Jump to content

Talk:José Enrique de la Peña

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Name

[edit]

What is this person's surname? We do not have an article for him on the Spanish Wikipedia, the Spanish biography of Davy Crockett refers to him as "Peña". The Spanish biography of Manuel de Falla describes him as "Falla". PatGallacher (talk) 17:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A few places do list him as Pena[1] but the majority of the English-language sources I've found refer to him as "de la Pena". For example, Bill Groneman wrote a book called Defense of a Legend: Crockett and the de la Pena Diary and the description of the translation of the purported diary also refers to him as de la Pena [2]. This could very well be their own ignorance of Spanish naming practices, but when I created this article I chose to use the format most common in English-language sources.. Karanacs (talk) 18:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. Does that necessarily clinch the argument? I tend to think we should go with Spanish naming practices. PatGallacher (talk) 18:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In general, WP articles should use whatever name the subject is most commonly known by (WP:MOSBIO and WP:NAMEPEOPLE). This means that people are sometimes referred to be their pseudonym (for example, Nora Roberts) rather than their legal name. In many cases, names have been translated into English, so that version is used (Charles III of Spain rather than Carlos III). The vast majority of the English-language sources refer to him as "de la Pena", so in my opinion that is what the article should use on the English encyclopedia. (Other language encyclopedias should follow the naming convention in their sources.) Karanacs (talk) 18:48, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This convention, to use the name by which the person is most commonly known in English, only applies to the titles of biographies. The convention in relation to the main body of an article is just that they should normally use the surname. I suggest that, all things being equal, brevity is preferred, and since the whole purpose of an encyclopedia is to educate it should show a degree of sensitivity for foreign naming conventions. PatGallacher (talk) 19:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The biography of Federico García Lorca refers to him as García Lorca in most of the article. PatGallacher (talk) 19:07, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel comfortable using a format that is not supported by the sources. If the sources misspelled a surname all the time, I'd have to use the misspelling (this has actually been an issue with names like Kimbell/Kimball). Otherwise does that verge on original research? Is there a noticeboard for this type of thing? Karanacs (talk) 20:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on José Enrique de la Peña. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 21:06, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on José Enrique de la Peña. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:14, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:José_Enrique_de_la_Peña&oldid=1206901833"