Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 1
October 1
[edit]Category:Iranian vocalists
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 10#Category:Iranian vocalists
Category:People who known as Liberator
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. DrKay (talk) 20:57, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, plus it's appalling English. No Great Shaker (talk) 22:26, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: there is a list on the disambiguation page Liberator. – Fayenatic London 07:30, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Unneeded - arbitrary - bad English -- Alexf(talk) 23:28, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
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Footballers by city in Israel
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge all containing fewer than five articles, rename the rest to "footballers" (with some support and no opposition here, and could be done speedily anyway under WP:C2C), and splitting Category:Footballers from Jaffa from Category:Footballers from Tel Aviv. For the record, in order to leave backlinks to the discussion, the renames are as follows.
- – Fayenatic London 22:37, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Football players from I'billin to Category:People from I'billin
- Nominator's rationale: A series of WP:SMALLCAT of footballers. Footballer categories should really only be split from large Sportspeople by city categories, which in and of themselves should be split from large people by city categories Librarian from Liberia (talk) 20:42, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Category:Football players from Acre, Israel - merge to Category:People from Acre, Israel- Category:Football players from Afula - merge to Category:People from Afula
- Category:Football players from Arraba, Israel - merge to Category:People from Arraba, Israel
Category:Football players from Beit She'an - merge to Category:People from Beit She'an- Category:Football players from Bi'ina - merge to Category:People from Bi'ina
- Category:Football players from Daliyat al-Karmel - merge to Category:People from Daliyat al-Karmel
- Category:Football players from Dimona - merge to Category:People from Dimona
- Category:Football players from Eilat - merge to Category:People from Eilat
- Category:Football players from Giv'at Shmuel - merge to Category:People from Giv'at Shmuel
- Category:Football players from Givatayim - merge to Category:People from Givatayim
- Category:Football players from HaHotrim - merge to Category:People from HaHotrim
- Category:Football players from Hatzor HaGlilit - merge to Category:People from Hatzor HaGlilit
Category:Football players from Hod HaSharon - merge to Category:People from Hod HaSharon- Category:Football players from Jadeidi-Makr - merge to Category:People from Jadeidi-Makr
- Category:Football players from Kabul, Israel - merge to Category:People from Kabul, Israel
- Category:Football players from Kafr Manda - merge to Category:People from Kafr Manda
- Category:Football players from Kafr Qara - merge to Category:People from Kafr Qara
- Category:Football players from Kafr Qasim - merge to Category:People from Kafr Qasim
Category:Football players from Karmiel - merge to Category:People from Karmiel- Category:Football players from Katzrin - merge to Category:People from Katzrin
I've lost patience with the copy and paste now but you get the picture. Consider any subcategory within Category:Footballers by city or town in Israel to be nominated if it contains under 10 articles. Rationale as outlined above. Creator doesn't seem to mind categories being deleted, and one gets the impression from the note at the top that it happens quite a lot to her. [1] Librarian from Liberia (talk) 20:55, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Support merging per nom. Dhawangupta (talk) 04:54, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Support merging any with fewer than five articles, which is the usual cutoff point in such discussions. They should be doubly upmerged to the proposed categories and Category:Footballers in Israel. Keep the rest. Grutness...wha? 07:57, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- A double upmerge is not needed, the articles are already in players per club categories in Israel. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:23, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- I note that the articles within that hierarchy are also diffused by league, and to Category:Israeli footballers where appropriate. – Fayenatic London 21:01, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- A double upmerge is not needed, the articles are already in players per club categories in Israel. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:23, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Procedural comment @Librarian from Liberia: all category pages should be tagged. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:23, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:23, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Support - they should all be 'footballers' anyway as the parent is Category:Footballers by city or town in Israel. Oculi (talk) 10:11, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 08:25, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Support merging any with fewer than five articles, as long as they are tagged, obviously, and keep but rename the rest to Category:Footballers from CITY as is standard naming convention. GiantSnowman 08:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Support GiantSnowman. Rename parent to Category:Footballers by place in Israel (unnecessary to say populated place"). Peterkingiron (talk) 15:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Support merge except For any categories with 6 or more entries. I agree with Grutness above....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:49, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- These have only just been tagged, omitting 4 which have 6+ members. Let's leave this another week. – Fayenatic London 12:31, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: The entire category tree with 81 subcategories has only been tagged in its entirety just now.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac15 20:39, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per above. No Great Shaker (talk) 22:25, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Revised nomination to merge (with number of pages in category included for reference):
- Thank you for adding the remainder of the tree. Anything said before applies to the whole tree, obviously. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- I have updated the numbers in a few cases where it makes a difference. – Fayenatic London 20:55, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Male superheroes
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 10#Category:Male superheroes
Category:High school football competitions in the United States
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 10#Category:High school football competitions in the United States
Category:Austrian royalty
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: keep and remove headnote (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:38, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Either rename or delete. Why have a category about what they did not do? Very strange. If retained, the name needs to reflect the weird scope. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:58, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep and convert, as far as possible, into a holding category for its many subcats. Taking a few of the 21 articles as examples, the likes of Anne of Austria, Queen of Poland, Anna of Austria, Queen of Spain and others are members of Category:Austrian princesses, a subcat of Category:Austrian royalty and should be removed from this on the basis of parent/child conflict. Mayerling incident doesn't belong in this category – it is well-categorised elsewhere as a scandal and a historical event. Haven't looked closely at all the articles but most, if not all, can surely be (or already are) adequately recategorised. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:23, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- But surely the name as it stands is almost entirely misleading. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:32, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- In relation to its sub-categories, I don't think it is. I agree it isn't right for the current set of articles it holds, which is why I think the articles should if possible be recategorised, leaving only the subcats in this. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:51, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - it is the category inclusion text which should be removed. This was a bizarre addition after the cfd 2007 May 22#Category:Non-ruling Austrian royalty: the text from the merged category has no bearing on the target category. Oculi (talk) 13:55, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Oculi. The headnote needs to be removed, as it is not helpful. It has rulers of Austria as a subcat, which means that the rulers ARE in. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:02, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Historians of Rockaway, Queens
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:12, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Propose upmerging Category:Historians of Rockaway, Queens to Category:Historians of New York City
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT and, as it happens, one of its two articles, Alfred H. Bellot is at AfD. No Great Shaker (talk) 09:46, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Upmerge to Category:Historians of New York City. Oculi (talk) 13:45, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Amended nomination from delete to upmerge, per Oculi. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:54, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Upmerge per SMALL CAT. Vincent F. Seyfried is well-categorised. The other is up for AFD, but if kept could be given additional categories. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:06, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
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