Talk:Joseph Smith

LDS Church

In the open the wording is, “ Several religious denominations identify as the continuation of the church that he organized, including the LDS Church and the Community of Christ.”

I am not aware of any organization officially identifying as LDS Church. I know many Latter-day Saints who are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but if you are identifying official names then the official name is shown incorrectly.  

For brevity I could see’The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS)’ after first use. Or short form ‘the Church’. But first use should show official name. Also, it may sound awkward, but it makes sense to me to remove ‘the’ before Community of Christ to avoid confusion around its official name. 2001:56A:F73F:4500:7D48:3302:EEE9:780D (talk) 03:30, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

The wording identified is at the end of the 4th paragraph in the lede....the full name and then establishment of the short name for the LDS Church is already done in the opening paragraph of the article. ChristensenMJ (talk) 03:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Church of Christ

Under the section titled, "Joseph Smith Jr.", 2nd paragraph, is this sentence, "The same year he organized the Church of Christ, calling it a restoration of the early Christian Church."

Suggestion: add a sentence clarifying that the church name was subsequently changed to the current title, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-daySaints",  based on this recorded statement in April 26, 1838

"For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints", Doctrine and Covenants 115:4

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/115?id=p4&lang=eng#p4

The name of the church was reitterated by the current president of the church:

"The Correct Name of the Church"

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2018/10/the-correct-name-of-the-church?lang=eng

The emphasis on the correct name has eclipsed "Mormon church" or other popular references.

Suggestion: tie hyperlinks to the name of the church to that churches official website, which offers comprehensive historical records

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/books-and-lessons/church-history?lang=eng Sdoud (talk) 01:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' name, and the various names of the church organization Smith founded, are explained on the page (permanent link to current version):

• The religion he founded is followed to the present day by millions of global adherents and several churches, the largest of which is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
• In Missouri, the church also took the name "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints"

The phrase "Mormon Church" never appears on the page. For the recorded consensus on forms like "LDS Church", see MOS:LDS, a link to Wikipedia's Manual of Style. It looks like last time the use of the phrase "LDS Church" was discussed, a preponderance of editors came out in favor of using "LDS Church" as the preferred shorthand for pages in mainspace, and the discussion closed with that as consensus. P-Makoto (she/her) (talk) 02:13, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2024

The statement in quotes below is not accurate there is no LDS Church, and members of the church have always referred to one another as Saints. They did for a period of time accept being called Mormons, but it was derogatory and often used to imply the members were not Christian, or that they were non member sympathizers of the church in general.

"Mormons generally regard Smith as a prophet comparable to Moses and Elijah. Several religious denominations identify as the continuation of the church that he organized, including the LDS Church and the Community of Christ."

It should read "Saints generally regard Smith as a prophet comparable to Moses and Elijah. Several religious denominations identify as the continuation of the church that he organized, including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints commonly referred to as the LDS Church, and the Community of Christ." Jason Wasden (talk) 22:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

When you're writing for a global audience (as we are), a saint is typically understood to be a dead person who has been canonized. In that light, it's unlikely that "Saints generally regard Smith" at all. Also, see MOS:LDS. ~Awilley (talk) 01:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

I suggest we use Jason Wasden's edit, but with "Saints" changed to "Latter-day saints" or at least "Latter-day saints (Mormons)." FluxIntegral (talk) 20:47, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 01:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2024

I suggest that note b should be changed to include the fact that the vast majority of Latter Day Saints followed Brigham Young. FluxIntegral (talk) 20:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Bowler the Carmine | talk 17:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)