Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas W. Campbell

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas W. Campbell

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Not notable. Self-published author with no third-party sources available to refer to him. Crank with a Youtube channel. cagliost (talk) 15:47, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:30, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a non-notable self-published writer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:55, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notable exponent of the simulation hypothesis. His paper "On Testing the Simulation Theory"^[1] was published in the International Journal of Quantum Foundations, a peer-reviewed journal whose Editorial Board includes Roger Penrose. His YouTube channel has over 7.5 million views, and he raised over $230,000 in a Kickstarter to fund experimental tests of his theory. The experiments are now being carried out by a team at California State Polytechnic University, Pomona.^[2] Tim Smith (talk) 01:28, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On it's own, having some scientific papers published does not make someone notable. Neither does having a fairly popular YouTube channel. Neither does running a moderately successful Kickstarter. Are these together enough to establish notability? I don't think so. There appears to be a total or near-total lack of third party sources about him. cagliost (talk) 20:16, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I also take issue with the claim he is a notable proponent of the simulation hypothesis. Lots of people are proponents of the simulation hypothesis, but to make him a notable proponent of the simulation hypothesis, there would have to be third party sources saying so. cagliost (talk) 20:17, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 01:20, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 03:15, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~ Delete. Seems plenty notable to me, given authored books and a deep reach to viewers on YouTube. We shouldn't delete notable articles just because we think they are a "crank" (explicit hoaxes aside, of course!) -- φ OnePt618^Talk φ 05:48, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: After reading the other arguments, I'm persuaded that this should be a delete.-- φ OnePt618^Talk φ 02:03, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Self authoring books and YouTube views don't make one notable. It's unfortunate the original nominator used the term "crank" to describe the person though. As it kind of taints this. As can be seen by the keep vote above. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:17, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (from nominator): article currently has no third-party sources (except socialblade.com youtube statistics). Please can those advocating Keep add some third-party sources? cagliost (talk) 10:23, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

^ Campbell, Tom; Owhadi, Houman; Sauvageau, Joe; Watkinson, David (June 17, 2017). "On Testing the Simulation Theory". International Journal of Quantum Foundations. 3 (3): 78–99.
^ Updates | Center for the Unification of Science And Consciousness

Delete per nom. This reads like an advertorial for the subject's YouTube channel and his paid workshops. Clearly no third-party sources referenced nor can any be found in a search. An incomplete effort toward a Ph.D. is not notable, even though it is included in the Wiki article. Fails WP:GNG and does not come close to meeting WP:BIO. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 20:06, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
His name is in an old NASA document.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20090014192/downloads/20090014192.pdf

"THOMAS W. CAMPBELL is currently consulting in the field of Probabilistic Design Analysis for NASA. He has over 36 years of experience working with the Department of Defense in several fields, including systems engineering; technology development; physicsbased modeling and simulation"

I am not sure it refers to him, but he said he worked for NASA 145.87.242.203 (talk) 18:48, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:ACADEMIC: 4 citations for the paper specified above. No relevant positions held. No SIGCOV...no coverage at all, in fact, so also fails the GNG. Therefore delete. PK650 (talk) 08:30, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:PROF and discussion above by AuthorAuthor. A proponent of a fringe theory does not inherit notability. We are not a publisher of original research. Bearian (talk) 17:35, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Campbell, Tom; Owhadi, Houman; Sauvageau, Joe; Watkinson, David (June 17, 2017). "On Testing the Simulation Theory". International Journal of Quantum Foundations. 3 (3): 78–99.

[2] Updates | Center for the Unification of Science And Consciousness

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