform § Portuguese~~
Include other spelling variations in the lead, e.g Afonso vs Affonso and create redirects for them for improved SEO on Google/findability

Drive-by comment: the lead here is really short, can you add some more of a summary of the article here? -- asilvering (talk) 20:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shushugah: Thank you for helping me! Could you please explain the orthographic reform problem a bit deeper? I will correct the other problems in the meantime. V.B.Speranza (talk) 18:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Shushugah: I’ve done everything you asked except the orthographic reform thing that I still have doubts about and the “Make a redirect link from Gualterianas to Guimarães § Traditions and festivities with R to section and R with possibilities inside the redirect” as I don’t know how to do it… I hope to hear from you soon so you can help me fix these issues. V.B.Speranza (talk) 23:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved your comments here, in order to keep it sequential. I tagged you in source section to inquire about specific source verification. I see you expanded the lede and made a number of improvements. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shushugah: I’ve fixed the problems, I don’t think it’s necessary to touch the Gualterianas missing article, as I will create that article in the next week or so. V.B.Speranza (talk) 15:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

V.B.Speranza you did not respond to some of my comments, for example about sourcing. I want to draw your attention to this potential failed verification. You have the following text: and was baptized with the name of Portugal's first king, Afonso Henriques, making official the name Theatro Dom Affonso Henriques, later modified due to various orthographic reforms. which is not verified by the source.^[2] If I misunderstood it, no problem but I asked twice and you didn’t acknowledge the issue. Can you explain where in the text it is mentioned. Additionally, I asked about what the author, title and publisher of Scribd.com link. While Scribd is the web host of the text, I cannot even tell what kind of document it is. Is it a blog piece, a journalistic article, a Master’s thesis etc… Again, while not explicitly necessary, having the English translation of sources, authors, publisher would make it easier to do source verification for non Portuguese speakers. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:09, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shushugah: I added the language and translated article to all sources… the name question is simple to answer, I used that source to show that it was written a different way back then. The Scribd.com article seems to be a part of another bigger article that I unfortunately can’t find anywhere else… if you need anything else I’ll be glad to help! V.B.Speranza (talk) 21:25, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shushugah: I am waiting for feedback so i can fix any problem still persisting. V.B.Speranza (talk) 19:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Efeméride de 18-01-1841 · Arquivo da Sociedade Martins Sarmento". csarmento.uminho.pt. Archived from the original on 17 July 2024. Retrieved 17 July 2024.
^ ^a ^b Sousa Bastos, Antonio (1908). Diccionario do theatro portuguez (in Portuguese). Robarts - University of Toronto. Lisboa Imprensa Libanio da Silva. p. 331.
^ "125 Anos Nicolinas | PDF | Faculdade". Scribd. Retrieved 2024-10-05.

[1] "Efeméride de 22-04-1863 · Arquivo da Sociedade Martins Sarmento" [Event of 22-04-1863 - Martins Sarmento Society Archive]. csarmento.uminho.pt (in Portuguese). Guimarães: Efeméride Vimaranense. 22 April 1863. Archived from the original on 26 March 2024. Retrieved 26 March 2024.

[2] "Efeméride de 18-01-1841 · Arquivo da Sociedade Martins Sarmento". csarmento.uminho.pt. Archived from the original on 17 July 2024. Retrieved 17 July 2024.

[alfonso-3] Sousa Bastos, Antonio (1908). Diccionario do theatro portuguez (in Portuguese). Robarts - University of Toronto. Lisboa Imprensa Libanio da Silva. p. 331.

[4] "125 Anos Nicolinas | PDF | Faculdade". Scribd. Retrieved 2024-10-05.

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