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Jack Sparrow

In 1919, India was part of the British Empire - any copyright to the British-issued passport would fall under "Crown Copyright". British Indian Passport

The normal term of "Crown Copyright" and Copyright Made Easier strongly implies that the work (as it is not otherwise a "work of art" etc.) would be for 50 years from date of "publication". In the case at hand, I would argue that the Crown Copyright expired no later than in 1990, as 1940 is the presumed "year of publication."

IANAL, but in working for a major ISP, I was required to know a bit about how to deal with copyrights. I had to convince folks there that where a company sent an image for publicity purposes, they gave consent for use of the image for publicity purposes, as long as the copyright was acknowledged. This seemed to puzzle "corporate lawyers" who had never had to deal with companies seeking to have images published on-line before.

Hope you find this interesting. <g> Collect (talk) 16:07, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

  • Interesting factoid - and not surprised: I suspect that the vast majority of people either don't know or don't care about how broad copyright protection goes. The passport itself certainly falls under Crown Copyright as it is produced and designed by the government, but the ID photo may be made by someone not connected to the government and merely used in the passport, so I would not by default assume that CrCo applies to a passport photo. Good example how the details of the production process matter, though.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:25, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Absent any identification otherwise, I understand that passport photos are not covered as "creative art" at all, so the copyright of any photographer (positing that it was remotely possible to identify the photographer) would be intrinsically weak.
For a photograph in general to have a strong copyright, some slight piece of originality is required. Passport photos, on the other hand, share all the originality of mugshots <g>.
And if the photographer in 1919 were known by name, the expiration of any claim on his part (which would require proof that he was, indeed, the photographer) would almost certainly have been on or before 1990. (As he did not object to it being published in 1940, the "clock" would quite certainly have started then and he would have had to raise the issue before 1990).
At this point, I suggest the "Crown Copyright" argument is compelling and sufficient. Collect (talk) 18:01, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
For the first point, File:Christoph Meili 1997-nonfree.jpg is PD in Switzerland because that kind of photo is too generic to meet Switzerland's copyrightability standard, as ruled by the Swiss Federal Court. So yeah, there is definitively a floor there.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:20, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
For a British publication, the clock starts at the year of publication and expires 70 years plus the time to 1 January if the author is not credited and writes as a "work for hire" as part of a company. So a 1945 John Bartholomew & Sons cycling map is now out of copyright. However, if the author is explicitly named, the clock starts on the year the last author died, which means that a 1945 London A-Z Street Atlas, with copyright explicitly acknowledged as belonging to Phyllis Pearsall, is not going to expire until 1 January 2067 thanks to Mrs Pearsall living to a ripe old age. Now, Crown Copyright (ie: works produced for hire for a government body) only lasts for 50 years + time to 1 January, which means that a 1964 Ordnance Survey road map is out of copyright and can be freely shared, like here. While IANAL, I have spoken to staff in the British Library who agree with this understanding. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:37, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
In the hypothetical example - the passport is a "work for hire" possessing no modicum of artistry salient to a separate copyright and bearing no identification at all of the photographer, thus the Crown Copyright under current standards applies as of the date the 50 year limit was established? That copyright either expired in 1988 (counting the Crown's usage of the photo as "publication") at the earliest, and 1990 (50 years after general publication) at the latest? Collect (talk) 20:28, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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19:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Precious

volcanoes in South America

Thank you for quality articles on volcanoes in South America such as Aucanquilcha, for welcoming users and warning them for unconstructive editing, problems with images and copyright violation, for "blocking ... is a blunt instrument and to be used with care and discretion", for a powerful image as a user page, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:14, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

I see...

... That you hit the ground running :) congrats (don't burn out)--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:56, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

welcome to the mop corps

Congratulations on your successful RFA!
Allow me to impart the words of wisdom I received from the puppy after my RFA passed – nine long, sordid, I-should-have-found-a-better-hobby years ago:
  1. Remember you will always protect the wrong version. (I got nothing here. It's inevitable.)
  2. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. Without exception, you will pick the wrong one to do. (See #5.)
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Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bbb23

But what if I morph from Champion CheckUser to Evil Sockmaster? I don't know you, but congratulations on becoming an administrator.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:55, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Darien Joseph Removal

The removal of Darien Joseph Personality page was incorrect This page should not be speedily deleted because... (This person who is under management of Studio71 is relevant enough to partake in having a minor wiki page. The notability factor of wikipedia is acceptable with this personality. You can review his social media authenticity at request of LetterBoxTV Inc.) --Letterboxtv (talk) 08:20, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Please re-visit and re-instate the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Letterboxtv (talk • contribs) 08:32, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Sorry this personality is notable enough to have a wiki page. His brand has a following of 100,000+ that is notable enough for a wiki page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Letterboxtv (talk • contribs) 08:39, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

If you didn't notice the 100,000+ notability you obviously didn't look at the page correctly. I am working with a wiki admin now. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Letterboxtv (talk • contribs) 09:01, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

It's fun being an admin, isn't it, Jo-Jo? ;-) @Letterboxtv: Wikipedia is read by millions of people around the world, including confirmed paedophiles. Putting your autobiography on there is an extremely dangerous move that you should absolutely not do. Please read Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors carefully. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:45, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Page delation

Can you please fully remove the page Darien_Joseph_(Personality) from Wikipedia itself. Or retitled the page and delete all information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markjeeditor (talk • contribs) 10:43, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

@Markjeeditor: That page is already deleted. Darien Joseph is up for deletion here if you want to delete that.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:20, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Note Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Letterboxtv Muffled Pocketed 11:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations...

...on your successful RfA. Good luck with the new tools! Maxim(talk) 11:41, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Congrats..The admins' T-shirt for you. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 11:54, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2016_June_29

Hello and thank you for letting me know that several of the tree photos I've posted have been nominated for deletion. I saw the comment from user Fastily on each file, which says "Unused personal image, no encyclopedic use." I'm not sure what that means. I uploaded the images for use on various Wikipedia pages about tree species and about the cities/towns or historic places where the trees are located. Is the problem that there's a person in the photos along with the trees? I do that to better show the size of the tree, but I can use photos without people in them if that's an issue. Also, at the time that I uploaded these images, I think I hadn't started uploading to Wikimedia Commons yet - so if the problem is that I should have uploaded them to Commons instead, I can do that. I'm not so concerned about these being taken down; I'm more concerned about doing things correctly in the future. Thanks. --Msact (talk) 01:58, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Dipankar Shah

I want to edit this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanam puri1 (talk • contribs) 04:35, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Would these fall under PD-logo?

Hello Jo-Jo Eumerus, would File:Klei Entertainment logo new.png and File:KleiEntertainment logo.png fall under {{PD-logo}}? Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:27, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Jo-Jo Emuerus

There's a new user named Jo-Jo Emuerus. I'm guessing that's not you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:53, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Blocked already. This is one f those situations where our CU policy most certainly ought to be somwwhat more liberal. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:14, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
I'd say the chances of an innocent new user choosing a name so similar to a new admin's (congrats) unusual name, then editing AfD and archiving sockpuppet cases, are around zero. I'd have blocked for the sockpuppetry alone. I'm fairly sure the CUs will be having a look. -- zzuuzz (talk) 10:15, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
All's well that ends well, Jo-Jo Eumerus. I explained my rationale here. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:07, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Wow, that didn't take long! Less than a week as an admin and you have a whole flock of admirers! Hope you aren't sorry you accepted the mop. Actually this suggests you have been doing something right. --MelanieN (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

And vandal fighting is not even my speciality...
Also, for the sake of preventing account theft I've created User:JoJo Eumerus for myself. May even use it as a disclosed alt account ... will have to check the procedures involved.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:11, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

MSI Construction INC

Gotcha. Adog104 Talk to me 16:40, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Durgan8

Hello Jo-Jo Eumerus, could you please delete Draft:Durgan8? It's a useless cross-namespace redirect. I understand that CSD was not applicable to that page (I tagged it for blanked by author because it was in draft namespace, and in the rev I clicked, it looked like a draft) due to it technically being a user talk page. Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:35, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Taryatu-Chulutu

On 9 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Taryatu-Chulutu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an eruption of Taryatu-Chulutu in the Holocene formed the Terkhiin Tsagaan Lake (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Taryatu-Chulutu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Taryatu-Chulutu), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:34, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Good Job!

Good job you have been become a admin! Congrats! DatNuttyWikipedian (talk) 23:48, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-28

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  • A new image scaler fixed a number of bugs for showing SVG files. Some new problems turned up. [3][4][5]
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  • Special:Notifications now has a maximum width for the notifications list on desktop computers. This allows long titles and descriptions to be cut properly. Notifications are now also better parsed. [9][10][11]

Problems

  • On 5 July Wikimedia Commons had problems and could not be edited for 20 minutes. For a short while after that the recent changes log and some gadgets were not working properly. It affected administrative actions on other projects too. [12]
  • Users who have multiple unread notifications can mark them as read by visiting Special:Notifications page on their wiki.

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 July. It will be on all wikis from 14 July (calendar).

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15:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Jerrybrassiere.jpg and File:Yankeedoodlemousescreen.jpg undeletion request

Can you please restore these two images? YoshiFan155 (talk) 04:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Already under discussion here. Probably best to let that discussion conclude.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:54, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Deletion Mark OLoughlin page - I have made an error

Hi

I created the wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_OLoughlin and realised an error. I had not included the apostrophe in my name. I had requested the above page to be deleted.

I then created a new wiki page under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_O%27Loughlin - the difference is the "O%27" in the url which represents the apostrophe in my name. I want to keep this page as it is the correct spelling.

Can you delete - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_OLoughlin

Can you undelete and keep - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_O%27Loughlin

Vsmith-1 (talk) 21:42, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

@Vsmith-1: The pages already are in this state. Also, generally it's ill advised to write an article about oneself.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:20, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of my Photo

It was clearly mentioned in that pic comments that, he posted that pic as I asked him that I will upload it to wiki, why that isn't enough--Imahesh3847 (talk) 20:12, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

@Imahesh3847: Wikipedia aims at being an encyclopedia whose content can be freely reused, including commercially and derived images. Generally, copyright law works so that any right not explicitly granted is reserved, so without explicit permission for either we cannot assume the image is free enough for our policy.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:20, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
@Jo-Jo Eumers: Then how can I upload that picture again i.e., with which sort of permissions from the copy-right holder.--Imahesh3847 (talk) 06:58, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
@Imahesh3847: See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:12, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Notice of absence

Due to holidays, I may be absent for the next two weeks.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:12, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip about page deletions. Is there a way to retrieve the article you deleted? I saved it in my email but accidentally deleted it :( Please let me know. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Informsac (talk • contribs) 02:24, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • On July 12 all wikis were rolled back to MediaWiki 1.28.0-wmf.8 due to a problem in the log-in system. [16][17]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 July. It will be on all wikis from 21 July (calendar).
  • Special:Log now has a help link. [18]
  • The RevisionSlider can be tested on the beta cluster. From 22 July, it will be available as a beta feature at: German Wikipedia, Arabic Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia

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  • You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is "Devise plan for a cross-wiki watchlist back-end". The meeting will be on 20 July at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join. [19]

Future changes

  • User scripts and bots can no longer use http:// to edit wiki pages. [20][21]
  • Gerrit is going to be updated. Developers are invited to test it. [22]

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12:01, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Quick question

Hi, just thought I'd run this by an admin before boldly taking off with this idea - the latest Tech News title was bungled when the mass-message sender sent it out. I've got a semi-automatic (as in, I'm having to verify and click "Save" after every found occurrence) AWB task set up which will fix these. Firstly, is this even needed, and secondly does this need any approval/consensus to do? -- samtar talk or stalk 13:29, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

@Samtar: Jo-Jo is on holiday. I'd suggest you ask someone who is more involved with AWB; in fact, maybe you should post your question at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser which seems to be very active. --MelanieN (talk) 14:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Ooops thank you MelanieN, I ended up getting an answer elsewhere :) Enjoy your holiday Jo-Jo -- samtar talk or stalk 14:48, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, to be strictly accurate I've found a Wi-Fi here but yes, holiday means less Wikipedia activity. Anyhow, AWB and massmessage are far outside my areas of work, so I'd suggest to follow Melanie's advice.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:37, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Sorry about that, Jo-Jo. Do you think you will be logging in fairly regularly, or shall we Talk Page Stalkers deal with your talk page while you are on holiday? --MelanieN (talk) 17:51, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
I don't mind talk page stalkers. So feel free to comment here if someone has a question. I expect to be here every day but the connection is slow and I'll not be spending much time on Wikipedia.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Sounds good. Enjoy your holiday! (P.S. Your page has only 39 watchers right now, but that will change. My first rule of "Things I've learned at Wikipedia": When you become an administrator, your talk page gets a lot more interesting.) --MelanieN (talk) 18:29, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Fissan/GA1

Hello Jo-Jo Eumerus, could you please undelete Talk:Fissan/GA1 and move it to User:Anarchyte/FissanGA1? That page is linked on my userpage so I'd like a copy. Thanks, Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:17, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Done.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:53, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-30

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  • Sometimes, the visual editor required saving twice. That problem is now fixed. [24]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 July. It will be on all wikis from 28 July (calendar).
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  • Wikipedia search will now detect the language of your search if 2 or fewer results are found. It will then show results from the matching language Wikipedia, if any relevant article exists. It will start to roll out in 5 languages. [26]

Meetings

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Future changes

  • The current icon for Notifications "Notices" (in English "Notices") will be changed from a bubble-speech icon to a tray icon for consistency. [28]
  • Special:Notifications page code will be changed to be more Mobile friendly. [29]

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19:54, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

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