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Swami Satchidananda's integral yoga

This page says "not to be confused with Swami Satchidananda's integral yoga" - yet, integral yoga is linked from the Swami_Satchidananda wiki page...???

category edit

Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet category edit -

"The following passage regarding has been deleted due to its non-NPOV (non-neutral) quality.

This claim is rejected by all other students of Integral Yoga, who, among other things, point to the fact that Sri Aurobindo and Mother advocated the finding of the guru within one's own heart. Moreover, she plays a numbers game akin to a Mississippi Riverboat Gambler just out of New Orleans with a fresh deck of marked cards, for with a slight of hand shuffle PNB deals from her own marked deck of occult playing cards and takes bets in a game of numerology in which she always comes out on top!!!"

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What is the difference between Integral and Supramental Yoga? Did Sri Aurobindo teach two paths of Yoga which are completely unrelated? if not, then the articles should be merged. Sfacets 23:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both terms are used and mean the same thing. And although Sri Aurobindo did occaisonally refer to "Supramental Yoga" - see http://intyoga.online.fr/draftpaz.htm - he much more frequently used the term "Integral Yoga". So definitely the two articles should be merged. M Alan Kazlev 23:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Importance? Context?

This article lacks information for the reader new to "integral yoga" on 1) why integral yoga is encyclopedically notable - e.g. how many people practice it? where in the world is in practiced? how seriously do its practitioners take it? 2) the context of integral yoga - e.g. what exactly its relationship to other kinds of yoga? or to hinduism?. A criticism section would be good too. At the moment, the article reads like a opaque jargon-heavy promotional guide Bwithh 04:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nightmare

The article is a complete nightmare mixing and juggling of one liners will try to restructure and edit the entire content in a whil Shrikanthv (talk) 09:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am starting a major surgery , so do not panic, please discuss here before edit warring. Shrikanthv (talk) 14:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some sources

Some usefull sources:

Robert A. McDermott (2001), Introduction, in The Essential Aurobindo
Peter Heehs (2008), The Lives of Sri Aurobindo, Columbia University Press, ISBN 0-231-14098-3
Heehs, Peter (2011). "The Kabbalah, the Philosophie Cosmique, and the Integral Yoga. A Study in Cross-Cultural Influence" (PDF). ARIES. 11 (2). Brill: 219–247.
Michael T. McLaughlin, Knowledge, Consciousness and Religious Conversion in Lonergan and Aurobindo

Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:49, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As it is now, this article is merely a summary from primary sources. Some secondary source is needed which provides a structure to his thought. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with Integral psychology (Sri Aurobindo)

Done. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:33, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Subjects are related, but the subject in itself was not called so by the Sri Aurobindo. Would it muddle the subject, bringing confusion to the Integral yoga article (as it contains various interpretation of followers, others of Sri Aurobindo), or does it enrich the material of Integral yoga, complicated as it already is. Shrikanthv (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Shrikanthv (talk) 05:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Same topic. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:35, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support I have an academic degree in Integral Yoga of Aurobindo. The psychology one can/should be merged into Yoga one. --AmritasyaPutra^T 13:56, 22 September 2015 (UTC) Copied from User talk:Shrikanthv#Integral Yoga & Integral psychology[reply]

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Evolution is teleology

Kind of skeptical on adding this as teleology definition is very narrow, while Sri Aurobindo says is much vaster, What sri Aurobindo mentions is that the material has potentiality to evolve that is different from teleology of information being already present Shrikanthv (talk) 07:46, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Teleological" also refers to philosophy, and people like Bergson. I'll think it over, okay? Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 09:09, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, it's a nice point. I'll work it into the article. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 09:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:32, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The goal of Integral yoga

I believe the following does not properly summarise and only takes a line out of a large corpus body of work:

"In integral yoga, the goal is twofold: to become aware of the Divine, as the unity of the One, but also the unity in the diversity of all that exists; and to attain liberation by permanent contact with and dwelling in the Divine, the transformation of the lower being into "the human image of the divine," and the liberation of consciousness from the compulsions of the ego. (Sri Aurobindo, The Synthesis of Yoga, pp.47-48)

It would be interesting to discuss and then put this back to main page for discussion Shrikanthv (talk) 06:14, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, any ideas? Sources? What's missing? Meanwhile, I'll put it back; it does add info on Aurobindo, and meanwhile we can search for improvements. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:49, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

right let it be there until we find something nice Shrikanthv (talk) 06:54, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some sources with a neat summary of Aurobindo's levels of Being:

Sharma, Ram Nath (1991), Sri Aurobindo's Philosophy of Social Development, Atlantic Publishers
Gupta, Monica (2014), Sri Aurobindo's Vision of Integral Human Development: Designing a Future Discipline of Study, Springer

Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:58, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

JJ I would rather suggest a westerner point of view in these matters, as I see the others can be making things narrower. Here is my suggestion: Satpre, Sri Aurobindo, or the adventure of consciousness. I would personally recommend this book to you before you go into other books on integral yoga.

Regarding the goal, possible this ?

"A key precept is that one cannot separate the physical from the spiritual. We are living, spiritual beings, whether we recognize it or not. The goal is to integrate the physical, mental and spiritual aspects of ourselves. Hence the practice of integral yoga to reunite “the infinite in the finite, the timeless in the temporal and the transcendent with the immanent”

Shrikanthv (talk) 07:12, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. Merger?

"The goal of Integral yoga is to become aware of the Divine, and to integrate the physical, mental and spiritual aspects of ourselves, reuniting "the infinite in the finite, the timeless in the temporal and the transcendent with the immanent." (source?)

Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:29, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

reverts

Hi user:Editor2020 would like to know why you reverted my edits Shrikanthv (talk) 08:49, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Because the are jargon. –Editor2020 (talk) 13:49, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Roll-back

In response to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Integral yoga, I've rolled-back the article to my last version of february 2017, as it is much clearer. Sorry Shrikanthv, but given the reception of this article, I think this is better. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Same again, Shrikanthv, yet more view from inside, giving the reader no clue of the history, practice, reception or anything else of use, just yet more uncited Aurobindo-spiel. Imagine visiting a page on, say, Wicca, and finding a mass of material for practitioners ... it's not acceptable here. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]