1908 LSU Tigers football team

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1908 LSU Tigers football
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Co-national champion (NCF)
SIAA champion
Conference Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association
1908 record 10–0 (3–0 SIAA)
Head coach Edgar Wingard (2nd year)
Captain Marshall Gandy
Home stadium State Field
Seasons
« 1907 1909 »
1908 SIAA football standings
Conf     Overall
Team W   L   T     W   L   T
LSU + 3 – 0 – 0     10 – 0 – 0
Auburn + 5 – 1 – 0     6 – 1 – 0
Vanderbilt 3 – 0 – 1     7 – 2 – 1
Tennessee 4 – 2 – 0     7 – 2 – 0
Georgia Tech 5 – 3 – 0     6 – 3 – 0
Georgia 3 – 2 – 1     5 – 2 – 1
Alabama 1 – 1 – 1     6 – 1 – 1
Sewanee 1 – 1 – 1     4 – 1 – 3
Ole Miss 1 – 2 – 0     3 – 5 – 0
Mississippi A&M 1 – 3 – 0     3 – 4 – 0
Clemson 1 – 4 – 0     1 – 6 – 0
Texas A&M 0 – 1 – 0     3 – 5 – 0
Dahlonega 0 – 1 – 0     0 – 1 – 0
Memphis U. School 0 – 1 – 0     0 – 1 – 0
Mercer 0 – 3 – 0     3 – 4 – 0
Gordon 0 – 3 – 0     0 – 3 – 0
Nashville   –         –  
  • + – Conference co-champions

The 1908 LSU Tigers football team represented the LSU Tigers of Louisiana State University during the 1908 college football season. Coached by Edgar Wingard, the Tigers played their way to a perfect 10–0 record, outscoring opponents 442 to 11. The team played its home games at State Field and competed as members of the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association (SIAA).

Triple threat Doc Fenton led the nation in points scored. The Tigers have been recognized as a co-national champion by the National Championship Foundation;[1] however, LSU does not officially recognize this season as a national championship season.

The season was clouded by accusations of professionalism from Grantland Rice and rival school Tulane.[2] As a result, many writers did not even recognize LSU's SIAA title.

Before the season

In 1908, football used a one-platoon system, with players featuring on both offense, defense, and special teams. Also, the field was 110 yards in length, touchdowns were 5 points, and field goals earned 4 points.[3] The team that scored a touchdown had the option to kickoff or receive.[3] The ball was also much fatter.[3]

The Tigers lost few players from the 1907 team and prospects were bright.[3] Several members of the team came from Pennsylvania, including Doc Fenton, Mike Lally, John Seip, and coach Edgar Wingard.[4][5] End Rowson "Little" Stovall and center Robert L. "Big" Stovall were brothers.

Lally and Fenton had both previously played for Mansfield Normal School,[2] and Lally was one of the best blockers for Fenton.[3][6] One of Fenton's favorite plays was the "tackle over tackle" play. In this play, Fenton faked a handoff to a back, then gave the ball to a tackle and led the blocking behind the other tackle.[7] “Doc was the hub,” recalled captain and tackle Marshall “Cap” Gandy, “and we were the spokes.”[7] Fenton earned the reputation of doing everything well with a football.[6]

Schedule

Date Time Opponent Site Result Attendance
October 3 Young Men's Gymnastic Club-New Orleans* State Field • Baton Rouge, LA W 41–0   -
October 11 Jackson Barracks-New Orleans* State Field • Baton Rouge, LA W 81–5   1,000
October 17 Texas A&M Pelican Park • New Orleans, LA W 26–0   1,800
October 26 Southwestern Presbyterian* State Field • Baton Rouge, LA W 55–0   1,500
October 31 at Auburn Drill Field • Auburn, AL (Rivalry) W 10–2   -
November 7 Mississippi A&M State Field • Baton Rouge, LA W 50–0   1,500
November 10 Baylor* State Field • Baton Rouge, LA W 89–0   -
November 16 3:30 p. m. Haskell* Pelican Park • New Orleans, LA W 32–0   3,000
November 23 at Louisiana Tech* Ruston, LA W 22–0   -
November 26 at Arkansas* West End Field • Little Rock, AR W 36–4   5,000
*Non-conference game.

[8][9]

Season summary

LSU opened the season with two warm-up games, one against the Young Men's Gymnastic Club and the other Jackson Barracks-New Orleans.[3]

Y. M. G. C.

1 2 Total
YMGC 0 0 0
• LSU 12 29 41

LSU beat Tad Gormley's Young Men's Gymnastic Club, winning 41–0.[3]

The starting lineup was Seip (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Hillman (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Fenton (right end), Gill (quarterback), Stovall (left halfback), C. Smith (right halfback), Lally (fullback).[3]

Jackson Barracks-New Orleans

1 2 Total
Soldiers 0 5 5
• LSU 31 50 81

LSU swamped the Jackson Barracks-New Orleans 81–5. Fenton was switched to quarterback, swapping places at end with Reuben Gill.[3] One account reads "In Lally and Fenton the University has a pair that can hardly be equaled. In the game Fenton showed that he has lost none of his ability to dodge, his swiftness as a runner, his power as a punter and kicker, and his cool hard work. ... The two work splendidly together."[3] The soldiers at Jackson Barracks made the only touchdown scored all season on the Tigers, when their halfback Culligan picked up a fumble and ran it back 105 yards.[3] Captain Gandy once had a 40-yard touchdown, and Lally had one score of 60 yards.[3]

Texas A&M

1 2 Total
Texas A&M 0 0 0
• LSU 15 11 26

The Tigers beat the Texas A&M Aggies 26–0 at Pelican Park in New Orleans in the rain.[10] The Aggies once ran the wrong way.[6]

Rooters at the Texas A&M game.

The first scoring drive was highlighted by a 14-yard pass from Fenton to Little Stovall, and ended with a Stovall touchdown run around left end.[10] On LSU's second scoring drive, Lally had a 25-yard run, and Fenton eventually went around left end for the score.[10] Before the half ended, Fenton kicked a 25-yard field goal from placement.[10]

The next touchdown for the Tigers came on a fumble recovery by Willie Hillman.[10] The final touchdown was the most exciting, as Mike Lally had a 40-yard touchdown run around right end.[10]

The starting lineup was Gill (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), Hillman (center), Thomas (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Stovall (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), B. Smith (fullback).[10]

Southwestern Presbyterian

1 2 Total
SWPU 0 0 0
• LSU 18 37 55

Southwestern Presbyterian (today known as Rhodes College) fell to LSU 55–0. SWPU did not make ten yards all day.[11]

The starting lineup was Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), Hillman (center), Thomas (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Gill (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), B. Smith (fullback).[11]

Auburn

1 2 Total
• LSU 5 5 10
Auburn 2 0 2
  • Location: Drill Field
    Auburn, Alabama
  • Game start: 3:45 pm
  • Game weather: 70°, Fair
  • Referee: James Halligan

Undefeated LSU met undefeated Auburn for the top spot in the SIAA at the Auburn athletic field.[6] LSU won 10–2, the only game it did not win by more than 20 points.[7]

Seip

The first touchdown came on a run from John Seip.[12] Later in the half, Auburn's T. C. Locke blocked an LSU punt which was recovered by Fenton behind his own goal for a safety.[12] According to one source, Fenton was knocked unconscious by a spectator's cane as he tried to get out of the endzone.[7] LSU made the second score using conventional football.[12]

“We won every game that fall except LSU,” Auburn star Walker Reynolds told Clyde Bolton in 1973. “But LSU had a pro team.”[13]

The starting lineup was Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Hillman (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Thomas (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), Tally (left halfback), C. Smith (right halfback), B. Smith (fullback).[12]

Mississippi A&M

1 2 Total
Miss. A&M 0 0 0
• LSU 34 16 50

LSU easily won over the Mississippi Aggies 50–0, using subs by the end of the game.[14]

The first score occurred after five and a half minutes had passed, Clarence Smith going through right tackle.[14] LSU then scored a safety by tackling the Aggies punter.[14] Seip then went around end for another touchdown.[14] On the next drive, Seip went 20 yards on a cross play, Fenton hit Seip with a forward pass for 8 yards, and Bob Smith then scored on a trick play.[14] Clarence Smith then got another touchdown, of 25 yards.[14] The highlight of the game followed as Fenton had a 95-yard kick return for a touchdown.[14]

In the second half, Fenton went 30 yards for another touchdown on a return.[14] Gill went around left end for another touchdown. Fenton went 40 yards for the next touchdown.[14] The last touchdown came from Clarence Smith.[14]

Mike Lally

The starting lineup was Seip (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Hillman (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Pollock (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Stovall (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), B. Smith (fullback).[14]

Baylor

1 2 Total
Baylor 0 0 0
• LSU 33 56 89

The Tigers romped 89–0 over Baylor, the second highest score in school history.[15] The highlight of the contest was Mike Lally's 105-yard return for a touchdown.[16] Pat Ryan also had a 75-yard touchdown run.[16]

After the game, Baylor's coach Enoch J. Mills said "You have, without any doubt, the strongest team in the South by far. The playing of your team here was something wonderful. We were simply badly beaten. You could run up as large a score on Tulane as you did against us without any trouble."[16]

The starting lineup was Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Hillman (right guard), Neblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), I. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), C. Smith (fullback).[16]

Haskell

1 2 Total
Haskell 0 0 0
• LSU 10 22 32

LSU defeated the Haskell Indians 32–0, outweighing the Indians and needing little strategy.[17]

Clarence Smith bucked the line for 15 yards and the first touchdown. Fenton later added a 30-yard field goal.[18]

In the second half, Gandy made a touchdown on the "tackle over tackle" play;[18] and Bob Smith made another. Clarence Smith made his second touchdown of the day around right end. The final score was a 32-yard end run by Mike Lally.[18]

The starting lineup was Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Pollock (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Hillman (right guard), Neblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), B. Smith (fullback).[18]

Louisiana Tech

1 2 Total
• LSU 11 11 22
LII 0 0 0

The Tigers beat the Louisiana Industrial Institute of Ruston 22–0. Fenton was the star of the game, with two interceptions for touchdowns.[19]

The starting lineup was Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Thomas (left guard), Hillman (center), Pollock (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), B. Smith (fullback).[19]

at Arkansas

1 2 Total
• LSU 31 5 36
Arkansas 4 0 4

LSU defeated Arkansas 36–4, with Fenton's runs and kicks featuring throughout.[20] The crowd was then the largest ever to see a football game in Arkansas.[20]

LSU made three touchdowns in the game's first four minutes. On the Tigers' first possession, Fenton went 22 yards around right end and Lally then went 40 yards for a touchdown.[20] On the ensuing Arkansas possession, Fenton intercepted a pass and returned it 45 yards for the score.[20] Big Stovall made the third touchdown on an onside kick from scrimmage.[20] LSU also had touchdowns using a triple pass and a double pass.[20]

Arkansas got its points after a 35-yard pass from a fake field goal led to a field goal from the 30-yard line.[20] Fenton had the lone score of the second half, on a 55-yard run and fake pass.[20]

The starting lineup was Stovall (left end), Gandy (left tackle), Thomas (left guard), R. L. Stovall (center), Hillman (right guard), Noblett (right tackle), Seip (right end), Fenton (quarterback), C. Smith (left halfback), Lally (right halfback), B. Smith (fullback).[20]

Postseason

Doc Fenton in uniform.

Disputed title

The season was clouded by accusations of professionalism from Grantland Rice and rival school Tulane.[2] Amidst fears of many players being ineligible under SIAA rules, most sportswriters instead gave the Southern title to Auburn or Vanderbilt, and left LSU players off their All-Southern team.[21]

Awards and honors

Fans presented coach Wingard and referee James Halligan with gold-handled umbrellas.[22]

Fenton's 125 points (132 by modern rules) led the nation in scoring.[6] He had a school record 36 extra points and 6 field goals.[23][n 1] Fenton, Lally, and Willie Hillman were selected All-Southern by Nash Buckingham in the Memphis Commercial Appeal.[24]

Legacy

The 1908 team is said to be LSU's first great team,[5] and was considered the greatest until 1958.[25]

Fenton and Seip were nominated though not selected for an Associated Press All-Time Southeast 1869–1919 era team.[26] Fenton, Lally, Seip, and Noblett made the first-team of an All-time LSU team selected in 1935.[n 2] According to Tony Barnhart, Fenton is considered the first great football player in LSU history.[28] The National Football Foundation selected Fenton as the retroactive Heisman Trophy winner of 1908.[29]

Personnel

Roster

Roster from Fanbase.com[30] and LSU: The Louisiana Tigers[31]

Scoring leaders

Player Touchdowns Extra points Field goals Safeties Points
Doc Fenton 13 36 6 0 125
Mike Lally 14 7 1 0 81
Clarence Smith 8 0 0 0 40
Bob Smith 7 0 0 0 35
Cap Gandy 6 0 0 0 30
Reuben Gill 4 0 0 0 20
Little Stovall 4 0 0 0 20
Willie Hillman 3 1 0 0 16
Pat Ryan 3 1 0 0 16
Oren Noblett 3 0 0 0 15
John Seip 3 0 0 0 15
Big Stovall 3 0 0 0 15
Unaccounted for v. SWPU 2 0 0 0 10
N/A 0 0 0 2 4
TOTAL 73 45 7 2 442

See also

Notes

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