I want to talk about the adrenaline line that Matt acknowledges when Karen asks about her heartbeat. It is obvious that Karen is an adrenaline junkie just like Matt and Frank. She is attracted to both of them for that reason. The difference is that Matt needs her as much as she needs him. Matt needs her to ground him and center him. And Matt is the only man that can give Karen what she needs, that adrenaline without losing her identity. Karen is the only one currently, that allows Matt to be the vigilante and the lawyer, without losing one or the other.
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Closing Time
In the attempt to regain my belief in my own writing, I set myself a challenge to produce something. Anything. In one evening. This is it. Raw and unedited.
If you have time to give me feedback, I would appreciate it (constructive criticism/ suggestions for improvement is welcome - drop me a message if you would like to do it privately).
This is a cyberpunk songfic, inspired by the immortal Leonard Cohen’s Closing Time and by Stephen King’s short story Willa, from his collection Just After Sunset (you are thinking WTF already, right? :) )
It’s Karedevil, of course :)
Rated: Teen and Up
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He drifted through the beat of music, perforated and pulled by it to the synthetic leather of a booth seat. The high dance notes of a fiddle, dragged into this nanoelectronic age from its century-old resting place, were twisted into a merry bow and grafted onto the refraction of an electric guitar. He came from an era when such things were played by rock and roll gods, pouring their creation from his dad’s old record player, but, today, skill was subsidised by the band’s AI, hidden on the belt of the singer. Yet the beat was steady and he felt the taste of whiskey on his tongue.
His hearing was not what it used to be, but he was thankful for the muffling of the notes’ artificial clarity. It gave him the illusion that the people crowding this bar were no different to those he rubbed shoulders with on Saturday nights at Josie’s. The rest of his senses chipped into this fantasy by refusing to sort the scents of alcohol from perfume, ozone from dry ice, combining all into a miasma of bright freefall and life, of his best moments defined.
And so he smiled and waited for his ancient ears to adjust, for his nose to return to its duty. The touch – well, he couldn’t have everything.
The crowd undulated before him, popping and sparking, gradually breaking up into chatting dancing swapping groups. Bodies semi-naked and fur-covered and skin-lit, titanium-lined tattoos and appendages, lips whispering messages into eardrums across the floor that he would not have been able to decipher even in his prime. Yet these artificial receptacles put his accidental ones to shame.
He smelled the acid-laced cider bottles, the coke-lined martini glasses, the smoke of heroin over laudanum cocktails – these scourges of his streets, their teeth pulled and turned to party favours for the young and the lucky, the crooks turning their hands to illicit cybernetics made for legitimate corporations and the Fisks sitting at the tops of their mountains. His unremarkable hearing caught the conversation behind him… ‘How do I tell her I got busted by the Columbia’s CentreNet … ’ … The words twined with voices across from him … ‘year ends, we catch the shuttle up. Just us three and fuck’em all …’
He moved on, looking for other words, other sentences, seeking from habit the plague among this feast. But the crowd revolved, and he lost the trail, if ever he had one, in the swish of the microfibre lamé that should’ve prickled his skin with its evershifting heat, and would’ve made him blush at the smell of sex wafting from beneath.
Johnny Walker in his mouth morphed with his thoughts, and now he tasted skin and silk-smeared sweat and dew, hidden for his tongue to find; a voice rich with God’s promise of bliss eternal humming out his name. His sigh mingled with her laughter as she slid in next to him, and, now, he felt her fingers brushing his temple, smelled the notes of mint and lime and, always, the rich coffee and darker bullets.
“I thought I’d catch you here,” she murmured, fingers still sliding through his hair.
“I am allowed to be predictable. At my age.”
He felt her smile, “Have you found what you were looking for?”
He snorted, “OK, maybe I don’t like being that predictable.”
“You said it. We are too old for bullshit.”
“Touché,” he felt his own grin threatening to spill over his face, “And… no. Nothing that they can’t deal with.”
“They don’t need you anymore,” her hand slotted itself with his and her merriment vibrated through his ephemeral body, joining with his laughter.
“True. Maybe they never did.”
“But you did. You needed them, my love.”
Her head was tilted as she looked at him, hair’s silk brushing her dress’ cotton, her bare arms. The taste of whiskey was back, and, mingled with it, came the taste of Bengal curry and pad thai and homecooked lasagne.
When was it that he stopped wishing that he could see her and became content with all he knew of her?
‘It’s closing time,’ and he no longer needed enhanced hearing to catch her thoughts.
‘The music hasn’t stopped yet. Care to dance, Miss Page?’
And, God, he loved it when she smiled with no restraint of shyness or shame.
“Well, maybe one dance, Mr Murdock,” her voice lilted in-between the musical notes.
“Two. You know what they say. Once for the Devil…”
“… and once for Christ,” she finished for him and then pulled him with her, as she always had, drifting through the crowd in the pump of music, moulding and entwining and swaying with the fiddle, carried by the guitar and the steady remembered beat of their eternal hearts.
Conway’s Daredevil (Vol. 1, #75-76)
A few days ago @daresplaining referenced Gerry Conway’s Daredevil comics run and it reminded me of how much the interpretation of DD has changed almost the second Conway got his hands on the character (much like Miller had done a decade later).
In Lee’s hands, Daredevil was a wise-cracking acrobat, flitting around, making stupid decisions, with an occasional panel for reflection full of self-deprecating humor. In comes Conway and, with ruthless clarity and eloquence, dumps the reader head-first into the murky depths of questionable morality, grief and pain that underlies Matt’s existence.
All of a sudden, Matt is struggling with the philosophical questions of the “greater good” and “what is it to be a hero”, and how many dubious, violent decisions he’s made in the name of these concepts. He is appalled at himself - at how far he had come in the name of Daredevil’s justice: not only has he lost Karen’s love, but he is capable of glibly lying and deliberately causing physical injury to his best friend in order to gain the freedom to put on the suit. But - he is unable to and does not want to stop, and where is the line between a hero and martyr (and a Judas, one has to ask)? While Matt’s Catholicism does not become apparent until much later in the canon, it is clear that he is functioning on faith alone, and the further down this road he goes, the more he expects to lose everything and everyone, except his faith (he hopes; perhaps - he prays).
(From Issue #75)


[Matt thinks: And so it goes, eh, Matthew? Lying to your friends, losing your almost fiance, Karen … and so it goes. Is this what your life of do-gooding has led you to? Deception and… hold it! That’s an archway up ahead … and I don’t need my radar-senses to tell me that ol’ faithful Matthew has found himself what we call a means of escape … and so it goes, deception follows deception, ending in betrayal. I am sorry Mr Nelson, and doesn’t that sound weak? [Shouts] Foggy! Look out… Behind you! [Strikes Foggy when Foggy looks away and runs away to change into his Daredevil suit]
Narration: Each act carries its own weight - weight which is un-heedful of the justification for the deed. As Matt has realised, life soon becomes a juggling of those weights and justifications with the final balance coming out of the sum total benefit for the world, following a lifetime of his making choices! Look at this man and try to understand his sorrow. He can never know if he’s been right in making the choices he has. He can only trust that his goal is a just one. And that, baby, is what makes heroes out of men. It’s also what makes martyrs. Some of us kinda think that the two are the same thing…!]
(And isn’t that Netflix’s Matt Murdock spelled out in a neat print?)
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But philosophy is not all that Conway thrusts on Matt and his unprepared readers, within this short 2-issue arc (#75-#76, 1971). He flips all of Matt’s cheesy humor on its head, turning it from light-hearted gags to infuriate his enemies and distract the reader from any perception of brutality on the pages of a kid-friendly comic - to a defense mechanism for Matt himself, against the physical and emotional consequences of unleashing that brutality. This isn’t a game Matt is playing. He hurts. With every punch and flip, day upon day, the punishment he deals catches up with him and settles into his skin, joints and bones. As the cliche goes, the clown wears a smile to distract his audience from realising that he is weeping - blood as well as tears.
He hurts not just physically, but mentally - from the cost of loneliness and lovelessness and guilt that he carries on this path to justice and glory (for he does not even do himself the favor of hiding behind selflessness). Yet there is a part of him that is sick of the constant fear, the responsibility, the blame that he piles on himself, fairly or not …
Conway stops short of showcasing the rage that is sure to follow, but he set the flight path and Netflix’s Matt simply travels down it.
(From issue #75)

[Matt speaks to himself: Well, Man Without Fear, what’ll you blame it on - iron-poor blood? Maybe old age? After all, Mr Murdock, you are not as young as you used to be. Uh-unh… us costumed types aren’t supposed to get old. Right. I’ll buy that… if you can sell it to my aching back! Stop complaining, DD, you are only doing it to hear someone talk. That’s part of the trouble with this game - the blasted loneliness! You’ve been a towel-shoulder for lots of people in your time, lawyer-man. Who do you turn to? Who can you turn to? You’ve alienated just about everyone who’s ever tried to help you - Karen, Foggy - all of them. Karen wanted you to put aside your clown suit and become a normal man - to stop risking your life and settle into raising a set of kids. But you couldn’t give it up, you had to hurt her by rejecting her plea for sanity - and for what? Why do you do it, glory-seeker? Forget the questioning for now, DD, listen…]
(From issue #76)



[Matt’s musings: What’s the line? “Laugh, clown, laugh..?” The quips come fastest when your are crying inside, don’t they DD? Sure you are heavy with the words Matt, heavy when it doesn’t count! But when it came to telling a girl named Karen Page that you loved her, the tongue just dried up! But - did it happen that way, Murdock - or is it just the way you’d wished it had gone? Wasn’t it Karen who killed your romance? Didn’t she reject you, Matthew? When she learned you were Daredevil and that you wouldn’t give up your life of action - not even for her? That’s why you joke, DD, isn’t it? To hide your feelings… to hide your fear… your fear that, maybe, it’s your fault. Your fault, Man Without Fear! Face it, DD, you are just a bundle of guilt feelings. You feed on self-incrimination. Guilt feelings galore - you are even sorry that you had to knock out Foggy. Sorry regardless of the need for you to get away from him and change to Daredevil. Is there a single thing you don’t condemn yourself for, Matthew? Must you always take the blame?]
Anonymous asked:
I'm not a Karedevil shipper, but I just read your additions to the post about the recent DAW interview and her thoughts about Karen's relationship with Matt and... dang I agree with everything you said. You understand their relationship so well??? all the roadblocks they'd need to get over in a hypothetical 4th season and how they bring out the best in each other, yet I lean toward Kastle even though I know she could never replace maria but karedevil could be so good and cute and- wait a minute

ceterisparibus116 answered:
Hiiiii I’m dumb and lost this in my inbox, like always, and just remembered in the middle of the night last night and…anyway…hi! Thank you so, so much! This whole ask is adorable! In all honesty, I can’t really ship Matt, Karen, or Frank with anyone until they get some good therapy. ;) But in the meantime, I’ve been obsessed with these characters for years now, so I guess I’ll just keep dissecting them on tumblr!

Which is why you keep putting Matt through formal or informal therapy, @ceterisparibus116 🙂
You haven’t tried it with Frank yet though… 🙂
To be fair, the problem with Frank getting any type of lasting therapy is that, if Frank gets significantly down the path of accepting his family’s death as Not His Fault, and, therefore, accepting the extraordinary amount of natural greyness and unfairness within the human condition and circumstance, it would/should make it much harder for him to pull the trigger every time. Which breaks/significantly alters him as the canonical Punisher.
I still think one could keep the essential elements of him being a soldier used to employing lethal force, which makes him more likely to use it that kind of force again, even in “grey” circumstances. And I think he would still be a very cool character. But, from storytelling perspective, it would be very difficult to keep him on that line of mental/ emotional flexibility + still be judge, jury and executioner. You’d have to keep throwing, essentially irredeemable, foes at him to keep the choice to kill simpler.
And, psychologically-speaking, it would be near-impossible for him to build a healthy relationship with anyone while he remains as guilt/trauma-ridden and absolute as he is. And Karen deserves better!!
Matt is a bit less of a lost cause from that perspective. 😀
But, at this point, I am going to take an opportunity to fic rec @lily-ellison ’s solution to the dilemma of how to handle the problem of those three: starts with My Life In Your Hands and continues with the Daylight series.
I c a n t do this alone.
You are not alone. You never were.
Vampire AU? @lily-ellison - Yes please!!!!!!
<<Let’s pray the mask gets his hands on him>> - 1.09 Speak of the Devil
Are you religious, Karen?
My parents were. It’s probably why I’m not. You?
Catholic.
Does it help? With things like this?
Not today.
*deep breath*
um, hi guys, I guess I’m branching into video-making now
I love the staccatto rhythm that is kept in that video. Beautiful work!
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Daredevil (TV)
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Matt Murdock/Karen Page
Characters: Matt Murdock, Karen Page, Franklin “Foggy” Nelson, Jason Ellison
Additional Tags: Post-Season/Series 03, Smut, Jealousy, Office Sex, First Time
Summary:
Matt furrowed his brow, “Who’s….Jason?“
Foggy sighed, “It’s Mitchell Ellison’s nephew. Mitchell set him and Karen up on a date and if it makes you feel any better, you were dead at the time."
"They dated?”
“They had one date or something. Karen didn’t tell me how it went because as it happens, we were a little wrapped up in the whole Fisk getting out of prison thing - anyway, why do you care?”
“I’m just …curious.”
Jealous Matt is jealous. Also horny 😈🥰