Template:Did you know nominations/Gosos
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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by BlueMoonset (talk) 02:31, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator on August 24 but should not have been a self-closure and was not done properly; reclosing so that the DYKsubpage template is properly substituted.
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Gosos
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- ... that gosos are a kind of devotional and paraliturgical songs of Iberian origin typical of Sardinia?
Source: Hobart, M. (2017). A Companion to Sardinian History, 500–1500. Brill's Companions to European History. Brill. p. 457.
- Reviewed: Carl Rasch (physician)
Created by Dk1919 Franking (talk) and Sam Sailor (talk). Nominated by Sam Sailor (talk) at 12:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC).
Interesting subject, on good sources, offline and Italian sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The hook is nothing spectacular, sorry. How about something about the many bans? - I would love more lead, answering some questions still open after reading: Are these songs still sung today (and if yes when, where, by whom), or just history? Where does drama come in? - I confess that I find (any) sound examples unattractive, even if licensed. - I understand gosos s a plural term, so would you say a gosos? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:23, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for your always positive feedback, Gerda Arendt.
The ultimate question you ask in regards to the word's use in English is best answered by looking at anglophone sources, of which there aren't a whole lot, but the this thesis by Kathleen Boyle uses a gosos, i.e. plurale tantum. In Catalan and Castilian singular forms exist. In Italian, the singular form would appear not to be in use, whereas this paper and this paper both use un gosos, i.e. plurale tantum. Perhaps Dk1919 Franking can comment on the use in Italian?
I will expand the lead and get back here with an alternative hook; and your suggestions to an ALT would be warmly welcomed, needless to say. Sam Sailor 11:34, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you, helped. - I can give you directions for a hook, but if I word one, we need another reviewer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:45, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sam, will you suggest something? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for your always positive feedback, Gerda Arendt.
- May I suggest something along the lines of:
- ALT1: ... that the gosos, devotional Sardinian songs, have been banned by the King of Spain, the Church and the Italian government?
- The significance of Philip's theatrical ban is not made clear in context, so this alt is probably not going to work. I could substitute 'banned' for 'discouraged' or somesuch, but it's nicer when hooks are catchy. I unfortunately don't speak Italian and don't see where, if at all, the government (which I presume to be national and not local) is alleged to have banned the gosos. @Sam Sailor: - can you clarify this for me and ideally give the source and exact quote? ~ Maltrópa loquace 15:07, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for proposing. I feel that any one of them would be interesting enough (maybe not the King). Will wait for Sam. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- My apologies, (Gerda Arendt—Maltrópa), for the delayed reply; allow me a day or two to work on this. Sam Sailor 15:42, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for proposing. I feel that any one of them would be interesting enough (maybe not the King). Will wait for Sam. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 30 July 2018 (UTC)