Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stuart Robbins

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy keep and expand. Nominator has withdrawn listing because there is clear evidence that a biographical article is merited on this topic although it needs to be expanded with more references. For further reasoning on this non-admin close see also the essay Wikipedia:Snowball clause. Closer undertakes to add the references referred to into the article. TS 17:37, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stuart Robbins

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Withdraw.~~Non-notable per WP:NBASKETBALL. Stub article relies exclusively on obituary column for sourcing.~~ Uncle Dick (talk) 23:47, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The obituary was by BBC Sport, so I don't see a problem here. According to another article he "was a professional player in England, Germany, Belgium and the USA before his move to Ireland." (Western Mail). There are similar announcements in the Irish Times and other papers. I just don't see any circumstances under which we would want to delete this. He made a big splash in several countries and died suddenly. --TS 00:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By the way I'm not a fan of the concept of "notability" or of the notability guidelines, but this chap seems to amply fulfil the requirements of the cited guideline, to wit criterion 1: "Have appeared in one game in the original American Basketball Association, Asociación de Clubs de Baloncesto, Euroleague, National Basketball Association, National Basketball League (Australia), National Basketball League (United States), Serie A, Women's National Basketball Association, or a similar major professional sports league." The main basketball league of the United Kingdom is the BBL. He went on to play a season in the Irish Superleague, another qualifying premier league. And with the Belgian team, Bree, he played Euroleague Basketball. So to say he doesn't make the guideline is wrong on at least three counts. This chap qualified at the highest professional level in two different countries and across the continent of Europe. --TS 14:34, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You make a good point. I would like to withdraw this Afd per TS. The article still needs some cleanup work to improve its references and make clear Robbins' claim to notability. Uncle Dick (talk) 16:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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