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Tremarl

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AI doesn't steal from artists. And art is not an original form of expression anyway, its just rehashed ideas with small innovations based on steeped heritage of those before.


Or go and tell me how every anime character is its own completely unique design completely original, without inspiration or technique drawn from those before. 


Artists are just getting mad, because AI will eventually make a large part of the normal workflow for them redundant, as its already doing for UX designers, because that is essentially "busy work".

The answers is to stop pretending that your hobbies or passions can be used as a replacement for a steady job, as for most people it can't.  And hobbies and passions remain for free time, and not their day job. 


Copyright massively hinders creativity and free expression, and people who are against AI are basically just being pro-publisher pro hardcore copyright restrictions, where companies can law fair creators into oblivion. 

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This game is great and also hilarious.



Also got me back into doing some weights, so that's a positive. Lets get yoked!

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Hi Stag

The problem with AI generated content is that it is low effort content and does not showcase your ability nor improve your ability through process learning, that is because AI generated content is not your work, even if it is a model trained on your work. So, it actually misses the point of what the jam is all about, which is improving and showcasing. It is the same reason that AI generated content (prompt based) does not garner copyright attribution regardless of the source material used in its data sets. At best you might claim it created a derivative work based on the prompt itself, but the argument is very poor. 

Non-prompt based AI is mostly QOL stuff, for example smoothing algo, or animation automation (you specify certain frames and in fills in the gaps), and have been long in use for yearas prior to this every becoming a thing.

You don't need artist consent to train an AI off of their work as the AI does not do anything to breach copyright. However, if the AI produces something far too similar to their work that in and of itself could constitute a breach, but this doesn't preclude all AI generated assets from said data training.  So, there is nothing invalid from a creator using prompt based AI.

However, prompt based AI is something I believe does not follow the spirit of the jam. Hence my wish/suggestion that all prompt based AI was banned.

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"AI-generated assets are only allowed if you own the training data. (e.g. Photoshop's content-aware fill, training an entirely separate instance of AI on exclusively your work, using ML to remix art with permission from the artist, etc.) Systems in which the training data is not owned by the dev (ChatGPT, Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, and similar) are not allowed at this time" [From NanoReno page]


An asset - property is anything within the game itself as clarified already by sake. This includes, both physical assets (VA/Art/Code) as well as IP assets (Ideas, style etc).


This is a bit of a quagmire, and I think really the rules should be updated to just ban use of prompt based AI outright.  As the exception is a bit of a grey area. Also when you license the use of an AI, you are potentially also licensing the training data, which is a legal argument I really don't want to talk in detail about as its a waste of time pivoted off of legalese and semantics.