Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lady Eliza Manners

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to David Manners, 11th Duke of Rutland#Marriage and children. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:44, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Eliza Manners

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Third daughter of David Manners, 11th Duke of Rutland, with no particular claim to notability. Fails WP:BIO. Was caught speeding once, and a few outlets reported about the fact that she claimed financial hardship in the process, but it remains WP:BLP1E.

I'm going to spare other editors of deprecated/unreliable tabloids at RSP that aren't in the article already, but feel free to check Google News for that. For the rest, source assessment of the sources in the article and other relevant coverage I found follows.

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
Do Manners Maketh Women at Belvoir Castle?". Countryandtownhouse.co.uk. 21 September 2015. Retrieved 25 November 2017.	value not understood	?	"Eliza is musically talented and has inherited her mother’s voice", and she has a tattoo. Not SIGCOV.	✘ No
Reginato, James. "The Manners Sisters Are Real-Life Crawley Sisters of London". Vanityfair.com. Retrieved 25 November 2017.	value not understood	value not understood	"Eliza helped man the little gift shop", "Eliza is now entering her second year at Newcastle University, where she is studying business management and pursuing her interests in acting and singing".	✘ No
Woodham, Lucy (18 February 2019). "Who is Lady Eliza Manners? The Newcastle student who lives in a massive castle". The Tab. Retrieved 2 July 2021.	value not understood	Student tabloid, buzzfeed-like content ("No seriously you should see this castle")	value not understood	✘ No
"Violet, Alice and Eliza Manners are lacking just that: manners". Afr.com. 26 February 2015. Retrieved 25 November 2017.	value not understood	value not understood	Passing mention: "Lady Violet lives with her sisters, Lady Alice, 19, and 17-year-old Lady Eliza"; "Ladies Violet, Alice and Eliza declined to comment."	✘ No
Turner, Camilla (20 February 2015). "Duke of Rutland's daughters infuriate neighbours with wild 'all-night' parties". Telegraph.co.uk. Retrieved 25 November 2017.	value not understood	Per WP:RSP	Two passing mentions: "17-year-old Lady Eliza", and a quote from a disgruntled neighbour regarding Eliza's apology.	✘ No
"Lady Eliza Manners's 18th-birthday party". Tatler.com. Retrieved 25 November 2017.	value not understood	value not understood	Photo album	✘ No
Kirk, Tristan (28 October 2021). "Duke's daughter fined £50 for speeding due to 'financial hardship'". www.standard.co.uk. Retrieved 29 October 2021.	value not understood	Per WP:RSP: there is no consensus on the reliability of the Evening Standard.	WP:MILL: she was fined for speeding, and she said she was in a financial hardship situation and that the full fine would cause her "cash flow issues".	✘ No
Great-granddaughter of A Very British Scandal's Duchess of Argyll launches interior design business. Daily Record.	value not understood	? See last discussion at WP:RSN; tabloid journalism	4 sentences about Eliza Manners that aren't quotes. Most of the article is about her mother	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Pilaz (talk) 22:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions. Pilaz (talk) 22:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Pilaz (talk) 22:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Pilaz (talk) 22:36, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:39, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to David Manners, 11th Duke of Rutland#Marriage and children per CHEAP, and an unrelated TROUT to the 'royal media' for boring the world with details of her apparently teacup/monocle-breaking driving offense for yet another 'she did this, now let's snoop through her Insta because duke parent' 'story'. Nate • (chatter) 01:54, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. She is a plausible search term, but we really don't need articles like this. RobinCarmody (talk) 19:44, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep she passes WP:GNG .GorgonaJS (talk) 23:33, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:JUSTAPOLICY. Pilaz (talk) 23:37, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to David Manners, 11th Duke of Rutland#Marriage and children as above. Normally this bothers me, especially during Women's History Month, but there isn't enough on which to build a standalone. Star Mississippi 00:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I have gender in mind during AfD discussions (this is actually the first woman bio I nominate for deletion), but I have to admit I totally forgot about Women's history month in the US and elsewhere - it's not observed in my country. I'll try to keep it in mind going forward, though. Pilaz (talk) 01:21, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.