Talk:sib

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sib

An adjective sense is claimed, citing Spenser, where somebody is "sib to great Orgolio". That's not actually an adjective though. It's like saying "I am brother to Bob". Just a noun. So: cite the adjective if you can; otherwise merge it. Equinox ◑ 18:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Just noting that OED has 4 adjective senses for this term. The term has persisted mainly in Scots (which, as we recall, is not clearly distinguished from Scottish English by OED). There are English uses but all from the last few centuries seem to be either attributive uses of the noun, or adjectival uses in a Scottish context (but still to be treated as English). Some examples of the latter: "too sib" [1] (in the minutes of a meeting of Ayrshire farmers), "more sib to" here. "Sib to" is a common collocation here. This, that and the other (talk) 11:11, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

OK, cited, including the comparative form: I think I've even found enough cites to support two senses, one for literal blood relationship and one for being akin, although the distinction is blurred in several of the cites and I have no objection to merging them back into one sense. - -sche (discuss) 04:38, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Nice job! I tentatively added a (obsolete outside Scotland) label. All quotes are in a Scottish context except Ross (but Innes is a Scottish surname) and Elton (he is talking about "feel[ing] more sib to the Northerners" so technically this is Northern England, but it's pretty close to Scotland...?) This, that and the other (talk) 12:52, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Passed. - -sche (discuss) 07:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC)