yeah most found out the hard way after buying the game again for another $10 im sure, only to find that the "update" was ultra tiny and was gone through in minutes.
with that said i honestly expected incomplete/unseccsesful heist and i am just basing that on content in updates, i honestly believe at this point dev is just stretching and milking for every dime they can get.
What the actual hell. i went to download 7.18 which is newest version and was shocked to see that i have to pay $10 to get it? 7.17 was released 55 days ago for early access. let us subtract 20 days from the 55 being generous and saying the patreons get access 20 days early, that leaves 35 days so it has been ( just based on the 35 days) and 7.18 is available to download but we have to pay $10? seriously? i already bought the game months ago.
no offense, but sorry not buying it again, if i wanted to have my pockets bled dry i would just stick to the nickel and diming of consoles and DLC.
no offense but really doesnt make sense to keep buying the game every update, i mean i couls see if it were a HUGE update with LOTS of content pushing it closer to full completion but i honestly dont see that with the majority of devs pushing small updates and/or updates that are just fixing small things like spelling ( which i honestly i have seem games have no spelling corrections at all and in a couple cases the spelling was WORSE LOL).
ANYway folks the game is good but their is somethign going on with it and/or the dev right now. dont get me wrong i messaged him through patreon and he seemed nice enough, but now with now being blocked on zaniths patreon and how there is no mention of 7.18 update except to downlod and only if you pay $10 ( meaning your previous $10 - $14 payment to download the game was just a waste of your hard earned cash .
with that said my recommentdation si DONT pay the $10 for 7.18, just wait it will either land free or wont but at the end of the day how many times are you going to or be willing to pay for an unfinished game.
i woudl be more willing to pay for a 100% completed game from these devs but constantly paying small amounts over time for unfinished product not so much.
i wrote all this because today i learned something about patreon and devs, these devs are raking in cash by the thoushands every month and the dev apparently can change version number and do nothign else and release it as an update meaning scam. i sent 5 games i got off patreon along with the newest "update" to be checked and all 4 came back the same the "update" was the exact same as previous with only the version number being changed. these 4 titles were reported to patreon along with their dev along with the evidence and thes devs as of earlier this afternoon have been removed from patreon but i digress this is about zanith and a house in the rift.
game is good but more information on updates etc on itch would be nice, also an explaination of the following , version posted is 7.16, version i have is 7.17,r, ( which isnt even shown on itch) current version is 7.18 but stuck behind a $10 pay wall . so first, looks like an update was skipped on itch as 7.17 isnt there. second when will 7.18 be free public? based on the last theing i read about 7.18 release is that it was released 55 days ago to patreaon early access so shouldnt it have hit itch like 30 days ago free public release? if not a clarification would be helpful and in order.
friends, i have to warn you about this dev. he does not fulfill his pledges on patreon.
i use to pledge to zanith house in the rift. paid lowest tier that offered 2 week early access . next thing i know i dont get the early acces to the update only to find dev changed the tier after my pareon sub trying to force me into paying an extra $20 a month. now that didnt bother me i contacted the dev through patreon and cancelled my patronage and the dev agreed and although not really necesary refunded the previous months pledge.
the above happened several months ago back in 2024 to be a little more specific.
fast forward today,
i went to look at zaniths patreon and guess what i found.
Apparently zanith has blocked me from their patreon page. yep all of a sudden, MONTHS later zanith has blocked me on patreon.
so this is some friendly advice, folks be cautious of devs on patreon, they may seem like nice folks when you talk to them through messages but they are really quick to turn on you apparently.
here is a list of things you clearly cannot do to a dev, question issues with tier rewards on patreon, ask, request, or comment on updcoming updates/late updates, lastly i have to inform you all that house in the rift version i downloaded here and am running is 7.17.r while the one here for download is now beign shown as 7.16 i have no clue but it appears there is somethign shady going on with house in the rift updates and downloads. just pointing this out in advance in case.
well it was good forwhat it was but not enough content. majority is behind work in progress wall. second there is what i can only describe as a bug. when you take the class in the gym it does NOT reward STR, nope. it rewards charisma, so i ended up with 1 str, 13 int, and 13 chr. only "sex" scenes require you to get lucky to pick the lock on lias door in the morning when she is in her room. spoilers 1st is at 0 AP on her stomach come outside, second 125 AP same as before but you now get given a choice of inside or outside.
with that said, to the dev. is it to much to ask you focus and finish 1 of your projects before starting another? you have 3 currently none complete.
i recommend yo stop work on the taco verse all together seeing as it is for those that just want to click quick to get to teh sex scene at teh end.
focus big long complex, graphics are better, feels more gamelike, id prefer you to finish gig long complex before working on small complex again but that is my opinion, i got bored playing small complex after a day whereas i just completed current content for big long complex (3.1b on pc by the way) and got "cockblocked" by lack of content to continue LOL. some other input for dev, the random chat choices need to be a little less random IMHO imagine chatting with a girl for 1 in game week getting nothing but x in your choices, tehn of course there is the state classes, fix str stat in gym ( it gives charisma not str), and give a hint for the word, as of now all you can do is guess the first word and go from there, i actually got LUCKY once in the library and got the word right first time for 3 points but most of the time i end up with 2 points.
as for people looking at this and hopefully read the comments before downloading, i recommend waiting for a substantial content update before downloading. you will just start getting into it only to realise only 1 girl ( lia) has any kind of real progress rest is just tease. working in game is boring, tedious, and repetitious but must be done to take classes and buy hairpins to pick locks but with no real rewards per sey it just gets boring and tedious.
well im on 3.1 update and there are no new dishes, no gigi and her daughters ( or did you mean mari/mom?). hell no way to get shovel, trust building is slow as hell on jay only "task" raises trust and then 4 points , similar issue with carpenter girl only using beer, as far as the girl on the far in the am lust is easy but nothing apparent for raising trust as such her trust bar is empty.
to be fair im finding more problems with the game overall than anything. it has a lot of repetition, alot of stuff i am stumbling on ( including the "follow" command you spoke of being "work in progress" so follow command comes up sure but it apparently has NOT been implemented. right right now only 2 girls in game are of any playable state which is girl on farm and jay, mari/mom you can spank but that seems to be it with her, one of mari/moms daughters you can peek on but again thats it as far as i have been able to get.
what it boils down to is a barely playable demo with lots of repetative grinding
one more thing i need to point out that makes no sense is the fact that it looks like 2d paper mario but you have to run high graphics settings which lets be honest with the look there should not be a need to high graphics settings with SM, any gtx 1080/equivelant, or higher gpu should run it just fine but nope, still requires forcing high graphics settings. there are other games that have better graphics and look more like realistic people that do not even require high graphics settings to work, but my point here is if you dont have dedicated graphics card you will be in trouble and you cant skimp on gpu either example works great on 1070/1080 but wont run with 1050, works fine with 2070, 2080, 2080 super, and 2080TI but not lower 20 series, as far as newer gpu cant speak truthfully after getting out of pc building during the gpu price gouging during the 10 series cards ( yeah only an idiot would take the new norm gpu makers followed after the price gouging from gpu crypto miners).
stuttering makes it unplayable. i dont know why i dont see any other reports of how stuttery the game is, i am sure it is NOT my hardware considering everythign else runs flawlessly. only difference is this is bakin player game none of my other stuff is bakin. so, is there an actual fix or is this just one of those i should delete and forget about.
i think you dont unnderstand the reasoning for my question so let me rephrase and clarify my question.
how long is the timeframe between updates? after 2 years of nothing it appears to be yet another in a long list of abandon projects by devs.
hope that makes the query simpler, i understand things take time but i have to wonder how many of these devs are just milking patreon supporters for cash and only giving a tease update with ridiculously long time between these tease updates.
does that simplify and clarify things for you? i for one was a patreon of evermore but realised i was paying the dev and was basically gettin fleeced and i pulled my patreon support. last info update was it would return on new platform but that was a long time ago, shame to because i was into evermore and disappointed it left on a cliffhanger.
ok so "collapse is NOT giving the new event reward yet? is this correct? i was wonsering because i just finished it gave the guy his donuts but did not get the reward "new event". also built the love nest and pool but no idea how to actually make use of them or is this also in next update? if they are available after being finished how do they get accessed? only thing you can do in core room is transform them or create new room and they do not show up in the regular house room selection area ( would be better if the pool and love nest were added to the sameplace you select what room you want to visit in the house.
im stuck on the war within, hint is complete war within and meet girls in living room at night however, under the war within quest the first thing to do is meet the girls in the living room which never appear in living roon regardlees of day or time of day, any help would be appreciated.
im also stuck on jins line see byond portal get her out of office one.
i have tried setting quest priority but i dont know if it is taking or not because nothgin changes and quests dont trigger to advance..
i already dumped it, along with several others and pulled my support from ALL devs. some devs are better than others but with how much they are taking in from patreon and other places i expect better and faster updates. furthermore in case no one else noticed evermores dev is still acepting monetary support for evermore even though he has made NO progress on it in a LONG time. if you are supporting him monentarily i recommend you cease doing so because at this point itlooks like he is just scamming you out of your hard earned cash.
update got some of the quests previously mentioned done, however i still have issues with others and there are no walkthroughs online it seems or tips of any kind either. so in the course of trying to figure out previous quest issues i unlocked and finished syxias current .92 line, but i still have teh following quest problems and need help.
1. jin locking oneself in get her out of her office ( i have tried morning, noon, and night on EVERY day and still no progress.
2. taile progression locked behind controlling your feelings (which i havent even got yet so no biggie on this one yet)
3. the war within apparently the first thign is meet girls in living room yet no matter what day or time the girls never appear in the living room ( locked behind another quest i havent got yet perhaps?
so HELP!
im stumped here and online walkthroughs are useless at best so if anyone has a good step by step walkthrough for .92 id appreciate it, currently stuck on several quests and have not been able to get them to trigger quests are tsukiko look for clues/give carrot, jin mainstreet at noon, hell in living room whats she up to, sheila back in town check out mainstreet, cleos introduce zariah in meeting room, asmedia is going around city whats she doing, estia looks gloomy cheer her up in living room, the war within girls dealing with what happened in living room go. not matter what day or time i have tried i cannot get none of them to trigger. also stuck on neon but this is because i cannot even get to the prerquisite controlling your feelings as im still at war within. someone help im starting to go mad LOL.
yeah i no longer care personally. i already deleted the game due to it clearly being abandoned. i only have one other game on my system that is being claimed as abandon which is corrupted kingdoms. im hoping the dev will hand it off to another person so it can be completed, another one is evermore id also like to see this one completed as well but alas it to is clearly abandon due to the dev starting another projet in the form of eternum
yes i have seeen vaporware, ransomware, AND malware on patreon as well as a worms and (trojans which is funny with the VN's i was downloading and supporting LOL). however i have seen NONE on itch so your claim is baseless and false from my personal experience with the itch platform. i would recommend you NOT make posts spreading lies or at least present proof of your claim when you make such posts or at the very least present your evidence to the platform as i did to patreon.
but your argument isnt 100% accurate, there is just as much of this stuff as well as other BS on patreon. i personally have had far better luck on itch than patreon, in fact i have had such horrendous experiences from devs i have supported on patreon that i cancelled all support and will no longer supprt the devs there, i was just throwing money away supporting devs who ghost projects and putting out updates that wee basically just a file name change as no real improvements or content was added.
better than patreon thats for sure. devs on patreon have a tendancy to abandon games but keep charging supporters. they also want to push you to third party sites for update information only they ignore them completely. to be honest alot of these gave devs are just scammers. i mean an update should contain new content especially if it is a 6 month plus wait but alot of these devs push an update with no new content just say they changed this or that which most of the time is crap that most have already played through or dont care about ( grammar and spelling come to mind).
in fact this is STILL up have a good read "
3 Months ago: This will not be the end of Evermore. I still fully intend to see the story through to the end because of how much I love it, though it’ll likely be in a different medium.
I'll announce more when there is more to discuss, but I've started working on it.
Free public patreon post: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ill-reveal-more-112075544 "
the post is dated sept 14 2024. by the way. fact is dev has 2 projects at least and dev is ignoring this one to push the other while taking patreon ( and other) support moneys for BOTH of the projects.
at some point you have to admit when devs are playing you and only care about the money they are raking in via patreon.
when i downloaded it there was NOTHING, and i repeat NOTHING from dev saying it was dead on the contrary quite the opposite. regardless. with that said, this is one of the reasons i stopped all monentary support to devs.
so many devs abandoning games, long time between updates ( only for the update to contain little to no new content just correction which i dont even notice outside of some spelling and grammar which i care less about if im being honest as long as i can follow the story).
what im saying is, if a dev wants monentary support they need to finish projects, they start, add content with their updates ( i doubt anyone really cares about spelling and grammar mistakes as much as the devs updates seem to suggest).
its even worse when the dev has multiple projects and doesnt seem to be updateing or completing any of them. evermore felt like it was at a halfway point to me and left on a cliffhanger of sorts.
my suggestion for anyone that is supporting these devs monentarily if they abandon the projuct you are paying to support:
1. keep track of money given from first day
2. if dev abandons project request full refund of everythign paid to the dev ( not completing a project but taking money for said project is the same as stealing your money as the dev scammed you by making a promise of product and not delivering). side note, if dev is not in the same country as the person paying the support it becomes an international crime with stiffer penalties. i am aware of one such case where a "dev" was sued for the reason we are discussing here and since the dev was in asia somewhere and the person making the suit was in north america somewhere it was deemed to be international fraud. long story short "dev" had to repay ever dime back to those that supported, he spent time in jail, and was banned from patreon. this incident happened a few years ago.
anyway hope at some point dev finishes evermore it was good till the dev cockblocked at the halfway point.
loaded question as i am not the dev of corrupted kingdoms and with that said when you search you search corrupted kingdoms online it brings up 2 seperate games with same name ( there are others like this as well not just CK) but also the one being discussed being listed online with 2 different dev names ( same exact game but one has one username and the other another username). if its abandon fine the dev just needs to delete it from places like twitch informing the community it is no more otherwise we end up sitting here with our thumbs up our collected rears waiting getting more and more agitated. i myself have almost lost interest in CK at this point but am playing other stuff in the time being but im seeing a pattern of behavior from the devs that is honestly NOT good. got one game that just got an update after a year and it was a pathetic update to be sure 10 minutes extra gameplay. i mean seriously started in 2000 nas had 2 updates in all that time ( not talking about CK tight noe BTW) and hardly any new content to it? really? what was teh dev doing exactly i wonder, was grammar and spelling so atrociouos it took forever to fix it?
furthermore it appears i wasted 48 hours of my life going through this from start to finish only to find the dev wasnt going to finish it. again avoid anything this dev has put out, that way you wont risk with an abandon project. i honestly dont believe it will come back at this point new media or not and if it did it would probably require starting over because game saves dont work. on the other hand if evermore does pop up again it had better be with a ahit ton of new content to play almost to the point of completion and the ability to have every girl in the harem and ability to knock them ALL up baby bumps birth and all. tired of these devs doing this shit to be honest long 3 months plus wait times between updates only to get an update that is maybe 10 minutes of gamplay and little to know information outside of paying the dev $30+ a month patreon. kinda wonder how many that paid this dev on patreon for evermore at this moment.
just saw your message while i was looking for for yet another game. due to rest already being completed in their current game versions in 48 hours or less .
im not a game dev myself, im sure my hardware which an old 1st gen threadripper system i donty have the skills or patience LOL. but yes over the last 2 years i have downloaded over 50 games and none of them were actually completed, one game i downloaded had its last "update" over 5 years ago. there are games right now i kept on my pc in hopes there would be an update for as i was actually really into them having good stories but also gave the impression that you were actually playing a game than just reading a novel and getting the random "choice" to make. good examples of games would be a house in the rift(AHITR), dogma, corrupted world, corrupted kingdom, evermore by prometheus, the wrath, companion of darkness, oppai oddysey, ripples , eternum, mythic manor, harem hotel, my new family, halfway house, virtues, and phoenixes. all good games, none actually completed, although out of all of them very few have had a recent update or lets just say that i havent been able to find any online.
it is also important to note that some devs are removing their games from specific platforms forcing persons into others, as an example one dev removed his game from itch and redirected to patreon and discord. i didnt think much of it until i realised that after this updates and information got scarce on the devs game not much was being released on discord in terms of updates, statuses, etc. practically forcing you to patreon which was no good because all the devs posts were locked behind a subscriber pay wall and in my unlucky example only the highest tier patreon support for the dev would open up info to updates etc ( sorry but $50 a month was way to much for that in my honest opinion).
with that said ripples and ahtir did get updates recently but it didnt really seem like it gave alot of content.
my thought isnt merely shove updates out the door, no, no, no. far from it.
let me put it this way look at me like more of an advisor of what most people downloading these games want.
1. free ( this is counterproductive to devs but this is easily remedied by giving paying supporters the newest update up to 2 weeks earlier than free and im all for that).
2. regular updaes, now this is where problems happen. everyone wants updates out fast and regularly hoever, this is unrealistic as it also leads to disgruntled individuals. go fo a BALANCED approach. what do i mean by balanced, quite simple really rushing an update every week is stupid in my opinion sure it would be nice but what can a dev really do in a week? not much just small things basically making correction such as fixing typos. i personally believe an update should focus mainly on a large content update while fixing some of the previous issues ( such as the afor mentioned typos). furthermore, keeping people in the loop via social media set a goal for the release of your update what you plan to have in that update inform the people on social media regardless of platform ( dont limit to discord and patreon ( try also spreading on facebook, x, etc. give paying supporters early access to updates. you could also offer a few non paying supporters early update access to help you keep community updated through social media you dont use and this also would help the dev give more focus on making games and updates rather than using time to make announcements. basically i think large content updates are better than small fix updates personally and i also think 1 to 6 month intervals is acceptable for such updates ( but again im no dev and have no idea how long it takes but again im advising from the perspective of most people playing these games not just the small niche paying people).
3. dont disappoint community, yes things happen we know life happens however some of the excuses i have seen is just ridiculous, one dev used fried pc. ok fair enough but i see an issue personally if i were a dev i would have a backup pc sitting around and all my software and game data, etc saved on an external drive. the backup pc would not be connected or plugged in except to update its operating system and antivurus otherwise it would not be connected to power or internet alleviating lightning strike issues leaving only natural disasters ( fire, flood, tornado, etc.) as a legit reason. if your update will be late no problem inform the community , lastly dont restrict information regarding updates or issues behind paywalls.
4. make updates so that when you download it you can extract over the old file withought having to just create a new folder for the update. dont release an update that makes your previous save files useless forcing a complete replay, i can tell you i personally coulnt tell you how peeved i would be spending 48 hours of gameplay only to get an update that wouldnt let me open my save game to continue ( been there once or twice already and those games are no longer installed on my system but it wasnt just that, there was also issues with inconsistant, long, update intervals with little content update ( to be honest it looked like the dev just gave teh file a new update number adding maybe 10 minutes worth of new gameplay content).
5. focus on 1 game at a time ( this is the most important) a lot of devs are making things more difficult on themselves working o multiple games at teh same time this causes delay and other issues it aslo tends to all their games being similar in nature to cut corners and save time. there are already a bunch of devs on patreon that have games with storylines so close you could almost say they were plagureising someone else but when a dev is does this it shows lazyness. focus on one game, you can make that 1 game better and actually get a completed version out faster, then move onto the next game its that simple. if you have an idea for your next game write it down, jot notes but do not start working on it if you already have a project started believe me. although there is 1 dev out there with 2 games he is working on at teh same time both are extremely slow on updates and content sometime one even gets ignored for teh sake of the other.
6. dotn give up, you cant please everyone thts just a fact. what you can do is just do your best, focus, and keep community informed.
lastly, it seems to me that what happens with the devs is once they stop getting cash supporters or the cash flow slows down from patreon they blow off their work or just abandon it. what the devs are probably not realizing is that they might be losing support due to one of if not more of the reasons i mentioned above. if you are paying monthly to supprt a dev and lets say you are giving $25 a month and you dont see an update for a year ( 12 months) that would mean you have spent $300 and that is NOT including any of patreons currency conversion fees from USD to other countries currency) that same $300 would get you some completed commercial PC games and DLC for them . even only pledging $5 a month comes out to $60 which would buy you a commercial pc or console game that would be complete at least. now dont get me wrong independant devs are different from commercial devs in terms of manpower and resources true however, you also have to consider the idependant dev is not hiring hundreds or thousands of people, not paying for advertising, etc. at most teh dev is paying for electricity and internet in regards to their work as im sure they are workign out of their homes. meanind the devs are raking in bank.
devs also need to remember to keep promises, there are stories all over online of people supporting a dev some even for years only for the dev to abandon a game they were supporting without word and some of them were still paying and waiting for an update ( cant you guess how those people felt when they found out they were paying for nothing? )
finish the game even if you lose support you dont have to draw it out just basically finish the story if it is a nsfw adult harem game just do a quick story that gets all the girls in the harem with the mc and have one harem orgy as the finaly, then move onto the next. people who pledge and get let down are the ones that will not support you in the future and may cause you some issues with new supporters with their comments in the community. one more thing i just remembered, keep an eye open on your sponsorship levels on patreon, i started supporting a dev to get the recent update and after i did i couldnt download the update to his game getting a message i have to spend $30 a month for that but that was not stated, even checking the tiers he had showed the $5 tier of his offered early updates ( well after i messaged him about it he changed his tiers to exclude the $5 but i since have cancelled supporting that dev, shall not support him in the future, and have deleted all of his works from my pc.
glad to answer any questions you might have here or you can reach out to me on facebook messenger Fabian Noggle if yo find fabian noggle and his icon is a skull with bat wings you got the right one LOL.
is this dead? havent had an update since 22.3d several months ago. web searches only bring up the weekly update with 22.3d download. just wondering because alot of these "games" devs seem to be slacking, so much so that i cancelled every patreon i was supporting. one game i spent hundreds of dollars supporting with nothing new to show for it which i deleted after cancelling support. looking back i could have bought a PS5 and several games + DLC for what i spent on 3 patreon devs. moreover it seems like the games i like the most are the ones with the slow or no updates which is sad when i can download them and complete them in their entirity in thier current release in 48 hours or less.
wasnt actually suggesting you were like a lot of other develpoers bud just typing thoughts in my head. i get the beta paywall qnd i even get some devs wanting to put early access behind paywalls but some of these developers are taking advantage of it, i actually WAS a supporter for one dev to get early access to updates or rather i signed up for it, after i paid for the first month i went to download the new release early only to get a pop up message stating i needed to pay more ( sorry wasnt going to bump my tier up from $30 to $50) so i cancelled and after recent issues i dont tend to monentarily support any dev ( no offense and not your fault just letting you know).
anyway, my biggest peeve is games been out for years and still not complete and end in a cliffhanger spot ( like tales of unity did LOL) and it gets frustrating, hell i have roughly 20 of such games on my 1TB game drive taking up space that are inclomplete and finished through current versions and only 2 have seen an update in the past 6-8 months.
i understand things take time and i appreciate devs work because although my first gen threadripper pc could do it i personally dont have the knowledge to create and i definatley dont have time to comprehend blender ( i tried with 3d print files once but lets just say when you open a file and there is no visual image in the software its rther hard to modify it LOL).
not following there stronk, im replying to your comment from 5 months ago ( which was october by the way) as it i scurrently end of february with march being only a cople days away. with that said when will we get .12? better yet with the time it seems to be taking are you making a big .12 update or are you throwing 2 updates into one.
no offense but i seeing a LOT of devs dragging their feet. some devs that were putting out updates every couple of weeks have started doing less while asking for more monetary support, some have even started bait and switch tactics with their support levels where you sign up pay and when you go to download the recent update early you get slapped with a notice you have to pay more.
it honestly feels like a lot of devs are dragging updates to get more money on patreon, etc. please tell me you are not one of those type of douchnozzles.
ok laundromat is only open at might, it is the back alley (also the entrance to parthenan club). key is actually found on the bench in the laundromat, this key is the key to the tent next to the caave on the beach. hope this helps, im personally looking for info o leveling up repair skill but coming up with squat along with doing laundry in the manor which searches for that are also coming up with bupkiss.
i read that to but at the same time, with the money im sure they took in from patreon, etc. i do not see how he could not have built a new pc in a short amount of time. back in 2017 i save for 3 months and built a threadripper pc with an rtx 2080 super water cooled and i live on va disability, im not getting income from patreon like the creator is.
there are several games i have id like to see big updates for including evermore, the wrath, ripple, dogma, corrupted world, corrupted kingdom, siccae, companion, endowed, and realm invader to name a few. but nothing since ( sept-dec 2023-2024)
