Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alyssa Jones

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Delete arguments have the upperhand as mostly based on policy reasons. DGGs was the strongest keep argument but lacked sources. The asserted google sources were discounted as challenged and merely an assertionof sources rather then specific ones Spartaz ^Humbug! 19:25, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alyssa Jones

Character who primarily appeared in one movie (Chasing Amy) made a cameo in two others. No secondary sources to support notability IRK!_{Leave me a note or two} 17:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same criteria:

Keep A Google Search shows that there is plenty of information available about Alyssa Jones. Sources can be added to support notability. (Meanwhile you could consider the verify tag?) Anti venin 18:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Many of those search results do not talk about Alyssa independently; she is simply mentioned as the main character in synopses. Also, it's been stated that WP:GHITS should be avoided in discussions for deletion. IRK!_{Leave me a note or two} 18:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That google search by itself doesn't prove a thing unless you're prepared to pull some decent hits from it. Sift through all of the trivial mentions, cast lists, eshops, etc. and I'll bet there isn't nearly as much there as you think. PC78 (talk) 16:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. —PC78 (talk) 18:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into View Askewniverse, which has a list of Kevin Smith characters. With the exception of Jay and Silent Bob, these characters aren't notable enough to merit articles on their own. Alyssa Jones is nothing more than plot synopsis, and Holden McNeil is barely that. Rklear (talk) 18:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep one of the major characters of an important film. There should be sufficient sources in the reviews, as she could hardly not have been mentioned. DGG (talk) 23:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What reviews...? Movie reviews mention *all* of the characters... IRK!_{Leave me a note or two} 02:22, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are we just presuming here, or can you provide links to any reviews that offer substantial coverage? PC78 (talk) 16:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge both per Rklear. These articles are just plot summary with no evidence of real-world notabilty. PC78 (talk) 16:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 20:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or merge. No evidence of real world notability. McWomble (talk) 05:16, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge both along with the other character articles on View_Askewniverse#Notable_characters. Issues with individual WP:NOTABILITY, WP:NOT#PLOT and WP:WAF, but a character list is a good middleground. – sgeureka ^t•c 12:09, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge. There's not a whiff of a claim of real world notability for this character.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep An obvious keep. Amelia Nymph (talk) 07:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. An obvious delete: no real-world influence, no major discussions outside of plot synopsis, etc. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 09:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Rklear. JuJube (talk) 11:56, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.