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Related ancestry discussion

Please see: Template_talk:Ahnentafel#Case_study:_Boris_Johnson. PPEMES (talk) 19:42, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brexit: Uncivil War

Is Brexit: The Uncivil War worth putting in the depictions, or not? I've never discussed templates before and not sure on the rules, so any help in general would also be appreciated. PoliceSheep99 (talk) 22:32, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Minister for the Union" placement

JugulatorJJ, would you mind explaining your reasoning rather than silently reverting please? I think my own was fairly clear, but I'll copy my edit summary here for others: "moved Minister for the Union from First Ministry to general Premiership -- this is a navbox and Minister for the Union is about the position rather than the fact of its creation, Commonwealth Chair-in-Office is also not listed as 'Commonwealth Chair-in-Office position assumed'". To add to that, as per WP:NAV, navboxes are intended to provide links to related articles, not to furnish narrative histories, and in this case the article is about the topic "Minister for the Union", not the creation of the office. —Nizolan ^{(talk · c.)} 02:16, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Commonwealth Chair-in-Office was already an existing position prior to Johnson becoming Prime Minister. He actually took the role over from Theresa May and is scheduled to hand the role over to the President of Rwanda at CHOGM 2021. The big difference is the brand new Ministerial role was created by Johnson in his first ministry. Therefore I fail to see why the position being created cannot be listed as being created in his first ministry. Creating a brand new ministerial role is a pretty significant event in a PM's ministry. The last time a ministerial position to be held by every Prime Minister was created was in 1968 with Minister for the Civil Service. So it's an extremely rare and significant event. If he was merely taking over an established position from the former PM then yes it wouldn't be worth mentioning but actually creating a new position is. JugulatorJJ (talk) 02:54, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Like I said, though, the point of this template isn't to list significant events, it's to list articles, and listing "Minister for the Union" under First Ministry incorrectly suggests that that article is only relevant to the first ministry when in fact about half of the content there pertains to the second. It may also give the misleading impression that the position only existed under the First Ministry. —Nizolan ^{(talk · c.)} 03:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]