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about Rasta Ring 0 Debugger

If this debugger is so good, it must be separated into another article, are not? --Yonkie 16:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)changet[reply]

That rasta debugger doesn't look serious at all. The web page is cartoonish and says the disasm engine is buggy. I really doubt it can be called a replacement. <90>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.82.128.236 (talk) 23:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Versioning

Can someone who knows the version history include a paragraph about that, such as the last release before it was discontinued? Also, it seems like Compuware reset the version numbers when they started including SoftICE in their driver development suite. I'm not sure, but I think "SoftICE 4.0" is an earlier version than "SoftICE Driver Suite 2.6".67.169.183.167 13:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SoftICE discontinued: Does it even run on XP SP2 or higher, or Vista?

It is always stated that SoftICE is used and works with the latest versions of Windows. I cannot confirm it, for XP SP2 or Vista, SoftICE does not work anymore.

My testing shows that it requires updates to the Universal Video Driver, at least, in order to work on XP SP2 or SP3. It also needs some work with regards to USB keyboards. From what we've seen, considerably more work will be required to support Vista or Windows 7. --Rpapo (talk) 10:33, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thus, shouldn't the article written more in the past, and the statement about "running on the latest versions of Windows" removed? sorry about to write this here but SoftICE (Driver Studio 3.2) works up to XP SP3 87.163.237.100 (talk) 12:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, though the product is not quite dead yet. We (Micro Focus) have the source code and some of us are working on the side in hopes of reviving the product. It will take quite a bit of work, though, to get it to work on 32-bit Windows Vista and Windows 7, let alone making a 64-bit flavor of the thing. --Rpapo (talk) 10:33, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously, we didn't go forward on this. --Rpapo (talk) 17:47, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

64bit alternatives?

Are there any (commercial or non-commercial) alternatives for 64bit operating systems (Vista/7)available? --SeveQ (talk) 12:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

yes, x64_dbg 85.164.164.122 (talk) 04:58, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What reasons?

"but is not actively maintaining the product for various technical and market reasons" .And I thought i was on wiki"open"pedia.Either remove it or give details.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.224.166.124 (talk) 11:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My guess would be that one of the Governments disagreed with such a tool being available, and made it pretty clear to the developers of SoftICE. 79.71.95.183 (talk) 18:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't involved in the decision (that happened well above my pay grade, so to speak), but I am reasonably certain that it simply came down to money. The product brought in a certain amount of revenue. It cost a certain amount of money to maintain the product. They very likely decided it wasn't worth their effort anymore, and so they pulled the plug. Simple as that. --Rpapo (talk) 16:44, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum regarding "open" Wikipedia: It may be open, but a person may be bound by oath or by contract to not divulge certain pieces of information. So it is with me. There are things I am allowed to say, and things that I am not allowed to say. Besides, Wikipedia doesn't want statements without a reference published elsewhere, which in this case is not available. Compuware canned the product, and they chose not to explain themselves. I wasn't in those meetings, and if I had been I would very likely be obliged not to say anything. Not having been there, I can only speculate as to what was said. --Rpapo (talk) 11:10, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

External link

I added an external link. One editor removed it. I could not find the reason for the removal. I am new to wikipedia editing, so pardon my ignorance. Boolda (talk) 05:10, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What is the purpose of it? It looks like a blog post. See WP:UGC • Sbmeirow • Talk • 09:29, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

But the post has very valuable links. SoftICE was part of the folklore of an era. It had tremendous influence over a culture that spun around this otherwise software debugger. The post perfectly captures the sentiments of that bygone era. Wikipedia article does not capture the cultural nuances of SoftICE. I think the blog post is very very relevant to capture what SofICE really meant to people who could wield its power. Please allow me to add that link to this page. --Boolda (talk) 19:42, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's still a blog, and we aren't suppose to link to a blog, unless it's an official corporate blog for the software. Put the links that point to the best content here. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 08:10, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Add Copy-X anti-ICE info

I wanted to flesh out the "Anti-SoftICE" measures section by including an example of said measures. Some versions of Copy-X (https://web.archive.org/web/20011016234742/http://www.optimal-online.de:80/product/copy_x.htm) have explicit protection against SoftICE, and runs a process called SoftICE-Test when booting a protected game, with the game displaying "SoftICE für Windows95 aktiv!" or "SoftICE für WindowsNT aktiv!" (depending on which you're using) and closing itself if SoftICE is detected. I'm not sure how to include a source for this, though- I only found out Copy-X did this while digging through the DLL for various protected games, and deciding to test it out myself. While I've verified it indeed does do what I just described, I don't know how to properly cite that, since if anyone else has tried this, they never wrote about it anywhere I can find. Heroponrikibestest (talk) 01:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]