Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elope (album)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Tone 10:38, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elope (album)

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This article has been open for an extremely long time but fails to meet notability. "Us against the world" was released as a single under myspace records. Since then Milian has moved labels and even changed the name of the album from Dream in Color to Elope. This page should have never been created because under WP:Notability (music) it would fail. As a general rule album's need a cover art, track listing and confirmed release date. This album has none of these and the details are ambiguous. One source says she was dropped from her old record label whilst another said they parted ways on mutual agreement. Wikipedia content is supposed to be facual and encyclopedic and so in its current state this page deserves to be removed until a new release date is confirmed and a new single too. This is becoming too much of a WP:Crystal. Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. As the article's primary contributor, I have made sure that every statement in the article is fully sourced. I do not see how the article is violating WP:Crystal, as it already has a fully-fledged production section, and more reliable sources than most released albums. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 08:18, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

comment, for albums to have their own page they should have a track listing, cover-art, confirmed released date and charted singles. Of these criteria this album has just one of those. Much of the information is confusing and based on secondary sources. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:07, 7 September 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Where are you getting this information from? WP:Notability (music) says that, in general, "an album should not have an independent article until its title, track listing and release date have all been publicly confirmed by the artist or their record label." Now, of these, we only know the title, but we also know that the album will be released late this year, or early next year. It is also stated that "in a few special cases, an unreleased album may qualify for an advance article if there is sufficient verifiable and properly referenced information about it", which I believe applies here. There is definitely enough verifiable information in the page to support it. Also, you claim that there is confusing information, but what is confusing? You said before that, "One source says she was dropped from her old record label whilst another said they parted ways on mutual agreement", but that hardly makes an argument. Of course there are differences. How is it my fault that different sources reported different things? I already fixed this a while ago to make sure everything was consistent in this article. Finally, if you have a look at Wikipedia:No original research, you'll see that we are supposed to use secondary sources. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 06:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As far as unreleased albums go, this is properly and comprehensively sourced. In fact, it is one of the most well-sourced album articles I have seen – including albums that are already out. – B.hotep •talk• 10:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.