User talk:TheBlueHeronofHopewell
July 2024
[edit]Hello SeabrookCommLLC. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.
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Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:SeabrookCommLLC. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=SeabrookCommLLC|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}
. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 16:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jake, I'm trying to post the mandatory disclosure to my user page (that I just created), but I'm having trouble. Is there someone who can help talk me through this? As an employee or Rutgers School of Communication and Information, I'm being paid by the school to help manage two wikipedia pages--one for the current interim dean (what I was attempting to edit) and one for the SC&I general page. Please advise. Thank you! Lorraine Seabrook SeabrookCommLLC (talk) 17:14, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles are not able to be "managed" like a Facebook or Yelp profile. The best course of action is to propose edits on the article talk page. These proposed edits will need to be supported with reliable sources. As a professional, you will be held to a higher standard and are expected to be familiar with our policies. As you can see below, accounts cannot represent an organization, so as a first step you will need to pick a new username. Feel free to let me know what you would like your new username to be, and I will help you proceed. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 17:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I really appreciate your help, Jake! I put in for a new user name: Blue Heron
- I also disclosed that I'm being paid. Is this enough?
- As for helping the dean edit her page, when you say that I can suggest prposed edits through the article talk page, can I upload a new, updated document for what she'd like her page to include?
- Thanks again! Lorraine SeabrookCommLLC (talk) 17:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have formulated an unblock request for you below. It would be good if you replaced the reason with your own. It is very important that you read WP:COI in it's entirety. You will not be able to replace the article with a preferred version. If everyone could simply write their own article, Wikipedia would not have much value as an encyclopedia. Instead, you will need to propose small, incremental changes. You will also need to be very patient while these proposed changes are being reviewed. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 18:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Jake. I read the COI and have another question for you. While I'm happy to propose small, incremental changes to the dean's page at her request, would it be better for her to create her own account and make the changes to the page herself since she is the one guiding every change?
- And as far as updating the Rutgers School of Communication and Information's school wikipedia page, what would you recommend as the best course of action? Is that something I should take on and propose small changes to that page one section at a time or is there a better way for the school to update its page?
- Thank you! Lorraine 71.168.164.97 (talk) 18:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- The dean is, of course, free to create an account- but they would need to do the exact same things you need to do. 331dot (talk) 18:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would urge you to read WP:BOSS, and have the dean or other superiors at your college read it too. 331dot (talk) 18:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have formulated an unblock request for you below. It would be good if you replaced the reason with your own. It is very important that you read WP:COI in it's entirety. You will not be able to replace the article with a preferred version. If everyone could simply write their own article, Wikipedia would not have much value as an encyclopedia. Instead, you will need to propose small, incremental changes. You will also need to be very patient while these proposed changes are being reviewed. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 18:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles are not able to be "managed" like a Facebook or Yelp profile. The best course of action is to propose edits on the article talk page. These proposed edits will need to be supported with reliable sources. As a professional, you will be held to a higher standard and are expected to be familiar with our policies. As you can see below, accounts cannot represent an organization, so as a first step you will need to pick a new username. Feel free to let me know what you would like your new username to be, and I will help you proceed. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 17:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable, regardless of the username that you choose. Additionally, if your contributions to Wikipedia form all or part of work for which you are, or expect to be, paid or compensated in any way, you must disclose who is paying you to edit here. You may also read our FAQ for article subjects.
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TheBlueHeronofHopewell (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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As noted above, the article about your dean will not say what your dean (or college) might prefer, as the purpose of a Wikipedia article is to summarize what independent reliable sources say about the topic, not what it says about itself. The proper place for your dean to have their preferred description of themselves is the college website/personal website/social media. You are welcome to make edit requests to correct errors or propose new content that preferably summarizes independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 18:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)}}
- I see, and that is what I was attempting to do for the dean, as her page is from 2015 and does not reflect her current title, employer, or latest research. I also see that your request on my behalf to unblock me was denied, so what do I do now? Thank you! Lorraine 71.168.164.97 (talk) 18:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Remember to be logged in when you post. All you need to do to get unblocked is propose a new username that is available. You can run a potential choice through Special:CentralAuth; if no results come up, the choice is available(though this does not detect close variations that render a choice unusable) 331dot (talk) 18:13, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
TheBlueHeronofHopewell (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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One moment. Please place new edits at the bottom for chronological flow. This may be easier to do if you click "edit" and not "reply". The reply function is imperfect and not useful in every situation. 331dot (talk) 18:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I've tried to use the talk feature on Dafna Lemish's page to suggest edits but I'm not sure it's visible. Is there a way to check on this and know if the process is being reviewed? Thank you! TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 13:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have moved your comment above into its own section for the sake of clarity, since we are no longer discussing your unblock request. Thank you for making an edit request. You formatted the template markup correctly, and as long as the edit request template is being displayed, your request is in the queue and someone will respond. As I mentioned before, this will take some time and you will need to be very patient. As I mentioned before, you need to propose small, incremental changes that are supported with references. I advise you to significantly reduce the scope of your request, as it is certain to be declined in its current form. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 14:24, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for moving the comment to the above section. When you suggest reducing the scope of the request, my edits are minor, all things considered, but I thought it would be easier to incorporate them into one complete page. Are you suggesting that I make requests by section, or even by sentences? I really want this to work and to absolutely respect the rules, so I appreciate your guidance. TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 14:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that is exactly what I'm suggesting. You can break your request into sections, such as "In the biography section, replace the sentence 'example' with 'example,'" followed by a rationale for the proposed change and a citation. This will make it much easier for the person reviewing your request to see what you are asking them to change and to respond to the content of your request. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 16:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jake,
- I took your advice and went back in and submitted edits in the format you suggested, along with citations. Would you be able to see what I've submitted and let me know if you see any problems? I understand that there are almost 200 requests in front of me, but I'd like to at least know that I've got all my ducks in a row.
- Thank you! Lorraine TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 16:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your efforts. I cannot guarantee that all of your requested edits will be accepted, but it is certainly much more likely now than it was before. If you want to make things easier for the editor who reviews your request, you could format it so that each request is a separate bullet point. Bullets are represented with asterisks. You could also format the citations using {{cite}} and then place {{reflist-talk}} at the end of the list, before your signature. Finally, supporting your request with secondary sources as much as possible would strengthen it even further. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 17:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jake, I've added the asterisks and the {{reflist-talk}} at the end. I thought the citations were correct as is--is there something I need to do differently? Thanks! TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 17:12, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your efforts. I cannot guarantee that all of your requested edits will be accepted, but it is certainly much more likely now than it was before. If you want to make things easier for the editor who reviews your request, you could format it so that each request is a separate bullet point. Bullets are represented with asterisks. You could also format the citations using {{cite}} and then place {{reflist-talk}} at the end of the list, before your signature. Finally, supporting your request with secondary sources as much as possible would strengthen it even further. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 17:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that is exactly what I'm suggesting. You can break your request into sections, such as "In the biography section, replace the sentence 'example' with 'example,'" followed by a rationale for the proposed change and a citation. This will make it much easier for the person reviewing your request to see what you are asking them to change and to respond to the content of your request. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 16:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for moving the comment to the above section. When you suggest reducing the scope of the request, my edits are minor, all things considered, but I thought it would be easier to incorporate them into one complete page. Are you suggesting that I make requests by section, or even by sentences? I really want this to work and to absolutely respect the rules, so I appreciate your guidance. TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 14:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Check out the documentation at WP:REFB. You can see how it works by reviewing the source code in the existing article. For example, instead of just pasting the url link after a sentence in the article, you would use something like: <ref>{{cite web|title=Title of source|url=http://www.example.com/my_great_source|website=example.com|publisher=[[Example Publisher]]|accessdate=July 29, 2024}}</ref> ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jake, I believe I've made all the requested edits and done the citations accurately. When I do an error check, it shows no errors. When I do a preview, it shows no errors. I attempted to upload an updated photo of the dean; this is her approved faculty photo and the copyright belongs to the Rutgers School of Communication and Information. Would you be able to help me with this? I don't own the copyright. Thank you! TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 18:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jake,
- Would you be able to let me know about the photo uploading protocol when Rutgers has the copyright, not me?
- Thanks!
- Lorraine 71.168.164.97 (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- You will need to be authorized by Rutgers to release the photograph under a free license. If this is the case, then you can follow these instructions. If you do not have this authorization, then you unfortunately cannot upload the image. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 16:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jake, would this be the proper license. I have permission from Rutgers to act as their represenative:
- © 2022 by is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International. To view a copy of this license, visit https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 18:31, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but you need to follow the instructions in my link. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:56, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- You will need to be authorized by Rutgers to release the photograph under a free license. If this is the case, then you can follow these instructions. If you do not have this authorization, then you unfortunately cannot upload the image. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 16:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of File:Dafna lemish.jpeg
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- Why did you upload this image under a {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} license? Only the copyright holder of a photo can release their work under such a license, and the copyright holder of a photo is, in principle, considered to be the photographer who takes it. You stated "Dafna Lemish image © 2022 by Rutgers School of Communication and Information; Mel Evans, photographer" in the file's description and the EXIF data also verifies this. Are you Mel Evans or did you find the photo released by Evans under said license on some website? There's no indication here that it's been released as such by Rutgers University's School of Communication and Information. Did you find the photo on some other website? -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- This file has been approved. May I add it to the page for Dafna Lemish? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dafna_lemish.jpeg TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 14:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- That should be fine, thanks for your patience. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 15:02, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Jake. Do you know if all my other edits have been approved yet or are they still being reviewed? TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 15:13, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm trying to upload the new image but I don't see a way to do that. I'm able to put in updates to the text but will the image automatically populare from the this file? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dafna_lemish.jpeg TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 15:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Please see the conversation on Talk:Dafna Lemish, where editors have asked you some questions. You can ask the editors there to assist you with replacing the image. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 15:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh my goodness, I had no idea that there was a message waiting for me until I had an email this morning about the image approval. I've replied to the person and am feeling very frustrated that all the work I've put into following all the steps to update the inaccurate existing page is hitting another roadblock. Is there anything you can do to help, Jake? You've been so helpful! TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 15:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I can certainly see how having the edit request declined would be frustrating. You spent a lot of time preparing it and then waiting. You can place the page on your watch list and then turn on "Email me when a page or a file on my watchlist is changed" in preferences to stay abreast of replies in the future.
- Let's try a very simple request this time. I suggest you start a new section on the article talk page with the edit request template. You can request to replace the existing image on with the new one and then include just the very first part of the request you got declined, about Lemish's current job title, along with a citation. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:13, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding, Jake. I put the page on my watch list, so that should take care of notifications. As for the simple request you recommend, I'm not sure how to do that. I'm on the page, but don't see how to start a new section. TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 19:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, it's the "add topic" button. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I saw that you added a new topic. You'll need to add the {{edit COI}} template at the top, so that it will be added to the list and reviewed. I would suggest formatting the references the same way as before in the new section so that the editor won't have to go looking for them. Lastly, you may wish to change the wording of "she is an author and editor of numerous books, journal articles, book chapters, encyclopedia entries, reviews, and commentaries" to something more neutral such as "her scholarship deals with" or "she has written about." ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 17:34, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jake,
- Would you be so kind as to check my latest request. I'm really trying to make this as accurate as possible and adhere to all the rules, but something must be done. The current wikipedia page for Dafna Lemish is inaccurate and out of date. That surely can't be what Wikipedia wants. Help!
- Thanks,
- Lorraine 71.168.164.97 (talk) 14:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- I see that you have added another extremely long edit request. I would recommend that you remove it for now. The reason for this is that if there is a problem with any part of your request, the entire request is going to be denied, and we can't expect the reviewer to give you detailed feedback on such a long request with so many different parts. The best thing to do would be to work on incorporating the feedback I gave you above into the shorter request by adding the request template and formatting the citations properly. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 04:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jake, I don't know how to delete it. I sent a request to update the first paragraph to Axad12. Will that suffice?
- User talk:Axad12#Dafna Lemish page updates TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 20:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I see that you have added another extremely long edit request. I would recommend that you remove it for now. The reason for this is that if there is a problem with any part of your request, the entire request is going to be denied, and we can't expect the reviewer to give you detailed feedback on such a long request with so many different parts. The best thing to do would be to work on incorporating the feedback I gave you above into the shorter request by adding the request template and formatting the citations properly. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 04:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I saw that you added a new topic. You'll need to add the {{edit COI}} template at the top, so that it will be added to the list and reviewed. I would suggest formatting the references the same way as before in the new section so that the editor won't have to go looking for them. Lastly, you may wish to change the wording of "she is an author and editor of numerous books, journal articles, book chapters, encyclopedia entries, reviews, and commentaries" to something more neutral such as "her scholarship deals with" or "she has written about." ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 17:34, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, it's the "add topic" button. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding, Jake. I put the page on my watch list, so that should take care of notifications. As for the simple request you recommend, I'm not sure how to do that. I'm on the page, but don't see how to start a new section. TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 19:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh my goodness, I had no idea that there was a message waiting for me until I had an email this morning about the image approval. I've replied to the person and am feeling very frustrated that all the work I've put into following all the steps to update the inaccurate existing page is hitting another roadblock. Is there anything you can do to help, Jake? You've been so helpful! TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 15:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Please see the conversation on Talk:Dafna Lemish, where editors have asked you some questions. You can ask the editors there to assist you with replacing the image. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 15:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- That should be fine, thanks for your patience. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 15:02, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- This file has been approved. May I add it to the page for Dafna Lemish? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dafna_lemish.jpeg TheBlueHeronofHopewell (talk) 14:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)