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Wikipedia is not a guide and not a dictionary. While this term is clearly popular on Wikipedia evidenced by pageviews, I was unable to find two sources to establish WP:GNG.

Sources I could find:

[1] - anonymous author and appearance of a blog.
[2] - blog.
[3] - blog.
[4] - potentially reliable for supporting factual claims but is not clearly a reliable source for establishing notability.
The listed citation in the article refers to [5] which appears a primary source (although I do not have access to a copy). Darcyisverycute (talk) 13:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Lifting equipment, which is already a very short article that could use substance of this type. BD2412 T 15:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. ThatIPEditor ^{Talk · Contribs} 10:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andrzej Gajec

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Previous PROD by User:Mccapra was deleted. Subject is simply not notable--being mayor of a small city does not confer notability, no secondary sourcing proving notability is provided, and the two short web articles linked, one of which is simply an obit, don't give any indication that the man lived a life that made him notable. Drmies (talk) 14:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Engineering, and Poland. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I understand the concerns raised about Andrzej Gajec's notability, but I believe the article should be kept. Serving as the mayor of Stalowa Wola for several years gives him a certain local prominence, which is relevant within the context of Polish municipal politics. Although his political career may not have garnered significant national attention, his role in a city of this size is still noteworthy and reflects a level of civic responsibility. Paradygmaty (talk) 15:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per my PROD nomination. Does not pass WP:NPOL and not otherwise notable. Mccapra (talk) 16:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Small town mayor for 3 yrs in the late 20th Century doesn't give you notability. Sources simply confirm this person held the post and I don't find anything about them otherwise. Oaktree b (talk) 17:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Being a mayor is not inherently notable (and certainly not for a small place with a population of less than 60,000). His certain local prominence is not an indication of notability. Fails WP:BIO. Meters (talk) 06:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Davide Lombardi

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A draft that was moved into mainspace. It's mostly sourced with press releases. A WP:BEFORE search failed. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 02:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV (barely). There definitely needs to be some serious pruning of bad promotional sources and writing, reformatting of the article, editing for encyclopedic tone, etc. However, there are four articles among the references which are independent significant coverage about Davide Lombardi; three of which are in the LightSoundJournal, which is a professional publication for light and audio engineers, and one of which is from an Italian media source. He works as a sound engineer for notable artists, so I am leaning on the keep side.4meter4 (talk) 03:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4 That's a valid point; however, a reminder to anyone else reading this that Lombardi doesn't inherit notability from the people he works with. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 04:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete They are all interviews - and in trade media, at that. The other sources are blogs or references to events where the subject has worked. Doesn't pass WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Consulting Engineering Center - Sajdi and partners

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Fails Wikipedia:Notability (Organizations and companies) as I can't find any good sources for the subject. I also believe that the user who created the page (User:Engineerconsultant) might have a conflict of interest due to their name. Gaismagorm (talk) 19:02, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete looks like a blatant WP:PROMO. LibStar (talk) 23:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kayraktepe Dam

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Seems to be doubt about whether this will actually be built https://www.silifkegazetesi.net/2024/10/03/devletin-bosa-giden-milyonlari-ve-yatirimlari-ne-olacak/

At the moment I don’t think it is notable Chidgk1 (talk) 16:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify per WP:CRYSTAL/WP:TOOSOON. Currently fails WP:GNG. It may become notable and it might not. It really all depends on whether it gets built. This could incubate in draft space.4meter4 (talk) 17:19, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is more support for draftification.
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fine by me Chidgk1 (talk) 08:46, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aksu Dam

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I cannot find enough recent sources to show it notable. There are other rivers with the same name. Chidgk1 (talk) 16:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Çoruh as ATD. Mccapra (talk) 13:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
good idea Chidgk1 (talk) 16:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Epack Prefab

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Epack Prefab

Article about an Indian company which manufactures pre-engineered buildings (PEBs), also known as prefabricated buildings, but does not establish corporate notability. None of the references are significant coverage by independent sources. The references are mostly press releases or paid pieces by the company or interviews with the company, and some of them are about the technology rather than the company.

Reference Number	Reference	Comments	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	livemint.com	A corporate profile	No	Yes	?	No
2	Times of India	An interview with an officer in the course of an article	Yes	No. Passing mention.	No	?
3	news.abplive.com	An interview	No	Yes	?	No
4	businesstoday.in	An interview about how prefab building reduces pollution	No	Not about the company, but about the technology	Yes	No
5	www.tv9hindi.com	An interview about prefab building	No	Not about the company, but about the technology	Yes?	No
6	www.zeebiz.com	An interview about the company	No	Yes	Yes?	No
7	www.etnownews.com	An interview with some promotional content	No	Yes	Yes?	No
8	auto.economictimes.indiatimes.com	A feature story, reads as if it was paid	No	Yes	No. Times of India.	No
9	infra.economictimes.indiatimes.com	Another feature story, may be paid	No	Yes	No. Times of India.	No
10	www.financialexpress.com	Reads like a corporate profile	No	Yes	Yes	No
11	www.adgully.com	An ad in an advertising web site, corporate information	No	Yes	?	No
12	www.constructionworld.in	A press release	No	Yes	?	No
13	www.outlookbusiness.com	An interview about prefab building	No	No. Not about the company, but about the technology	?	No
14	The Hindu	A press release	No	Don't know. Only able to view lead of article due to paywall, but that was enough to see that it is a press release.	Yes	No
15	indianinfrastructure.com	Article about prefab building. Doesn't mention the company.	Yes	No. Not about the company, but about the technology	Yes	No?
16	www.zeebiz.com	An article about prefab building. No mention of company.	Yes	No. Not about the company, but about the technology	Yes?	No
17	www.business-standard.com	A press release about corporate plans.	No	Yes	Yes	No

This article was originally created in article space by a now-blocked promotional editor, and moved back to draft space by the blocking administrator. This article appears to be identical to the draftified article by another editor. There are concerns about covert advertising, but it isn't necessary to know whether there is covert advertising, because there isn't coverage that satisfies corporate notability. The author of this version of the article has now been blocked as a sockpuppet.

The draft can be left standing because drafts are not checked for notability. In view of the history of sockpuppetry and conflict of interest, salting is probably in order in article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Subject lack notability Per WP:Notability_(organizations_and_companies) Tesleemah (talk) 05:40, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I’d like to address Reference Number 5. It was mentioned that this is just an interview about prefab building, but after reviewing it carefully, I see it as an independent article. The article discusses EPACK Prefab’s role in the prefabricated construction sector. In it, the director of EPACK Prefab highlights how prefabrication allows for up to 90% of the work to be completed in a factory, which significantly speeds up the construction process. From my perspective, this is more than an interview—it’s an article that explores prefab construction and specifically references Epack Prefab company's name. Suhailjav (talk) 04:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC) — Suhailjav (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I’d also like to address Reference Number 1. It is mentioned that this is an interview, but after a thorough review, I believe it’s actually an independent article. The article covers the growth of warehousing in Visakhapatnam and includes references to EPACK Prefab’s contributions within this sector. It highlights the company’s involvement in prefab construction for warehousing, showing how our solutions support this expanding industry. From my perspective, this is more than an interview—it’s an article that provides insight into warehousing growth while specifically mentioning EPACK Prefab’s role. Suhailjav (talk) 04:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC) — Suhailjav (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Reference Number 10. It was noted that this reference 'reads like a corporate profile,' but upon reviewing it, I see it as an independent article focused on EPACK Prefab’s #WasteToWorth campaign. The article discusses the company’s sustainability and recycling initiatives rather than promoting its profile. It specifically highlights EPACK Prefab’s efforts to encourage eco-friendly practices within the prefabrication industry. In my view, this piece serves as a report on the campaign and EPACK Prefab’s commitment to sustainable practices, rather than a corporate profile. Suhailjav (talk) 04:50, 7 November 2024 (UTC) — Suhailjav (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This may be eligible for WP:G4 as it closely resembles the page deleted in July following the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EPACK Prefab. Yuvaank (talk) 17:58, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per WP:HEYMANN. The subject certainly meets WP:LISTED, WP:NCORP and Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines with significant coverage in independent reliable sources, including the EPACK Prefab to set up pre-engineered building manufacturing unit in Tirupati district of Andhra Pradesh written by V. Raghavendra from The Hindu which is a reliable source in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#The Hindu, Vishakhapattanam records 265% increase in warehousing] written by Umamaheswara Rao from The Times of India generally count as reliable and Can pre-engineered building construction help reduce air pollution in Delhi? written by Nidhi Singal from Business Today magazine which is also a reliable resource. 2409:40D0:2022:3A4:A8BB:13DD:AC2:204F (talk) 08:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC) — 2409:40D0:2022:3A4:A8BB:13DD:AC2:204F (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 00:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Appealing to WP:HEY makes less than zero sense here. The article is literally the exact same at this time as it was at the time it was nominated for deletion. I would also note that The Times of India is not presumed generally reliable; see WP:TOI. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The subject has received significant coverage in national media. The page appears to have passed WP:NPP. Additionally, it satisfies WP:GNG and meets WP:LISTED.Wasisi Cyclelove (talk) 18:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Resources passes WP:GNG and it also meets WP:LISTED. AmericanY (talk) 06:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Robert McClenon's nomination statement, this fails NCORP and no references have been presented in this debate or in the article that meet this threshold. Red-tailed hawk points out that TOI is not a reliable source for Wikipedia purposes, which refutes the only comment in this debate which attempted to present a refutation to the nomination. I also find the multiple editors with <100 edits in this debate to be quite unusual, and ask the closer place the appropriate weight on their weak and non-P&G-compliant arguments. Daniel (talk) 15:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Robert's source analysis is convincing. Furthermore, the multiple "keep" !voters invoking WP:LISTED are mistaken. The only EPACK company that is publicly listed is EPACK Durable Ltd. (https://epackdurable.com/investor-relations/). EPACK Prefab is a different subsidiary of the EPACK Group (see here: https://www.epack.in/group-overview), which is why we're not seeing the usual WP:SIGCOV in reliable, independent sources that we see for listed firms. The sources here are limited to trivial mentions, trade publications, press releases, other primary sources and other content that falls short of the requirements of WP:NCORP. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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