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Thank you. I have been having much enjoyment with it lately, but there seems to be a lot to learn. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm getting some comments and flags that are a little for me to understand. Djaymiller (talk) 21:21, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Billboard Christmas Singles Chart Top 100 1963-1983

The article Billboard Christmas Singles Chart Top 100 1963-1983 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Seems like original research; compiling a Top 100 based on unclear criteria. We already have the general Billboard Christmas Holiday Charts article, and (listed in the see also) a number of specific lists for this: the current article seems like unwanted overkill.

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Thank you for your suggestions. I am in the process of merging this data to the original page to prevent an overkill of lists linked to the original article. I am presenting titles listed in the cited articles and avoided duplication by routine calculations of the number appearances and rankings. I feel that qualifies as "What is not original research" in original research Djaymiller (talk) 20:53, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of List of Billboard number one Holiday Digital Song Sales 2010-2019

The article List of Billboard number one Holiday Digital Song Sales 2010-2019 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

The chart itself, which is only published for a few weeks each year, is not independently notable; nor is there coverage of what is number one on it in non-primary sources to justify a stand-alone list.

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Proposed deletion of List of Billboard number one Holiday Digital Song Sales of the 2020s

The article List of Billboard number one Holiday Digital Song Sales of the 2020s has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

The chart itself, which is only published for a few weeks each year, is not independently notable; nor is there coverage of what is number one on it in non-primary sources to justify a stand-alone list.

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Holiday Digital Song Sales

Hi, you say in your edit summary that the Holiday Digital Song Sales chart is notable for having the longest chart history of any Billboard Holiday Song chart. Could you direct me to your source that mentions that fact? Thanks. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 01:57, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The latest week here https://www.billboard.com/charts/holiday-season-digital-song-sales/ shows 154 weeks. The chart on average 12 weeks a year since 2010. Djaymiller (talk) 02:00, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but how does that make the chart or reaching number one on it notable? I don't find any coverage in independent sources that discuss this chart. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 02:02, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here a few articles I found reference or mention the chart:

https://musicexistence.com/blog/tag/holiday-digital-song-sales/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mariah-carey-want-christmas-tops-002440753.html

https://movieweb.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-holiday-specials-original-kevin-bacon-old-97s-songs-become-billboard-chart-hits/ Djaymiller (talk) 02:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the work you put into this. I don't think that's enough to justify the lists of number ones and other excessive chart info you've added to other pages like Billboard Christmas Holiday Charts. When I can get around to it, I'm going to let the community decide through a discussion at WP:AFD. No offense, I'm a chart fanatic myself but it's all a bit extraneous for this encyclopedia. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 02:34, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's a work in progress. Many of the titles, especially prior to 1985, are only available in back issues. Research of this topic has been a passion of mine for decades. I appreciate your input, but I see no more justification for Wikipedia pages and lists of #1's for almost every other Billboard Chart than one for Christmas songs and albums, a chart that has existed at least since 1963. Djaymiller (talk) 02:46, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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"List of popular Christmas singles in the United States" Article

Hi Djaymiller. Thank you for all your recent edits and additions to the article [[List of popular Christmas singles in the United States]]. As far as I can tell, when this article was created a little more than 16 years ago, there was no criteria established to determine which songs/recordings could be included (nor have any real guidelines been established since then). And though I personally have either added or edited entries to the table in this article hundreds (if not thousands) of times since November 11, 2007, I cannot help but wonder if it may have outlived its usefulness due to its massive size in addition to (and related to) its general lack of qualifications for content inclusion. In late 2010, one Wikipedia user even tagged the article for deletion. Would you be able to take a few minutes to weigh in on the latest topic on the Talk Page of this article? Thank you for your time. Sliv812 (talk) 09:20, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Before adding a category to an article, as you did to Superstition (song), please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. The category being added must already exist, and must be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 06:19, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So if I reference the article with documentation that it belongs in the category, it will stay. Djaymiller (talk) 06:38, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. But it should show that the song is commonly referred to as a Halloween song.

Assembling sources from Halloween song lists such as this isn't the answer. It would violate WP:SYNTH.

Here's a suggestion for the CCR song "Bad Moon Rising". Summarize this in the song article and then you can add the category. Binksternet (talk) 09:23, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Popular Christmas songs

In Template:Popular Christmas songs you added a link to Bill Gaither. Unfortunately, that links is to a disambiguation page. Both musician named on that disambiguation page give no clear indication regarding to Christmas songs. Which one is the right one and can you fix that in the template? The Banner talk 18:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just want to explain something

Hi. I'm here to talk about the edits you made to the Prince album template. Firstly, I completely understand why you made those edits, the albums (especially Crystal Ball) give off a lot of compilation vibes. However, and don't ask me why this is the case because I truly don't know myself, those albums are considered studio albums rather than compilations, it's just something we don't question. The last thing I want is for this to become an edit war so please next time ask for consensus before making edits like that. (also, Hit n Run Phase Two should've totally fallen under your definition of compilation). Many regards, Great Mercian (talk) 12:04, 23 December 2023 (UTC).[reply]

Proper closing of small tags

Just to let you know, small tags should be properly closed, like this: <small>...</small>

In many of your edits to Billboard Christmas Holiday charts you are not closing small tags correctly, which are generating lint errors. For example, have a look at this edit of yours. You may have noticed I have been correcting these errors for a few days now. —Bruce1ee ^talk 12:00, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your assistance. I have been trying to figure out the proper use. I noticed placing one twice causes an even small font, so I wasn't sure you were supposed to close it. Djaymiller (talk) 12:06, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are still not closing your small tags correctly in your recent edits to Billboard Christmas Holiday charts. Please read my explanation above on how to do it. Thanks. —Bruce1ee ^talk 15:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe we were trying to correct it at the same time and cancelling our corrections. Djaymiller (talk) 15:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This edit is yours is not correcting it. Small tags need to be closed like this: <small>...</small>. —Bruce1ee ^talk 15:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Djaymiller (talk) 15:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please get consensus for your changes to Prince albums discography

Firstly, you need to stop marking every single one of your edits as minor. They are not minor edits. In some cases you have added thousands of bytes of data in one edit and you have still marked them as "minor". See Help:Minor edit for what a minor edit is. Most of your edits are not minor.

As for your changes to Prince albums discography earlier this month:

You need to seek consensus for attempting to reclassify studio albums as compilation albums. The articles for all those albums you moved to compilations still call them studio albums. By apparently no other editor's definition on this website are they considered compilation albums. This is a very contentious change and you 100% should have proposed it at Talk:Prince (musician) or at the least the discography talk page before making it.
You have introduced another chart column, the US R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart, when the tables should only have 10 chart columns per the widely followed example of MOS:DISCOGSTYLE. More than 10 columns overloads tables with data. Some tables on the article already have 11, and that is too many. Adding an American genre chart when the tables already have enough columns in them should not be done.
It really doesn't matter if The Black Album was a "limited" release or that some releases that occurred in the 2000s were digital only: they were still released, and so for consistency, "Released:" should stay as is.
Introducing colspans mid-table (as you did for posthumous releases) is considered a violation of MOS:COLHEAD and a hindrance to those who use screen readers, so please don't do it.
In regards to your changes on Prince singles discography: I have removed the excessive columns (including dance chart statistics, which you added when the columns should amount to 10 at most); the overly detailed notes (all releases now are digital, we don't need to point this out); and inclusion of B-sides like "Hello" and "Love or Money" in the main singles chronology that were not there before. If you wish to re-include these, please also seek consensus at an article talk page.
"Controversy" (live in Hawaii)'s first release, including as a digital single, occurred in March 2004, before the release of "Musicology". The chronology should not reflect when it was only released physically.
We do not put promotional singles in chronologies, which are only for full singles.

As I said, please propose your changes at a related Prince article talk page, either Talk:Prince albums discography or, as I suggested, Talk:Prince (musician) as that would get more attention as it is more widely watched, before trying to make them again. These are significant reconfigurations of albums that have for years been called studio albums on Wikipedia. Thank you. Ss112 18:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I second this. It's frustrating to see you making large, unprecedented changes to both articles and templates like that. However it's my belief that even if you had sought consensus I highly doubt you would've gotten much support from both ordinary editors and the Prince community at large as various sources and publications like the albums as studio albums rather than compilations (I.e. Benoît Clerc's Prince All the Songs lists Crystal Ball as a studio album separate from what was formatted for compilations in the same book.) Great Mercian (talk) 19:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Djaymiller: It isn't wise to ignore these messages. Great Mercian (talk) 00:01, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you assume any conversation about it would just be frustrating? I received your previous messages and have halted changes since to those pages since. I don't know why you feel the to need to leave unflattering and threatening messages. I am fairly new to Wikipedia and was trying to improve the pages. I apologize for edits that caused issues, but your communications certainly makes it discouraging to participate. Djaymiller (talk) 05:12, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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