Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kokoro: The Heart Within
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The result was no consensus defaulting to keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:04, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
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I can't find a single source to substantiate any of the claims made on this article about awards won or nominated for, and I did everything I could think of to do so. I searched the Emmy Awards site for Kokoro, Heart Within, Scott Featherstone, and just Featherstone, and came up with utterly nothing. Rotten Tomatoes has nothing for the box set, or for the series as a whole on a search. Newspapers.com and Google produce TV schedules and sales listings, but no reviews or critical commentary. JSTOR results are muddied by the fact that "kokoro" exists as a Shinto concept outside of this title, but even adding Featherstone just produced false positives. Zero reliable results for searching " kokoro "gold medal" "new york film festival" " - the only thing that comes up is LDSFilm.com which borrows substantially from the author's own site. There's not even an IMDB page for it.
Tldr; this exists but isn't as notable or award-winning as it claims to be, and in the absence of reliable in-depth independent sources, we can't maintain an article - especially considering the inflated claims of noteworthiness. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 16:23, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. IntoThinAir (talk) 16:32, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. I haven't really tried to evaluate whether this meets the inclusion bar, but the Emmy nomination (which is probably not sufficient in and of itself) is real. Art Wilder and Scott Featherstone received a 1994 News & Documentary Emmy Award nomination for Outstanding Individual Achievement in a Craft: Cinematographers for their work on Kokoro, as noted in the press release (p. 20) announcing that year's nominees. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 17:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- That's so bizarre. I tried like a dozen different searches on the Emmy website and came up with nothing. I guess it doesn't take the smaller Emmies into account, only the Primetime ones? In any case, I don't think one lesser-known Emmy nom for cinematography can really salvage the notability claim. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 17:33, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 19:34, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete A list item in an AP Wire story on PBS nominees: [1], otherwise generally mentioned as Scott Featherstone's sole claim to fame in discussions of his other work, e.g. "this trite melodrama from local filmmaker Scott Featherstone (the Emmy-nominated documentary "Kokoro: The Heart Within")" [2]. There is a recommendation to use the documentary in teaching, but it's at a think tank's site: [3]. Overall it doesn't add up to sufficient notability to keep, but willing to reconsider if significant coverage emerges. Bakazaka (talk) 19:59, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep -- I think even if we want to say that minor emmys nominations shouldn't confer notability (which I don't personally agree with), I would say that a minor emmy nomination coupled with prizes at film festivals would. matt91486 (talk) 20:09, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Matt91486: How did you verify those prizes? Bakazaka (talk) 18:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- For the record, I haven't been able to find any reliable list of 1995ish New York Film Festival awards. There are several different types of awards that the NYFF gives out; assuming good faith that this film received the claimed awards, what kind of award they were would make a big difference in determining whether they contribute directly to notability. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 18:33, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Matt91486: How did you verify those prizes? Bakazaka (talk) 18:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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