Talk:Parable of the Tares
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[edit]"Some Historians" it should be noted are the very tares that this parable warns about. This is a Biblical Christian Writing and there are many non-Christians who would call themselves Authorities and intentionaly alter other peoples Religions through their re-interpretation of our History. They also would love for us to drop sections from our Bibles and adopt Non-Canonical writings like the Nag Hammadi in thier place. Turning the Bibles truth into a book of fables and lies that agree with thier lines of thinking. This Parable was written to warn us of this type of people that would be in our midst... Truth trodden under foot is still the truth. --189.70.211.165 (talk) 17:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Mr_Maranatha
Whatever the above means it was full of misspellings and does not belong in the article proper. The gist of their argument should be reworded and added in an NPOV fashion.
Disagreements of interpretation
[edit]This parable means that even if you understand and practice truley spiritual actions (Growing your crop) you will also sin ( weeds ) this is due to the nature of your mind, (as opposed to your soul.) So don't beat yourself up, don't suppress your self too much, also don't neglect your spiritual work either, be patient, the seeds are sown, you can be happy or sad and there are no other choices.
- That interpretation is not at all correct! Matthew 13:36-43 explains it later on.
- Here's some additional info to help the interpretation of this passage. I'm puttinging it here instead of on the article page because I'm not sure it really belongs there, as I've been corrected about "Original Research" before...
- From Deuteronomy 22:9, "You shall not sow your vineyard with different kinds of seed, lest the yield of the seed which you have sown and the fruit of your vineyard be defiled." However, Rabbinic tradition analyzed this passgage to death and concluded that wheat and tares are not considered "diverse kinds" (Kilaim 1:1, I think). So, the tares don’t make the wheat unclean. Tares look similar to wheat; you can’t tell the difference until the head, the fruit, forms. The difference is that the wheat bears fruit. It is sustenance. Tares on the other hand just look pretty, but are useless.
- 153.42.34.2 (Messiah College student)
- Oh yeah, forgot to mention; the point that tares at first look similar to wheat is that the reason the workers have to wait is to give time for the wheat to mature...
Parable of the Weeds
[edit]The entry on the parable of the wheat & the tares is really only a "stem." The authors correctly state that interpretation of the parable is complex; then they completely gloss over the complexities. This parable has a rich & controversial history of interpretation, with important theological & political implications. Among the commentators are the Gospel writer of Matthew himself, Augustine of Hippo & Martin Luther. A more thorough (& more accurate) entry is needed, & I am not competent to supply it.71.3.79.187 15:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Tares, Darnel, & Cockle are all Weeds
[edit]Okay, so if the King James Version uses the word weeds repeatedly, then why does the page name the parable after tares? Is this some new age wording? -Gomm 22:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- The answer is quite simple - the KJV doesn't use the word weeds. Although both quotations from Matthew claimed to be KJV, the second one was, the first one wasn't. It is now! --rossb 11:03, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- There are other translations predating the King James Version, including "Darnel" and "Cockle", while most modern translations state "Weeds". The only consensus among all the translations is that "Darnel", "Cockle", and "Tares" are all "Weeds". I've created a draft page, and vote to move this page to the new "The Parable of the Weeds" page; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Parable_of_the_Weeds. @Gomm: Universal Constants (talk) 20:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC) @Rossb: Universal Constants (talk) 20:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Warnings appended to the "Attribution" section
[edit]The following warning ...
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Unless the whole section is cleared up, I propose to remove the article's section altogether.
This section of the Talk Page is specifically for discussing this issue.
Miguel de Servet (talk) 12:41, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Gorilla199
[edit]The Tares are the human sized offspring of the Nephilim who are in turn the giant children of the Fallen Angels and human women sometimes called reptilians. King James Bible - Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. HERE IS WHAT THE TARES REALLY ARE:
APOLLYON THE DESTROYER IS A HERMAPHRODITE...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NDInwNBNxI&t=2s
MORE ABOUT THE REPTILIAN HERMAPHRODITES...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tza1Pgd_wFE&t=50s
Source> Gorilla199 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/gorilla199
Interpretation: "Common" or sectarian?
[edit]"According to the common interpretation, the good seeds are the spiritual children of Jesus Christ and the weeds are the rest of the population of the Earth that are the spiritual children of Satan."
Common to whom? Certain subsets of self-identified Christians? Not, I submit, to the author of the parable, who never referred to his children, spiritual or otherwise, let alone used such a phrase as code for adherents to a religion. Nor to any objective reader. The idea that Jesus of Nazareth consigned "the rest of the population of the Earth" to hell, rather than specific evildoers, is not only textually insupportable, it is an abhorrently grotesque understanding of his reported teachings. This POV failure, in the lead paragraph no less, beggars belief. Michael (talk) 18:59, 22 December 2016 (UTC)