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Reference implementation for PEP-788.

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wait_for_thread_shutdown(tstate);

// Wrap up non-daemon native threads
wait_for_native_shutdown(tstate->interp);
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I think this needs to be unified with wait_for_thread_shutdown. Threads created from Python may spawn threads in C and vice versa.

As currently written, I think you can get to wait_for_native_shutdown() and then have a thread spawn a threading.Thread() that's not waited on.

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Yeah, I thought this might be an issue. Especially since there seems to be some inclination for a PyThreadState_GetDaemon function, unifying these seems like a good idea.

My main concern is breakage towards people who are manually using threading._shutdown for whatever reason. We'd have to remove that if we treat threading threads as native threads (or I guess we could have threading._shutdown call wait_for_native_shutdown?).

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PyThreadState *save = _PyThreadState_GET();
if (save != NULL && save->interp == interp) {
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One of the properties of PyGILState_Ensure() was that if you hade code that did something like:

Py_BEGIN_ALLOW_THREADS
...
PyGILState_Ensure();

Then the PyGILState_Ensure() code would reuse the same thread state; it wouldn't create a new one just because the thread state isn't active. The equivalent code with PyThreadState_Ensure() would create a new thread state.

This can come up when you release the GIL and make a possibly long running call into a C library function, which then calls back into Python.

  • I didn't see this in the PEP. I think it's worth mentioning if it's not already there.
  • Creating thread states unnecessarily can be expensive
  • Creating a new thread state means that you have different thread local variables and other weird behavior.

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Ok, we can reuse the gilstate pointer for this case. That has the additional benefit of being compatible with PyGILState_Ensure at the same time. Thanks for bringing this up.

(I'll update the PEP in a big "round 1 comments" PR sometime tomorrow or in the next few days. I want to give people a chance to look at the current draft first, so I can get a good idea of what needs to change.)

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static void
decrement_daemon_count(PyInterpreterState *interp)
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minor, but this decrements the count of non-daemon threads, right? It's not a count of daemon threads.

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Oh yeah, oops.

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