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I've made some modifications to comply with your review comments, what do you think? ps. apologies if i'm only responding an hour after your review. I only noticed it a few minutes ago. -Red marquis (talk) 19:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Seegoon, I'm writing because I'm interested to know where I may find info for cite album notes. Thanks. -Red marquis (talk) 12:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The template's documentation, at {{cite album-notes}}, should tell you what you need to know. Seegoon (talk) 12:57, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. -Red marquis (talk) 19:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, as you did at Talk:Holy_Wood_(In_the_Shadow_of_the_Valley_of_Death)#GA_Review_2, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. "As an aside, although this article did need some extra spit and shine, L-l-CLK-l-l (talk · contribs)'s fail of the previous GA was brutal. He's just subjected me to an equally brusque summary execution, so don't take it to heart. He doesn't seem interested in helping articles reach GA; more interested in showing off his trophy cabinet of very good GAs of very shitty pop albums. I'll get off my soapbox now" is in no way acceptable, if you have a problem with me then talk to me, not about me. Do not do it again. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 20:28, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can't help but feel that you're taking this a little bit to heart. It was not a personal attack; there was no ad hominem or personal offence intended. Regardless, I apologise and I'll refrain from further comment. Seegoon (talk) 20:43, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thats fine. Unfortunately im here because of another issue now, Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death) should not have been passed, as you can see here Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)/archive1 i have listed issues found within 5 minutes, all of which violate GA policy, im here to ask you to please withhold (for now) from nominating and reviewing articles until you have read and fully understand WP:GA, WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA and all of their subsections. Thank you. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 21:50, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deftones discography

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Hello Seegoon, I just want to let you know that Deftones discography has several issues and currently is not up to the standards of WP:FL. The issues are listed at its talk page.--Cheetah (talk) 21:44, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing that to my attention (or at least nudging me enough to do something about it). It's certainly been on the slide since it was promoted back in the day and could do with some spit and polish. Seegoon (talk) 21:49, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Eat me, drink me

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Hello There! I've just finished my work in the article Eat me, drink me... now, everything has got references and the only thing missing is to complete the references, because there are just bare URLs, i don't know how to do that. I was wondering if you could do that please, because it is the only thing missing in the article. Thank You Salgado96 (talk) 23:07, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's a big job, so it's really your responsibility. The best way to do it is using {{cite web}} templates; to see them in action, take a look at pretty much any FA. For ease of reference, I'll point you towards one of my articles, Wavering Radiant. If you look through the wiki markup of that article, you should be able to work it out. An easy way of creating and populating the template is using the enhanced editing toolbar. It should appear at the top of your edit window if you have 'Enable enhanced editing toolbar' enabled in the 'Editing' section of your preferences. From there, you can select in the text where you want the reference to be, click 'Templates', select 'cite web' from the list and fill in the information. Then you can preview it and hit 'Insert' and you're away. You may need more info, but give that a go and we can work from there. Cheers, Seegoon (talk) 16:27, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi again. I was wondering if you know how to upload paintings by an artist. I've been looking for a wikipedia help page but couldn't find it. I'm stumped. Thanks.-Red marquis (talk) 12:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. It really depends upon who the artwork is by and when it's from. Have you looked at the upload tool? Seegoon (talk) 15:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's part of what stumped me. I don't know which upload form to use. But I believe it is a photograph created by Gottfried Helnwein. I'm going to use it on The Golden Age of Grotesque, since he made it for that album in collaboration with Marilyn Manson. -Red marquis (talk) 19:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, as you can see on other works of his uploaded to the 'pedia so far, it's not quite as easy as uploading a piece of cover art. Whereas almost all cover art on Wikipedia is there for the same reason (i.e. to illustrate the album in question), you'll be uploading his artwork for a specific encyclopaedic purpose. Because of this, you'll need to supply a good fair use rationale as well as all the information surrounding it you can; for instance, note its year and the method by which you scanned it. File:Triptych May-June, 1973.jpg is taken from a featured article on art, so it probably stands as a pretty good act to follow. The vital thing is that your reasoning explains explicitly and compellingly why the media is necessary as opposed to it being purely decorative. The honchos at FAC will dissect that assertion to the utmost, so it really needs to be a strong argument which you make. The ethos is that you should avoid, at all times, using in-copyright material where it's unnecessary. I personally think that's a bit of a shame, but the dictum prevails. Do you think your reasons will stand up to that scrutiny? Seegoon (talk) 19:35, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My rationale is its importance to the background and development of the record because, besides showing the collaboration between the two, it was originally intended as the album cover albeit scrapped at the last minute. It was used, instead, to accompany an essay related to the album that was submitted by the musician to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I have reliable sources to back up all the info. Ummm...moment of honesty, I already uploaded the image but I'm pretty sure I got something wrong and I want to do it right. Also, how do you reduce the resolution enough to be acceptable for use here? I have Photoshop but I don't know how to do it. Thanks. -Red marquis (talk) 05:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the uploaded picture: [1]. Did I get it right or do I need to do it again? -Red marquis (talk) 05:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To my eyes, that looks just fine. You may want to add some of the rationale you just told me here to the image description itself, because that'll strengthen its case. The resolution is fine – 300×300 is standard practice for album covers, and this is no different. As I said, it looks just dandy! Seegoon (talk) 13:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I Fezmar9 dub thee Seegoon the King of Post-Metal for all your hard work expanding and maintaining articles within this obscure little genre, and most recently for promoting Wavering Radiant to GA status. Keep up the good work! Fezmar9 (talk) 18:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
BLUSH. You were a big help, in ways explicit and implicit alike. A lot of what is good about that article was stolen from Axe to Fall, so really you should be giving yourself like, half, of this barnstar. You're a champ. Seegoon (talk) 23:46, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Discographies

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Hi, Seegoon.

I was looking at two Featured discographies today, Load Records discography and Willowtip Records discography, and noticed you tagged them both in April with the {{update}} template. Because you didn't discuss adding the tag at the talk pages, editors and readers don't know why the articles need updating. I know it's been 6 months since you added the tags, but can you remember why you did so? Regards, Matthewedwards :  Chat  00:23, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there. User:Fezmar9 directed me to you for scans from Rock-A-Rolla? If it's possible, and not too much trouble, can you provide scans from Rock-A-Rolla Issue #19, specifically Crippled Black Pheonix, Wolves in the Throne Room and any related reviews to those two. Thanks! HrZ (talk) 14:42, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Peer review newsletter #1

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Introduction

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Hello to all! I do not intend to write a regular peer review newsletter but there does occasionally come a time when those interested in contributing to peer review should be contacted, and now is one. I've mailed this out to everyone on the peer review volunteers list, and some editors that have contributed to past discussions. Apologies if I've left you off or contacted you and you didn't want it. Next time there is a newsletter / mass message it will be opt in (here), I'll talk about this below - but first:

  • THANK YOU! I want to thank you for your contributions and for volunteering on the list to help out at peer review. Thank you!
  • Peer review is useful! It's good to have an active peer review process. This is often the way that we help new or developing editors understand our ways, and improve the quality of their editing - so it fills an important and necessary gap between the teahouse (kindly introduction to our Wikiways) and GA and FA reviews (specific standards uphelp according to a set of quality criteria). And we should try and improve this process where possible (automate, simplify) so it can be used and maintained easily.

Updates

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It can get quite lonely tinkering with peer review...
With a bit of effort we can renovate the place to look like this!

Update #1: the peer review volunteers list is changing

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The list is here in case you've forgotten: WP:PRV. Kadane has kindly offered to create a bot that will ping editors on the volunteers list with unanswered reviews in their chosen subject areas every so often. You can choose the time interval by changing the "contact" parameter. Options are "never", "monthly", "quarterly", "halfyearly", and "annually". For example:

  • {{PRV|JohnSmith|History of engineering|contact=monthly}} - if placed in the "History" section, JohnSmith will receive an automatic update every month about unanswered peer reviews relating to history.
  • {{PRV|JaneSmith|Mesopotamian geography, Norwegian fjords|contact=annually}} - if placed in the "Geography" section, JaneSmith will receive an automatic update every yearly about unanswered peer reviews in the geography area.

We can at this stage only use the broad peer review section titles to guide what reviews you'd like, but that's better than nothing! You can also set an interest in multiple separate subject areas that will be updated at different times.

Update #2: a (lean) WikiProject Peer review

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I don't think we need a WikiProject with a giant bureaucracy nor all sorts of whiz-bang features. However over the last few years I've found there are times when it would have been useful to have a list of editors that would like to contribute to discussions about the peer review process (e.g. instructions, layout, automation, simplification etc.). Also, it can get kind of lonely on the talk page as I am (correct me if I'm wrong) the only regular contributor, with most editors moving on after 6 - 12 months.

So, I've decided to create "WikiProject Peer review". If you'd like to contribute to the WikiProject, or make yourself available for future newsletters or contact, please add yourself to the list of members.

Update #3: advertising

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We plan to do some advertising of peer review, to let editors know about it and how to volunteer to help, at a couple of different venues (Signpost, Village pump, Teahouse etc.) - but have been waiting until we get this bot + WikiProject set up so we have a way to help interested editors make more enduring contributions. So consider yourself forewarned!

And... that's it!

I wish you all well on your Wikivoyages, Tom (LT) (talk) 00:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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