Broichmore

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Nomen ad hoc (talk) 16:54, 7 September 2019 (UTC).

Royal Navy ships

Hello, this is regarding your request on Mike Peel's talk page regarding the import of information for Royal Navy Ships. As stated by Mike Peel, I will be looking into it. :)
I was confused about the property IDs that I needed to assign to the dates like launch, commission and order dates - I could not find appropriate properties in the list of properties - I wonder if the usage of inception (P571) and service entry (P729) would be fine. As an alternative, I found Wikidata items of ship commissioning (Q14475832) and ship launching (Q596643) which can be added as qualifiers to key event (ships) (Q14904124) - but I am not sure how to add them as qualifiers, if I were to (for example, to which value should these be added to as qualifiers). Do you happen to have any ideas or suggestions about this? Nirali Sahoo (talk) 11:14, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Nirali Sahoo, Nirali Sahoo: Hi Nirali, There was a discussion here here on the subject. This may give some guidance. Regardless of what was said there, about many wiki projects, only English Wikipedia matters. It follows the National Maritime Museum and other influential government bodies/sources that lay down the standards. We should derive our data from English Wikipedia infoboxes, and adopt the nomenclature it uses.

The key dates are:

Laid Down (this is the same as Keel laid)

Launched

Commissioned. This is the date Wikidata calls Service entry.

In fact these titles could be (should be) named: Laid Down (ship); Launched (ship); Commissioned (ship). These are the three we want.

"Ceremonial ship launching" should be renamed in wikidata to Launched (ship); a ship can only be launched once. It's a fixed date. This is what some commons people don't get. This is the only defined date in shipping, all these other key events actually cover spans of time. The dates in Wikipedia are completion dates for these events. That's what we should use the completion dates.

ship commissioning (Q14475832) is interesting. Commissioning seldom takes a day, it can take weeks. Ignore this. Far better to follow Wikipedia and use commissioned meaning the day that commissioning was completed.

Yes. they are all key events key event (ships) (Q14904124)

Wikipedia infoboxes are I think standardised, so no problem there...

Hope this helps... Broichmore (talk) 12:16, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

• Hello, I am sorry for the delayed response and thank you for your explanation - It was really helpful! I ran a test run on INS Kochi. The script mostly focuses on importing image (P18), named after (P138), manufacturer (P176), country of registry (P8047), and order (Q566889), keel laying (Q14592615), ship launching (Q596643), ship commissioning (Q14475832) as values for significant event (P793).

Does this seem okay or do you have any suggestions? Nirali Sahoo (talk) 16:20, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Nirali Sahoo, Nirali Sahoo:

Hi Nirali, Looks good!

I would also like to see some information that would help with identifying unknown ships. See commons:Category:Unidentified ships for example the number(s) of masts and funnels. See commons:Category:Ships by number of masts and commons:Category:Ships by number of funnels. Not sure if that can be picked up in an info box. Possibly? They do appear in commons as categories.

See commons:Category:Fully rigged ships

On topic of infoboxes

en:HMS Foudroyant (1798) and en:Cutty Sark have a number of interesting characteristics: class and type, Tons Burthen, tonnage Displacement these are 4 important ones. Possibly lesser importance are the general characteristics. Broichmore (talk) 16:57, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Broichmore: Okay sure! I will look into it. It will be my first time working with Commons so I may need some time exploring things but I will notify you regarding any important updates. :) Nirali Sahoo (talk) 17:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Nirali Sahoo, Nirali Sahoo: Thanks.

Just noticed that Wikipedia has categories too... Examples en:Category:Five-masted ships and en:Category:Four funnel liners. Broichmore (talk) 18:46, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Broichmore: Thank you! Will check them out as well. Nirali Sahoo (talk) 19:41, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Nirali Sahoo, Nirali Sahoo: Hi, Just some after thoughts.

The prime source of harvestable data is the Wikipedia infobox.

There are two places the numbers of masts can be found. en:Category:Five-masted ships and commons:Category:Five-masted ships. You'll notice they are different. Aside from human error or omission, commons has a larger set of ships. Is it possible to harvest both? I would look to Wikipedia first.

No doubt you are aware that ships can change their names, and that event comes with a date.

A ships lifespan starts when the keel is laid, and ends with its scrapping, or sinking. Sunk boas can be refloated and scrapped later.

All modern ships have a unique en:IMO number. Broichmore (talk) 09:33, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

biographical article

A biographical article is not a person. You should create a new item for the person described, and link it from the biographical article item using main subject (P921).--GZWDer (talk) 16:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

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